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Originally posted by BeyondBelow
reply to post by NovusInvictus
wow you are about as close to reality as as I am to the sun. Portugese descent is white???? are you smokin??? spanish/ dude as in the people that colonized and interbred with the brazilian population. Not white. If the were cucasian descent they would be white. Think before you puke out totally idiocy on here please. And don't insult the board and then make an arse of yourself.
Originally posted by TSOM87
Well next time when theres an international incident and the majority happen to be black, Gay or Woman, lets see if anyone singles them out!
Originally posted by sadisticwoman
reply to post by Snooze
In the same way that he's relying on our failures to boost himself, you are relying on our successes to ignore everything we've done wrong. So what if we've invented things? So have black people, but you don't see them saying that whenever someone blames them for something.
Arguing that we're not at fault just because we've done some things wrong is not a very good argument at all.
Originally posted by Tunez
reply to post by poet1b
Im sorry poet. But you have greatly been mislead by our western propaganda. I agree that what the Brazilian president said is racist, and those racist attitudes have no place in the world all good people are striving to achieve on this earth.
But you need to understand the backdrop of the world we live in today and recent history, which you will find at the top of every hypothetical pyramid of wealth, power and knowledge, you will find a white man, or a group of white men, or white men in majority. This advantage was obtained from advances made in Europe in all fields of human endevour from the end of the medieval period and onwards (please correct me if my histocal recollection is inaccurrate slighty), though most or some of these advancements were built upon knowledge, technology, etc obtained from sources from the muslim world and the far east. This advantage was maintained and vastly improved during the colonial period through the subjugation and exploitation of native people of around the world and their resources in their lands by European powers. Im sorry for the unnecessary history lesson but it is needed to argue my point. Today, well i hope today, most people agree that what happen was wrong, and today we should know better. But there are those who have access to the wealth, power and knowledge denied to the masses, who want to keep the "status quo", with a imperlistic manner who propagate the theory, the idea, the reality that human beings, nature, this earth is expendable in pursuit of their goals, whether it be wealth, power, or something more sinister (according to some conspiracy theories). What the Brazilian president I think (in my opinion, though I could be giving him more credit than due) is trying to get at in a roundabout way (very very poorly) that the "status quo" are still continuing an imperial belief where subversive tools of control are employed e.g. economic, political, etc, though old fashioned smash and grab is acceptable (though domestic popluations need "thought adjustment" through propaganda overdrive) e.g. Iraq (Weapons of Mass Destruction???). The ordinary people of the West have good intentions (as do 99.5% of the worlds population) displayed by selfless giving to charities. But i believe peoples (the west mainly) all over the world are awakening to wrongs being persuaded and encouraged by this "status quo" disguised in layers of propaganda on their TV's, radio's and newspapers of their domestic populations.
A fine example of this continuing imperialism is given in the documentary "The War On Democracy".
Im sorry for the length of this post, its just I got very angry, no sorry, wrong word, saddened with the ignorance laced in poet's post, that 3rd world countries are poor due entirely to corruption in their countries, yes there is corruption, inspired and nutured from the corruption that prevail in more "civilised" nations.
I hope I can be forgiven and unedited if this is a poor, or nescient post, as it is my first post.
I know we cant change history (or can they??? :@@ and I give my ancestors the benefit of doubt of not knowing better, though some would disagree with that statement. We should seek to find and understand the truth in history, indeed of all aspects of the realities in this life (and beyond). But what is vital to us alive this present day is now, and what we do now to shape our future, cause we are all connected and "in it" together on this small blue beautiful planet soaring through this amazing universe.
This post of course , is just my opinion, but I believe I have offered more truth than you find in a statement from 70% (probably too generous :@@ of politicans in power. What I ask, is fine, if dont believe me, debunk me, but find the information for yourself, learn how to think for yourself, empower yourself.
Love, Peace & Truth to you all.
Originally posted by Roufas
I also fail to see any black man owning an international bank now , I wonder why?
Originally posted by Caminhando
Well, according to the article in Globo (Brazil's biggest news agency), government sources have said that even though Brown was put off by the remark, it was, nevertheless, for "domestic consumption." I would tend to agree in that it was made by the Brazilian president, in the Brazilian Capital. As a previous poster did mention, Latin America is more overtly racist in that people are categorized into levels of skin shade more so than in the US (where are black/white/hispanic/asian/jewish paradigm is less concrete, but more cultural).
In truth, having lived in Brazil, I will say that some regions are considered popularly more racist than others. However, I would say that general misconceptions about race are based on socioeconomic situations of various groups. For starters, let's remember that slavery ended a good 20 years after the US. However, despite the difference in time, in Brazil there is MUCH less taboo in marrying outside of your "race". Multiethnic children are very common in Brazil.
So, again, citing what a previous poster mentioned about higher racism in Latin America, I will say that it is more complex than just simply that. So, when Lula said, it's "white people with blue eyes", he was not (simply / necessarily) referring to the high-prowess economies in the US and Europe, but rather the movers and shakers in Brazil's upperclass elite - mostly to be found in Sao Paulo. Sao Paulo's business community is highly disproportionate when it comes to representing Brazil's ethnic diversity as many of them are "white". So even when you take any northern hemisphere's nations out of the loop, it still hits close to home for those Brazilians who are still living in squalor, poverty and surrounded by crime, and who often are not "white with blue eyes."
I don't think you can contextualize this without being in Brazil and hearing it. That being said, it probably is not the best way to go about saying it. It would have been better to say, it is a class issue...but in the end, if it's true, but uncomfortable, it's still true.
Originally posted by mopusvindictus
Why is it always the nations including mine (usa) that worry about the economy are the same ones that can in reality only suffer on paper?
Originally posted by HolydarknessVA
I just think this story is completely ridiculous.
Of all of the past (and present) presidents of the United States, only five have had brown eyes. The rest have all had blue eyes, or some close variation of blue. Washington - blue eyes. Lincoln - blue eyes. Reagan, Clinton, both Bushes - blue eyes.