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Uk Terror Threat " Is Growing "

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posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 03:13 AM
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Did you know that this country has its own form of constitution as well?


did you know that this country has it own form of justice called :

"sharia courts"

the uk is front runner for the new world powers...

the have never cared less for people if you look at history




posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 03:16 AM
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it makes sense for them to use the uk as a testing ground for new world order powers, as we are a tiny island comapred to other countries. plus being watched as much as we are then they can counter act any sort of rebellion to stop these new world order powers.

as they say " the excrement has hit the fan " lol

the only question is What can we do about it ????

thanks again peace xxxx



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 03:19 AM
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Originally posted by Funklestiltzkin
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They got you by the balls. If you start Rioting in the streets. You will be labled an extremist and jailed. If you don't do anything the whole country is heading for that 1984 nitemare scenario, exactly what they want.

Shared values WTF!!


Dont get me wrong, I dont think rioting is the answer, that will only serve to introduce yet more restrictions on liberty. Bit like backing a everyone into a corner, what happens when the animal bites?

I for one, will be walking off into the distance when the SHTF.

Ive made my mind up on that pretty much.

I do not believe in contributing to a society that bites you back in return. I merely want one that lets me be in peace while I do my bit to keep it in place. I must admit, it is very hard not to be angry as there are a lot of things effecting me personally but fools rush in.

Think about this for a second here, imagine this G20 scenario. Nobody turns up to demonstrate or rioting etc. There are thousands of police everywhere and no protestors etc.

That would be more of a statement I think. It would be everywhere, nobody gives a sh!t what they do. We are fed up with there crap and paranoia.

Then people can protest afterwards about the appaling police presence etc

[edit on 24-3-2009 by XXXN3O]



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 03:24 AM
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Originally posted by whatshenneping
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Did you know that this country has its own form of constitution as well?


did you know that this country has it own form of justice called :

"sharia courts"

the uk is front runner for the new world powers...

the have never cared less for people if you look at history



I know what you are saying.

It does look like there is nothing to do.

Why not do nothing quite literally then for that is the last thing they expect.

Walk away and contribute nothing to them.

That would expose a weakness to exploit at least and if not it would gradually make them change their tune.

Would you run into an army of 1000 troops running towards you?

I wouldnt, I would sneak off if possible and pick them off later when they let their guard down.

I am speaking metaphorically if you get me.

[edit on 24-3-2009 by XXXN3O]



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 03:27 AM
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God I hate Harman and Smith. With a passion. Honestly, this has just ruined my day, before work.

I would rather side with anyone else over either of them. Hitler or Harman and Smith? Well, I guess I don't like the Jews that much...



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 03:33 AM
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Think about this for a second here, imagine this G20 scenario. Nobody turns up to demonstrate or rioting etc. There are thousands of police everywhere and no protestors etc. That would be more of a statement I think. It would be everywhere, nobody gives a sh!t what they do. We are fed up with there crap.


That is brilliant!!

If only the whole country could sit on there asses and do nothing. Oh I forgot they already do.


I have been travelling alot in the last 15 years and have been all over the world. I've noticed the world is changing ever faster. In reality there is no safe haven any longer. Every country I have visited seems to be getting more restricted, The US and UK's war on terror seems to have spread like a virus across the world creating fear and paranoia where ever it goes.



When animals get backed into a corner what do they do.



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 03:36 AM
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sorry my friend for ruining your day
just thought maybe people should see this is all
always helps to educate yourself a little, peace xxx



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 03:40 AM
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Originally posted by Funklestiltzkin
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Think about this for a second here, imagine this G20 scenario. Nobody turns up to demonstrate or rioting etc. There are thousands of police everywhere and no protestors etc. That would be more of a statement I think. It would be everywhere, nobody gives a sh!t what they do. We are fed up with there crap.


That is brilliant!!

If only the whole country could sit on there asses and do nothing. Oh I forgot they already do.


I have been travelling alot in the last 15 years and have been all over the world. I've noticed the world is changing ever faster. In reality there is no safe haven any longer. Every country I have visited seems to be getting more restricted, The US and UK's war on terror seems to have spread like a virus across the world creating fear and paranoia where ever it goes.



When animals get backed into a corner what do they do.



What happens to the animals that bite?

That is where I am coming from.

I do not know if you are seeing my point, I am trying to say how in this particular scenario doing nothing would highlight the paranoia of government and just how much we are controlled. The media would be over that like a rash if not one soul turned up at this meeting.

They would be panicking big time wondering what is going on. They want you to riot at this and im telling you that is what is going to happen. It is going to be used as an excuse for more civil liberty restrictions being introduced.

