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Is skipping school a simple sign that kids are rejecting public shool programming?

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posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 06:53 PM
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No, I wouldn't consider it senioritis,

I'd be doing my work right now but I'm no longer want to support this system. I never planned to go to college.

If it wasn't for all this NWO bs that's going on I'd go ahead and get my diploma with out thinking about it. I'd already have plans and I could be rich enough to support a large family without any kind of education proof because I'd be inheriting two farms.. But I'm forfeiting it all and I'm going to separate myself from this system.

[edit on 26-3-2009 by Scarcer]




posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 06:55 PM
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I don't really agree with the point here, but I can agree with the fact that kids are not getting a good education. Having been a recent teenager myself, only having graduated recently, I can share some common aspects.

First, I realized when I got, "the truth" and that the world was a giant toliet, I wanted to drop out for an instant. Then it dawned upon me that if anything was going to change, I needed to go to college, learn more, get the credintials I need to achieve higher in life and make a definite impact. I am the only one of my kind.

I didn't go to college to set me up for a job or career. Only what I get from college would do that. I was ready to learn and to combat the NWO and other possible suspects from the inside. That is my plan.

That is when I motivated myself to achieve very high grades in a competitve school.

You probably have not toured a high school recently, or maybe as a parent, you might be able to infer.

My first hand view: You can sum up the kids into one of three groups (extremely general and there are special cases, such as students who are smart but dont care)
1. Hardworkers, people who care about looking towards the future, people who are intelligent, able to motivate themselves. Not desensitized to the media, but smart overall.
2. The normals. Average HS kids you can expect
3. "Lower class"-Kids fed up with life and authority, do not realize the big picture. Sometimes are failing and or drop outs. Sometimes these types of people do drugs, and such like that.

Most of the people who drop out truly do not care about it. I have never met or experienced someone who dropped out because they cared about learning.

I would have dropped out if I could. I took in everything they spoon fed me there. Came home, found the internet and have developed a wide variety of skills, knowledge, and traits that most people in public high school do not.

It isn't the fact they are TEACHING US to be drones, but what they ARE NOT. We do not get a decent education on the economy. We had a 9th grade economic class that was BS. Nobody learned anything. Everything else is social scienes IS HISTORY. No current events or such. Only thing partially relevant is a marcoeconomic's class (AP). You can throw that out the window, look at the current state of the economy.

Kids these days are trying to be discipled at school, except for the fact that parents don't care and the mass media is only promoting it.

The NWO has basically won.

[edit on 26-3-2009 by truth_seeker3]



posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 07:01 PM
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For me personaly, rather than trying to make a difference, I'm trying to save my self and those important to me. As brainwashed as the world is now, and most people in my area still have no idea whats going on. Me and a knowledgable friend have tried telling people whats going on. Everyone see's us as loonies and wont be convinced of our words till its too late.

I'm going to dodge the waves. If I obviously can help in a way, then I will. But I wont remain in the pool of sheeple longer than I have to.

[edit on 26-3-2009 by Scarcer]



posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 07:27 PM
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Originally posted by Le Colonel

If 2012 doesnt wipe us out, you can bet that this generation and the next will.
I guess I have no solutions, Can we spank them again???? it seemed to work fine for me.


Thansk for the faith in my generation. To me, it seems like we are a "follow the money" generation. Im 21. I bet I could employ some people to be like nuclear technicians with a HS degree if I said no smoking a J while on the job, I will have a J rolled for your personally after works on Wednesday and Friday, and it will be the stickiest. And pay them X wage, then pay X+5 per hour once they pass this certification, X+10 when they finish it all. BAM. Skilled worker.

I think the problem is, well what am i gonna do as a job? HS kids need to be more involved in the workforce. I woulda kicked some major ass doing bookkeeping and journal entries as a HS sophomore. Now, im a grad and I will most likely start that. ewww. i wanted to be doing so much more for myself by now. Slow and steady...sigh...wins the race....unless wall street collapses when Im old and gotta keep working....sigh....



posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 07:30 PM
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Unschooling!
Look into it, please.
Public education is getting so bad.
People need to know the basic skills to survive, not spending years learning things you will never remember in even a few weeks after the class is over.
Daniel Quinn wrote a really great speach on this subject called Schooling: The Hidden Agenda, you can find it here..

www.ishmael.org...



posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 08:19 PM
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well guess what i skipped school today as well
its a mistake because i have revision today and massive scary yr 11 exam week next week im kinda screwed



posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by zombieslettuce
Unschooling!
Look into it, please.
Public education is getting so bad.
People need to know the basic skills to survive, not spending years learning things you will never remember in even a few weeks after the class is over.
Daniel Quinn wrote a really great speach on this subject called Schooling: The Hidden Agenda, you can find it here..

www.ishmael.org...



lets say i start home school where will my social life go if i have no friends in school (I HAVE A DECENT AMOUNT) just wondering for people who go straight to home schooling when they hit school age



posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by Thelast
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I'd start by...embracing technology.

Turning lectures into debates.

School's today aren't about thinking. They are about memorizing, and regurgitating.

You want innovators? Stop pretending like all the answers are set in stone.

When you really think about the collection of human knowledge, you realize how small it is, and how arrogant we are to say anything is for sure.

Hundreds of years ago, everyone knew that the Earth was flat, and that we were the center of the universe.

Now, scientists think that it's possible we live in a holographic universe.
I think you get my point.

We have ways to foster innovation and original thought from a younger age.
But the real question is...do you think that traditionalists would allow that?

