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Originally posted by LiQuiD_FuSioN
Well, it's our fault that we've become so lazy that we have to depend on others to do the menial jobs here in the U.S. Most of all, it's the government's fault for letting this country go down the toilet.
Originally posted by TrueBrit
Well we can wrap up the debate in relative ease here. If there was no work for illegals, then there would be no illegal immagrants. END OF STORY!
The fault lies directly at the door of the US gov, who use mexico and surrounding territories to gain supplies of drugs into the US . The illegal problem came about when , after the borders got swiss cheesed by the CIA to make traffic easier to hide, the less than honest employers north of the border realised there was no point hiring people from thier own nation. That costs serious money! So they get together and call in some go to guys who say, yeah sure , we'll get you staff, and we'll charge them for it!
Years later, and the border is so permeable you could drive across it in a day glo green van with the words f**k da police in spanish on the side.
What really annoys me is the fact that , as has been mentioned already , people are so damned quick to say "Oh damn those illegals , thieving gangbangers blaah blah blah blah" but what you fail to understand is that without them, there are going to be entire ways of life, which YOU yourselves benifit from in some way , which will no longer exist. Think about all the crappy jobs that no one wants to do ? Think about all the grime and scum that illegals are employed to clean up and then tell me you want your kids doing those jobs later on? And while we are at it, when the illegals are sent back, and the hispanic gangs have been deported, guess whos whiter than white american kids will be recruited (sometimes forcibly) by whatever cartel or drug gang replaces them?? Thats right , in all likelihood it will be the kids of the loudest complainers who have to go out all night just to escape the inhumane nazi ranting at home, and then get caught out in the wrong crowd and end up shooting cops for kicks and getting high to stay wired enough that they can block out the hatred level at home. Good luck !
Originally posted by Smack
Originally posted by sadisticwoman
This land is not our land, and never, NEVER will be.
And here we see the fundamental expression of our ideological differences. I see the above worldview as hopelessly misguided and mortally wrong. Wars have been fought, blood shed for it, and nothing can change that. This Nation is our inheritance and wars will be fought, blood shed to preserve it and NOTHING you say or do can change that. So we will just have to disagree.
Our Nation. Our Laws. Our Sovereignty. Deal with it.
[edit on 24-3-2009 by Smack]