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Originally posted by kidflash2008
reply to post by Xtraeme
The programs I have seen about the saucer type projects was that the disks were extremely unstable. They could not get higher than a few feet off the ground. The avionics computers were not capable as they are today, so many of the shapes were mothballed.
The first untethered flight occur[r]ed on 12 November 1959. Formal Air Force flight evaluations occur[r]ed at Avro in April 1960 and June 1961 - tests showed that the maximum speed was 35 mph and resea[r]ch at NASA showed that the Avrocar was aerodyn[a]mically unstable. (source)
Originally posted by ch1466
The edge area will be lower and there won't be any native vortice flow spiraling off the tip as with a conical or ogival radome.
But your total aspect ratio and certainly ruling factors are going to be adversely effected. As will the area that is heated, both as a 'leading edge' (if it can truly be launched 'in any direction') function and as a an element of total surface area behind a very acute shock.
Even the notion of 'systems density' spreads seems counter intuitive since surely the motors must all be grouped along a common plenum if not thrust line and significant differences between the guidance/warhead/motor sections would arise, both before, during and after burnout.
About the only real justification I can see for this weapon is (in a bomber fuselage width weapons bay) the option of 'stacking' the rounds like a records in a jukebox. So that you had maximum packing density from minimum total volume.
it lacks conventional stabilizing surfaces or the associated control surfaces, in its purest form the flying wing suffers from the inherent disadvantages of being unstable and difficult to control. These compromises are difficult to reconcile, and efforts to do so can reduce or even negate the expected advantages of the flying wing design, such as reductions in weight and drag. (source)
The Nazis had many projects, but little money to develop any of them thoroughly. They had hundreds of these projects going on at once, and that was a big reason why they failed most of the time.
The early U-2s were silver (they were later painted black) & reflected the rays from the sun, especially at sunrise and sunset. They often appeared as fiery objects to observers below. Air Force BLUE BOOK investigators aware of the secret U-2 flights tried to explain away such sightings by linking them to natural phenomena such as ice crystals and temperature inversions. (source)
The first suggestion that these studies might be translated into operational hardware appeared in the Fiscal Year 1986 procurement program document, colloquially known as the P-1, dated 4 February 1985. A line item in this document, labeled "Aurora," was slated to receive $80 million in 1986, and over $2.2 billion in 1987. Since this line item appeared next to the line funding the TR-1 reconnaissance aircraft, it stirred up a hornet's nest of conjecture that a secret aircraft was being developed to replace the aging SR-71.
The Air Force quickly denied the existence of a secret program, and said the "Aurora" budget line was simply one site for B-2 bomber funds when that program was highly classified. One Air Force official commented, "I wish I could say it is (an SR-71 follow-on), because we'd love to have it. But it's just accounting, I'm afraid."
Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
What an enjoyable and great thread! I have had the pleasure of seeing some of the newer unmanned crafts (and a small scale version of a possible future manned craft as well) and can tell you, although none of them have been pictured here, they are along the same design lines and if you follow the evolution in the pictures posted in this thread you would end up with something close to what I have seen for sure.
Xtraeme, perhaps you should take a look at the advanced aircraft forum and get some opinions over there as well.