Obama set to unveil Mexico border drugs/guns plan, page 3
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reply posted on 24-3-2009 @ 12:13 PM by RedDragon
Chart comparing dangers of popular drugs; alcohol is easily a hard drug comparable to drugs like cocaine while cannabis is a much softer drug.



Expanding the drug war even more to fight cannabis is clearly moronic. Thus, this plan by Obama is just another way to chip away at what should be our right to choose what we put in our own bodies instead of having the government forcefully monitor our lives and health for us.

If you disagree, you, like most Americans, are probably overweight. Let's see how you feel when the government threatens to put you in jail for half of your diet and forcefully puts you on a weight loss program 'for your own good'.

Ironically, being overweight is more dangerous to your health than vaporizing cannabis everyday.

I bring up cannabis as the main point because it's the main export (around 80% of their revenue I remember reading) of the drug cartels this plan is aimed at.


[edit on 3/24/09 by RedDragon]


reply posted on 24-3-2009 @ 12:39 PM by chise61
reply to post by MikeboydUS



Then i guess you are of the belief that alcohol should not be freely available either, as it falls into the same category. The same way that they realized that prohibition was doing more harm than good, they need to realize that this so called war on drugs does more harm then good.


reply posted on 24-3-2009 @ 12:41 PM by wonderworld
reply to post by RedDragon



Good point. I wonder if we legalized all drugs the Mexican Mafia would then start protesting.

They would all go bust. They’d then probably switch fields of work like you say and head other illegal market demands.

Regardless there will always be good and evil in the world. Obama cant fix that with any bill.



reply posted on 24-3-2009 @ 01:07 PM by djzombie
It can all be linked to prohibition, every negative aspect of drug use.

Hard drugs are expensive because there's a monopoly on them. You're right though about everyone growing their own. But there would be a legitimate business market of high quality grow houses popping up. Thus defeating the monopoly, driving the price down, and thus it becomes like any other commodity.

www.answers.com...
South American Indians “chew” coca as a mild stimulant by placing dried leaves in the mouth and masticating with various alkalies such as lime or plant ashes to promote the release of the alkaloids, which are swallowed.


Problems arose when it was refined to its current form. But used in its natural state its no more harmful than caffeine.

People are so ignorant of our history. The declaration of independence was written on hemp paper. It used to be mandatory(as in illegal not to) grow hemp, for the war effort.

[edit on 24-3-2009 by djzombie]


reply posted on 24-3-2009 @ 01:43 PM by 27jd
reply to post by scoopkill



Why would ANYBODY want to purchase crap off the streets from the south, that has been in WHO KNOWS how many bloody, dirty hands, with who knows what kind of additives when they could purchase goods made here, in the US for probably less money, and actual regulation? Would you buy BEER out of a milk jug thats traveled from south america from some shady guy off the street, or would you prefer a nice, sealed and fresh 6 pack from a licensed vendor? I'd gladly even pay a little extra for the sealed 6 pack personally.



reply posted on 24-3-2009 @ 02:03 PM by Trojanman_18
reply to post by HimWhoHathAnEar



I'm and american-mexican not "mexican -american" like everybody else calls themselves. American first, mexican second and I think that this has gotten way out of control and Obama needs to onion up and close the damn border untill we can figure out a solution to the drug war. Enough of this open border mentality. My entire fathers side of the family is from Yucatan mexico and guess what, they waited their turn in line and became U.S. citizens. They got all their papers in order and did it the right way.

I really don't feel for any illegal alien boo hoo story because what they don't realize is that they have jumped ahead of people who already are in line trying to come the U.S. legally. My solution to the problem is to build some kinda of barrier on the border, put the national guard there, and send back all the illegals with criminal records! Done and done..... For those already here, you give them a timeline, say 2 years. 2 years to get their papers inorder, pay some kind of fine for breaking the law, and then they can wait their turn to citizenship. In mean time issue them some kind of I.D. and temporary work card. If in those 2 years they haven't completed their papers and paid the fine then guess what, back you go. Easy, simple, even a moron like me can figure this out.

Too bad our government officials will NEVER have the onions to man up and say enough is enough. i've been to mexico many time during the summer and you know what? they honestly don't give a damn about the U.S. so why sould we give a damn about Mexico? In times of economic turmoil we need to put our citizens first, then worry about Mexico.
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