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Germany and EU to Legalise Paedophilia ?

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posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 09:18 AM
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BERLIN, July 30, 2007(LifeSiteNews.com) - Booklets from a subsidiary of the German government's Ministry for Family Affairs encourage parents to sexually massage their children as young as 1 to 3 years of age. Two 40-page booklets entitled "Love, Body and Playing Doctor" by the German Federal Health Education Center (Bundeszentrale für gesundheitliche Aufklärung - BZgA) are aimed at parents - the first addressing children from 1-3 and the other children from 4-6 years of age.

www.tpuc.org...


This subject has been spoken about by several people like David Icke and Henry Makow for example.
An engineered move to a new world order of sexual morals, or more the lack of them.
This german bookled, to be used in nursery schools, will help this agenda, if this information is real.
Some of the information in the articles is to sexual explicid to be posted on this board so to get a real idea of what is stated in the german bookled you have to visit the links provided.

Can any one comfirm that this information in the posted articles is true or not?
If so, than i think this is realy shocking news!




It is reported that use of these booklets is not only obligatory in nine German regions, but that they are used for training nursery, kindergarten and elementary school teachers. Inexplicably, and quite bizarrely, it is recommended by organisations tasked with fighting paedophilia.

archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com...




Illuminati defectors have provided abundant evidence of the proclivity of our secret masters to have sex with children. Children are passed around like "bottles of fine wine" among many notables in the world of politics, finance, justice etc. They are protected by allies in the courts and police. Thus Madelaine McCann can be stolen from her parents in Portugal, and ferreted to a waiting yacht, and Portuguese police level absurd accusations at her parents.

Society will continue to condemn and punish some pedophilia and child porn, while at the same time conditioning the public to its eventual acceptance. Pedophilia is the logical outcome of the values promoted by the New World Order: sex for its own sake without reference to love, marriage and procreation.

www.savethemales.ca...


(edit:question mark added to title)

[edit on 24-3-2009 by jaamaan]




posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 09:53 AM
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I do once remember hearing of a movement in Belgium which tried to have paedophilia regognised as a sexual preference. This was after a large paedophile ring was exposed in that country. You can imagine the publis response

This is utterly unbelievable and is probably a misreprestation of the facts. Probably it is a tool to enable victims to relate their expieriences.
Hope so anyway.



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 09:55 AM
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if this is true, then this is a most heinous atrocity in the making. Would pre-school teachers really do this? How mentally damaged does someone have to be to beleive in this? Please, someone, post a list of the people responsible for this. Maybe we can make them feel some new sensations as well.



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 09:59 AM
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Where does it say there is a bill waiting to be passed?
oh right there isnt one.
The title of this thread makes a bold, unsubstantial claim.



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 10:02 AM
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The police having the highest proportion of paedos in society will be all getting excited now. The fbi did a sting in early part of thsi century in england and found the highest rate of the paedos where police officers. Nice people and you wonder why they want the laws changed, lol.

Scum.



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 10:16 AM
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Is this what the world has come to? Acceptance of paedophilia??? This is disgusting. Remember when this used to be called sexual abuse?? Remember the dude who locked his daughter in his basement and fathered children with her?? This is what this will lead too. I cannot even imagine that this will become an accepted practice. If so, bring on the hell, fire and brimstone. We deserve it



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 10:25 AM
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1. Where does it say anywhere there that pedophilia is to be legalized in the EU? Do you honestly think that we would allow this? If the thought of it didn't make me sick, i would probably think it was hilarious.

2. Germans have a completely different view on sexuality than most of the rest of the western world.. theirs is similar in a way to the Japanese way of viewing sex. It probably stems from the impact through generations of so much horror and destruction occurring.

I still cant see a reason why they would do this though.. its messed up. You sure this is real?



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 11:15 AM
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I have added a question mark to the thread title.
It does not seem that there is an ongoing discussion in the german government to legalise peadophilia.

What is posted here are two bookleds published by : the German Federal Health Education Center (Bundeszentrale für gesundheitliche Aufklärung - BZgA)
They are publishing new parental guidelines that dont even seem to be legal, at least not where i live.
The question is, are these new parental guidelines legal in germany ?
After all they publish them.

Can any one confirm that these bookleds are actualy real and possibly used?
Because if they are, and they look kind of real, than this would be shocking news.
What is this story about ?
A new agenda beeing pushed forward behind the screens or is it just a plain hoax ?
I am not sure!?



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 11:23 AM
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You see it here every day:

1. Someone posts pure fiction

2. Several posters respond in anger and protest over the made-up story without giving a damn that its not true.

There is nothing whatsoever to indicate that the EU or Germany will legalize or endorse pedophilia.

But you guys just keep believing whatever you want to believe in your blind paranoia.

[edit on 24-3-2009 by lucid eyes]



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 11:29 AM
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The booklet was apparently withdrawn in Germany following public protests, (though that is according to the Sun....)
The booklet (in German) can be downloaded from this site:

www.averynearlytea.com...



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 11:53 AM
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Thank you for the information that you posted.
The website you show has a fairly positive look on the subject of the published german bookleds.
It shows several other sources confirming these new type of parental "guidelines"

The new view is promoted with the idea that in the past most children where sexual repressed and therefore sexualy scared for life.
I that the moral views of the past can be looked back on with just black and white glasses.
Just because "some" people have been sexual repressed in the past doesnt have to mean we all have to lean to the other far end of the moral debate.

Personaly i have to say that i do not agree with this new look on sexual education for "very" young children and i tend to get drawn to the views of Henry Makow.


many people see sex purely as pleasure rather than part of marriage and procreation. As a result, they can't see that, both in social and personal terms, sibling incest is very damaging.