Silence is deafening in certain circumstances.

After all the world is becoming a psychological battle ground and its time people started using there heads instead of conventional things such as creating a racket.

Maybe even everyone turning up has no banners, no slogans, no shouting etc, does absolutely nothing apart from stare constantly and stand completely still would have as much of the desired effect in an eerie way.

I mean, they cannot exactly call that terrorism can they?


I think you might have got my point though, im not sure




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posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 03:55 AM
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i agree with you my friend, that seems like it would send a more powerful message than actually doing what they want which is like you said " rioting " .



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 04:04 AM
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Originally posted by Free4Ever2
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i agree with you my friend, that seems like it would send a more powerful message than actually doing what they want which is like you said " rioting " .



Can you imagine the report on that though.

"The world was in absolute chaos today as thousands took to the streets..................erm.......pointing 100000 fingers at the G20 meeting.
Police said that new legislation is needed to prevent this kind of terrorism from ever happening again.

People could never pull that off as that is the kind of discipline that makes a point. Not smashing the place up and then pointing at the people who arent attending.

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posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 04:06 AM
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I agree with you 100 percent. Sorry if my comment came across sarcastically. I really do think its a brilliant idea.

The question is how could you convince people not to protest about something they disagree with. Thats the way its always been done.

If you remember the poll tax riots in the early 90's that was almost a trial run on how people would react to unfare treatment by the government. It only takes 1 person to throw a bottle at a policeman and you have got yourselve a riot.

news.bbc.co.uk...

They must have learnt a lot of lessons from that. Like how to cause civil unrest.

I am sure these events are planned years in advance Which might explain the monumental increase of cctv everywhere you look since those riots.

There getting ready for the revolutionary cork to pop out of this bottle.

What about a silent protest. The whole country goes on strike just for one day. No one goes out to work or spends any money. Hit em where it hurts there pocket. I don't know how much it would cost, but I'm sure it would be a lot of millions.

Probably not the most practical thing to do in a recession but hey its got to break at some point might as well speed it up a bit.



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 04:12 AM
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No the UK government is spending more and more on surveillance and anti-terror measures.... why? Because these can easily be turned on the general public to snoop and control them. More people have died from the IRA terrorist than Al-Qaeda but the amount of money spent against these two organizations is vastly different. The UK is at the forefront of civil surveillance, illegal or not all these countermeasures to terrorists are meant for us.



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 04:24 AM
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Originally posted by Funklestiltzkin
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I agree with you 100 percent. Sorry if my comment came across sarcastically. I really do think its a brilliant idea.

The question is how could you convince people not to protest about something they disagree with. Thats the way its always been done.

If you remember the poll tax riots in the early 90's that was almost a trial run on how people would react to unfare treatment by the government. It only takes 1 person to throw a bottle at a policeman and you have got yourselve a riot.

news.bbc.co.uk...

They must have learnt a lot of lessons from that. Like how to cause civil unrest.

I am sure these events are planned years in advance Which might explain the monumental increase of cctv everywhere you look since those riots.

There getting ready for the revolutionary cork to pop out of this bottle.

What about a silent protest. The whole country goes on strike just for one day. No one goes out to work or spends any money. Hit em where it hurts there pocket. I don't know how much it would cost, but I'm sure it would be a lot of millions.

Probably not the most practical thing to do in a recession but hey its got to break at some point might as well speed it up a bit.


I just think that people need to move beyond the burn the witch mentality of noise and rabble. In a world where psychology is used by governments, psychology needs to be used by the people as well.

I used an example above your reply to highlight what I am meaning. Silent finger pointing.

To me a protest is about making a point, it is meant to be a stressful experience, something that takes discipline and the final decision is what counts not the particular day at hand.
The tradional protests such as poll tax etc are more about getting your anger out on the government, trashing the place, shouting at the people responsible and the point gets lost in amongst all of it.

We have never had a silent protest yet in my eyes, the french are good at striking but that is not a proper silent protest. To me a silent protest is simply a day when nobody does anything and risks everything to make their point. Dont go to work, dont watch tv, dont speak, dont do anything at all in a massive volume.

Both are extremely hard to do because people value what they have but in the end if it is not done, they are going to lose it anyway.



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 04:29 AM
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How do you stop this ball from rolling. It has got such momentum now its nigh on impossible to stop it.

The government know this and they don't give a sh$t what the public think(if they think at all). "Its like that and thats the way it is."

I'm sick of it. Like a lot of people I've been harkin on about this to everyone I know for the last 2 years. Now all of a sudden things have taken a turn for the worst, people are starting to take notice. Well parden my pessimism but its too bloody late now.