[edit on 26-3-2009 by Thelast]

[edit on 26-3-2009 by Thelast]



This is brilliant. I'd give you 10 stars for this. Leaders could develop in the classroom. Damn this is smart!



posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 08:49 PM
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The opinions of adults are more important that those of "kids"

This sounds like a blatantly socialist rant. Surprising, coming from a "constitutionalist"



posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 10:21 PM
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Thank you! As someone who feels the Public Education System failed them, I've been looking into why.

It's not just funding or terrible teachers...It's the whole thing.

When the system has given up on them, is it really so shocking that they give up on it?

And for all those who say "They should just buckle down"...ect.
I hate to say it, but they've got better programming than most computers.

It doesn't work as well as it did 50 years ago, there's good reason for that.
Time to try something different before our pride runs us into the ground.



posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by piero

Originally posted by zombieslettuce
Unschooling!
Look into it, please.
Public education is getting so bad.
People need to know the basic skills to survive, not spending years learning things you will never remember in even a few weeks after the class is over.
Daniel Quinn wrote a really great speach on this subject called Schooling: The Hidden Agenda, you can find it here..

www.ishmael.org...



lets say i start home school where will my social life go if i have no friends in school (I HAVE A DECENT AMOUNT) just wondering for people who go straight to home schooling when they hit school age



That's a good question.
Human contact is crucial to our development. School provides contact with huge numbers of people, who have the potential to be friends if you pursue them.

Remember that without school you have more time and energy to spend with friends. They could join clubs or organizations to meet people, go to classes outside of school....you know.

Know that schools only enhance social growth because you are stuck in a place full of people.

You can create a group for other kids who are homeschooling as well, and get together with them a few times a week or whatever.



posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 11:16 PM
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I think that a lot of people grow up quicker than the average teenager and therefore seek more mature pursuits, such as drugs alcohol, sex. The same thing would happen if you put the average 20 or 30 year old back in school. They would reject authority and start going their own way.

In my opinion young people should be given the opportunity to go and get a job and become an adult at an earlier age, and thereby becoming responsible for themselves. There would probably be less of a chance of them skipping work if the money will allow them to pursue their own lifestyle.

The problem is a lot of young people reject the lifestyle of living with their parents, having to go to school where they get treated like children (even if they don't feel like children), studying topics they have no interest in, having no money etc etc.



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 01:13 AM
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If they were given that opportunity at an earlier age the economy would fall further. It'd take jobs away from other people and people wouldn't just be dependent off of their parents.
They did that before, a long time ago before child labor laws were enacted. But as the depression hit they decided to keep kids in schools longer so they would stay out of trouble and there would be jobs for older people who had to support children and the like.



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by zombieslettuce
Unschooling!
Look into it, please.
Public education is getting so bad.
People need to know the basic skills to survive, not spending years learning things you will never remember in even a few weeks after the class is over.
Daniel Quinn wrote a really great speach on this subject called Schooling: The Hidden Agenda, you can find it here..

www.ishmael.org...


I read the book Ishmael, very interesting. Thank you for the link.

not a one liner



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 11:04 AM
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This post is flawed. Children of all ages, and FROM all ages, throughout mankind, have been documented as rebelling against anything they seemingly have to do, especially when it's good for them...

Cue millions of children NOT eating their dinner (especially veg), NOT wanting to get up, NOT wanting to go to or stay in school and NOT going to bed when they are told. Human nature, pure and simple!

While I appreciate the question, I don't think it worthy of a topical thread (says he who has contributed further!)



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 11:05 AM
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I think kids skip school simply because they are bored and un-interested, and would rather be doing something else.



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 08:14 PM
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Were you never a kid?

I skipped school because it was boring, or I was tired, or feeling lazy. It rarely had anything to do with the programming, and more had to do with me not finishing homework so I'd rather stay home and work on it all day.



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by sadisticwoman
Were you never a kid?

I skipped school because it was boring, or I was tired, or feeling lazy. It rarely had anything to do with the programming, and more had to do with me not finishing homework so I'd rather stay home and work on it all day.


Yeah, I did for the same reasons. But my question was about subconscious rejection of the programming. The kids that skip school are not the majority. Most do as they are told. Of course socioeconomic status has something to do with this, but it was a question I raised because I thought it might be a possibility.

Maybe programming is too strong of a word. Does conditioning or indoctrination fit better? Because it is there.

Lots of good responses and thoughts from all sides. Keep it up, maybe we can get somewhere.



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 10:21 AM
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Believe me, a lot of kids (at least the ones I've been exposed to- my school may have been weird) are fully aware that they're just trying to program us. There were a few teachers who often admitted to it, and did their best not to allow it, even. My friends made a point of always being devil's advocates to almost everything we were taught, including things we believed were true.

This behavior started in middle school for us. We all knew we were taught crappy things about native americans. We all knew that they were just trying to make us unquestioning adults. They were just... really bad at doing it without us noticing.



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by sadisticwoman
reply to post by ludaChris
 


Believe me, a lot of kids (at least the ones I've been exposed to- my school may have been weird) are fully aware that they're just trying to program us. There were a few teachers who often admitted to it, and did their best not to allow it, even. My friends made a point of always being devil's advocates to almost everything we were taught, including things we believed were true.

This behavior started in middle school for us. We all knew we were taught crappy things about native americans. We all knew that they were just trying to make us unquestioning adults. They were just... really bad at doing it without us noticing.


The problem with that is kids are taught to trust their teachers, and why shouldn't they at the middle school age? I did. I had no idea I was being taught a version of history that was severely flawed and fairly edited. The US Civil War is in my opinion the best example of this. You are lucky to have had a teacher who admitted that.



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