And i agree with the person who posted this on that site in the comments section:


I am still in shock from your other post about this subject. It is so hard for me to believe that individuals are coming to these conclusions. Ideas definitely have consequences and it's horrifying when the result is molesting children.

I was reminded of the verses in the romantic Song of Solomon,"Do not awaken love until it so desires." God created sex for my children to enjoy but timing is everything. I am not abusing my children by "sheltering" them from understanding their sexuality while they are so young. They shouldn't be concerned with such issues right now. Love in the sensual sense can rest until they are mature enough to be a parent.

www.averynearlytea.com...


The comments section of that is tells its own tale.




this post is not a reply to you only, it also replies to the information on the website you posted.



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 11:56 AM
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Originally posted by lucid eyes
You see it here every day:

1. Someone posts pure fiction

2. Several posters respond in anger and protest over the made-up story without giving a damn that its not true.

There is nothing whatsoever to indicate that the EU or Germany will legalize or endorse pedophilia.

But you guys just keep believing whatever you want to believe in your blind paranoia.

[edit on 24-3-2009 by lucid eyes]


Pure fiction would imply that all the information that has been posted is fiction.
I am afraid that this is not the case.
The only fictional information posted would be the title that i copied straight from the article.
Would you care to comment on the "non fictional" part of the OP?

[edit on 24-3-2009 by jaamaan]



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 12:08 PM
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Here is the article that "the sun" published about the booklet.



Available from the Kinderschutz Schweiz, an independent Swiss organisation for the prevention of sexual violence, it includes advice on massaging the sexual organs of children aged between one and three.

www.thesun.co.uk...



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 12:18 PM
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Here is some more information i found on the subject.



Canadian author and public speaker Michael O'Brien who has written and spoken extensively about the crisis of culture in the West spoke to LifeSiteNews.com about the shocking and extremely disturbing phenomenon. It is, he said, "State-encouraged incest, which in most civilized societies is a crime." The development is, he suggests, a natural outcome of the rejection of the Judeo-Christian moral order.

www.lifesitenews.com...


So i suppose ""State-encouraged incest" is legal in germany and the EU as long as you call it education.



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by jaamaan
So i suppose ""State-encouraged incest" is legal in germany and the EU as long as you call it education.


Yea, because we're all encouraged to have sex with our families here


Are you telling me that I am legally allowed to rape my little sister in Ireland?

There are 500 million odd people in the EU.. only 80 of them in Germany.. Also, Its completely illegal to touch a child like that in Germany.. Your observations have absolutely no substance, are completely unsubstantiated and are just stupid.

[edit on 24/3/09 by Dermo]



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 12:59 PM
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Y'know, until just now, I felt that I could let my guard down, and just beleive everything on this site. but NO MORE! If someone can lie about German Institutionalized pederasty, then who knows what else they might be getting wrong? HAHAHA. No seriously, is the pamphlet legitamate?



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by dashen
If someone can lie about German Institutionalized pederasty, then who knows what else they might be getting wrong?


Did you read the information posted, it doesnt look that way.
Because the booklet was actualy published, so there you go with your "German Institutionalized pederasty".

If you want to look the other way i can understand.



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 07:38 PM
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Originally posted by andy1033
The police having the highest proportion of paedos in society will be all getting excited now. The fbi did a sting in early part of thsi century in england and found the highest rate of the paedos where police officers. Nice people and you wonder why they want the laws changed, lol.

Scum.


Andy,
I am no great fan of the British Police force, please can you post a link to information which substantiates your claim as I think you may be confusing the Police with the Catholic priesthood.

I know about the FBI's role in cracking the internet paedophile ring (no pun intended) but was unaware that the highest percentage were Police officers again, please can you post a link to evidence which corroborates your claim.

PEACE,
RK



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by jaamaan
Here is the article that "the sun" published about the booklet.



Available from the Kinderschutz Schweiz, an independent Swiss organisation for the prevention of sexual violence, it includes advice on massaging the sexual organs of children aged between one and three.

www.thesun.co.uk...


I can not believe that you posted that "rag" as supporting evidence for your claims... Also the website that you first posted is not exactly reuters is it?
incidentally, I checked Reuters and found nothing.

Also the article above refers to a Swiss organization and your OP refers to a German one, which is it?

In a case like this I would want to see the 40 page booklets and make my own mind up rather than rely on somebody elses interpretation which is what you are doing.

I am sure that Stefanie or Angelika would be happy to answer any questions to substantiate your thread.

Contact:
Federal Centre for Health Education (BZgA)
Ostmerheimerstraße 220
Angelika Hessling and Stefanie Amann
D - 51109 Köln
Tel: +49-(0) 221- 8992-0
Fax: +49-(0)221- 8992-363
Email: stefanie.amann@bzga.de, angelika.hessling@bzga.de
www.bzga.de

PEACE,
RK



posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 02:50 AM
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Originally posted by feoil
I do once remember hearing of a movement in Belgium which tried to have paedophilia regognised as a sexual preference. This was after a large paedophile ring was exposed in that country. You can imagine the publis response

This is utterly unbelievable and is probably a misreprestation of the facts. Probably it is a tool to enable victims to relate their expieriences.
Hope so anyway.


heh, why always belgium?


They did not try to have it recognized as a sexual preference, they tried to have it recognized as a mental illness. The whole reason: they argued that paedophiles should go to a mental institution instead of jail, and be integrated in society after treathment.
Yes, the public opposed this with large protest. It will never happen!
They know that if they ever try to release someone like Mark Dutroux, he will be lynched within hours.



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