The anti terror laws are signed sealed and delivered and were all destined to become a slave race working for the elitist scum, powering there printing presses, just like they have always wanted!

2000 year Mission complete!!



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 04:32 AM
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The biggest social experiment of our time is coming to a close as "new" labour slowly lose their grip on power.

This social experimet was never designed to help the people of the UK, but was designed to propel us into an orwellian state of total control over every aspect of our lives.

For get the "new" labour tag - that was just spin.

What we have been seeing is old socialists verging on communists who haven't changed their spots since being long haired students who wanted to put the world to rights and remake it in their image.

Between labour and europe, we are now one of the most regulated countries in the world except in the one area it really mattered - banking regulation.

Brown has never been the economic genius of media myth - he inherited a thriving economy and has slowly driven it into the ground.

Then we have the plethora of new laws and new regulations.

These have been created because of one reason only.

Because of the collapse of the nationalised industries, and the privatisatiion of many state owned industries, Blair and Brown needed to create a new core of voters in such a way that they couldn't be brought down as easily as the old ones.

Behold - the vast and bloated "new" labour civil service.

An army of ready made votes for them whose brief was to "make work" to justify their continued existence and massive spending.

Is it any wonder we are taxed at every turn?
After all these people still need to be paid, and the plan had the added bonus of exerting more control over us.

Unfortunately, labour had only one plan - and as we can see from this latest news release, they rely on fear, spin and intimidation of the electorate to implement this.

They will never change, so we must change the government - and we will, given the opportunity.

It can't come soon enough...



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 04:33 AM
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The problem here is that any external terrorist threat is a direct creation of those in power, due to their actions abroad in propping up oppressive regimes or wars fought for corporate profit.
We could easily close the ports of entry to everyone coming from designated areas of concern and deport anyone found to be here, or arriving illegally.

What we are missing though is anyone in power with the nuts to turn to the EU and tell them to go take a hike. What we are missing is anyone in power who will call a spade a spade and damn the politically correct buttholes. The security of the people is being deliberately compromised and endangered by our own government in order to usher in more and more repressive legislation. They are the real traitors here, not the people willing to take to the streets and call for the whole political organisation to be taken down.

They'll just keep waving the idiotic Labour / Conservative junk at us, as if it matters who is in power at the time, and tell us that come election time we can make a change. Well, historically we have all seen exactly what change we can make and how hollow this whole "Democracy" illusion really is when scrutinised.


Then we have these schemes dreamed up by the Government for large numbers of people in the public sector to work as the eyes and ears of the security state. How wonderful! They don't have to spend much but I can see a spike in "incidents" coming as over-zealous individuals report what they consider suspicious behaviour, thus increasing the number of "terrorism" related investigations which in turn bumps up the governments figures. We went through 2 world wars and a prolonged IRA bombing campaign without the need for all of this. Oh Wait! The security services were in that up to their eyeballs too, on both sides, to keep the conflict going for peoples dirty little agendas.



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 04:36 AM
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So do you think we should make G20 summit day, Silent protest day?

A day of meditation and reflection.

where the people of the world can take a good long hard look at themselves and think about what they have allowed themselves to become.

Or grab our burning stakes and go on a witch hunt!!



[edit on 24/3/2009 by Funklestiltzkin]



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 04:52 AM
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Originally posted by Funklestiltzkin
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So do you think we should make G20 summit day, Silent protest day?

A day of meditation and reflection.

where the people of the world can take a good long hard look at themselves and think about what they have allowed themselves to become.



I do not know about the meditation part but certainly reflection if you are watching a tv with rioting on it or are being beaten in the face by a policeman in riot gear if you are at the demonstrations. When you ask yourself how did it comes to this and why does nobody seem to care, it is really just the fact that everyone cares so much that they do not know what to do about it and for that very reason it is not going to get anything done as the attention is all over the place.

Hard hitting reality of it is that this whole summit is a pressure cooker scenario.

I just think that in future people need to look at what they want to convey and how they do it. Who they want to answer their call and why should that person answer it. How much will they put on the line to get what they want.

History is just going to repeat itself until people move beyond the past.

Its a sad state of affairs. Nobody can ever get anywhere in this life as it is without a certain degree of risk in any area of life and until people risk anything materialistic, nothing is going to be done. In the end when we have nothing to risk or lose, then it is truly game over when it comes to making a change for the better.

Plenty of people will put there homes on the line for a business, plenty of people will invest in something that may not give them a return, plenty of people borrow money they cannot repay. Everyone risks things that they value almost all the time without thinking of the consequences. The minute you say to someone, would you put it on the line for your freedom. Silence.

Time is still on the peoples side for now.

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posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 04:58 AM
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Poll Tax riots?

The first riot, March 31, 1990. So much disinformation about how many people attended. I estimate that a minimum quarter million people from all over the uk attended that day. It was a beautiful, silver coloured day.

The march was peaceful, from south of the Thames, past Westminster, up Whitehall past Downing St and on to Trafalger Square. The most aggressive act by marchers was the wonderful 'boooing' past Westminster. Overall, people were good natured, it was a happy day and a good experience. The annual boat race was being contested that day, elitist for sure, but part of proud British heritage non the less.

I then witnessed the police start a riot.

They closed off Whitehall at Downing Street and again nearer to the junction with Whitehall and Trafalger.

And then they came charging out, with horse, armoured vehicle and full riot gear, from the military complex in Whitehall and from the rear access to apartheid era South Africa house, AND INDISCRIMINANTLEY ATTACKED PEOPLE.

People reacted to seeing others attacked, and fought back. I witnessed the elderly, middle class families, anarchists, communists, war vets, allsorts, VOICE disagreement with police action, booing each police charge (mainly by the anarchists and members of Socialist Workers Party), cheering each reply.

We are policed by consent in the UK. Nobody consented to being violently attacked by the police for exercising the right of freedom of speech and peaceful protest against an unfair and unjust tax.

Next day, April 1st! and the news reports all told a very different story. A young police woman was selected to be interviewed for tv;

'I never thought the British people could be so vicious'.

If you want to look at peaceful protest, check out Black Sash. A women's organisation in South Africa, one of their actions was that each year on the anniversary of the constitutionalisation of apartheid, to silently march on parliament, and hang their heads in shame at the actions of their government. Some even donned ashes!

Very powerful. Imagine this happening now, outside Westminster. Would the police start a riot? Only if the protesters are white.



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 05:13 AM
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Poll Tax riots?

The first riot, March 31, 1990. So much disinformation about how many people attended. I estimate that a minimum quarter million people from all over the uk attended that day. It was a beautiful, silver coloured day.

The march was peaceful, from south of the Thames, past Westminster, up Whitehall past Downing St and on to Trafalger Square. The most aggressive act by marchers was the wonderful 'boooing' past Westminster. Overall, people were good natured, it was a happy day and a good experience. The annual boat race was being contested that day, elitist for sure, but part of proud British heritage non the less.

I then witnessed the police start a riot.

They closed off Whitehall at Downing Street and again nearer to the junction with Whitehall and Trafalger.

And then they came charging out, with horse, armoured vehicle and full riot gear, from the military complex in Whitehall and from the rear access to apartheid era South Africa house, AND INDISCRIMINANTLEY ATTACKED PEOPLE.

People reacted to seeing others attacked, and fought back. I witnessed the elderly, middle class families, anarchists, communists, war vets, allsorts, VOICE disagreement with police action, booing each police charge (mainly by the anarchists and members of Socialist Workers Party), cheering each reply.

We are policed by consent in the UK. Nobody consented to being violently attacked by the police for exercising the right of freedom of speech and peaceful protest against an unfair and unjust tax.

Next day, April 1st! and the news reports all told a very different story. A young police woman was selected to be interviewed for tv;

'I never thought the British people could be so vicious'.

If you want to look at peaceful protest, check out Black Sash. A women's organisation in South Africa, one of their actions was that each year on the anniversary of the constitutionalisation of apartheid, to silently march on parliament, and hang their heads in shame at the actions of their government. Some even donned ashes!

Very powerful. Imagine this happening now, outside Westminster. Would the police start a riot? Only if the protesters are white.



This is the reason I was saying silence is deafening.

If nobody turns up at these events and does nothing that day whatsover including, not working for the week, not paying bills, not doing a single thing ,very hard to do on a nationwide effort but not impossible, it might make a point that cannot be ignored.

It would also guarantee that people would not be beaten up etc.

I think the poll tax riots are a disgrace when it comes to the way people were treated and the G20 summit is going to be similar I fear.

I think it boils down to how much people would put on the line to get a point across and sadly not much despite what is going on. Still people will take out loans the cannot afford, invest in losing stocks, put there house up for collateral on a business, remortgage there homes to buy them time, spend money the do not have, work hard at a job and lose it because of a financial system that does not work.

What is crazier really?

Risking everything you have to keep it through more debts or risking everything you have to change the things effecting your life and the things you own through debt?

Same risks with a different outcome potentially.

But I guess that would be some form of economic terrorism?

[edit on 24-3-2009 by XXXN3O]



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