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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
That is called Climate Change, which is natural, and not Global Warming.
The claim surrounding Global Warming is that atmospheric CO2 has been protrayed as being more important than the Sun, and all other natural factors, yet we know for a fact this is not true.
Originally posted by Annee
If you have a pre-intent agenda to prove one side or the other - - you will always find someone who agrees with you.
Science should always have an open end.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by EnlightenUp
I do not and I do not believe he is the cause of anyone paying attention.
I am anyone.
A "dog" just got run over by a car. Let's discuss whether it makes a difference if its a Cadillac or a Toyota.
Originally posted by WeAreAWAKE
"I feel that it does not matter if we are causing "climate change" or not. It ONLY makes good since to take care of the planet that takes care of us."
So let me get this straight...and on the record for all to see...especially since there are multiple comments just like this throughout this thread.
It doesn't matter if we were being lied to the whole time, by Gore and his kind...so long as your liberal, "we hate ourselves" agenda is satisfied???
Did I get that right???
Originally posted by stikkinikki
I agree that the source article is bunk. I have yet to see authenticated evidence that all the planets in our solar system are warming up. It should be all of them shouldn't it? Except Neptune I think that orbit goes outside of Pluto's for awhile.
It is obvious TO ME that humans are contributing to climate changes.
I don't worship Gore, Michael Moore or Obama.
I don't think favoring a carbon tax is a prerequisite of scientific understanding of our societies contribution to atmospheric CO2.
I don't favor a carbon tax, I favor changing our energy sources and now.
PS: Obama is a natural born citizen of the USA.
Originally posted by amazed
We are in a drought and have been for years as well as it's far warmer than it was 20 or even 30 years ago. Our trees are dying because it has been too warm. We are not getting the snow like we should be, almost none at all. Usually we have snow on our mountains all year long. Not so for the past many years.
Ice between Canada and SW Greenland: highest level in 15 years.
As yet another indicator of the impact January 2008 has had on the Northern Hemisphere, we find this story from Greenland’s Sermitsiaq News:
Minus 30 degrees Celsius. That’s how cold it’s been in large parts of western Greenland where the population has been bundling up in hats and scarves. At the same time, Denmark’s Meteorological Institute states that the ice between Canada and southwest Greenland right now has reached its greatest extent in 15 years.
‘Satellite pictures show that the ice expansion has extended farther south this year. In fact, it’s a bit past the Nuuk area. We have to go back 15 years to find ice expansion so far south. On the eastern coast it hasn’t been colder than normal, but there has been a good amount of snow.’
And on the front page, a story about that other “indicator of climate”, the polar bear:
More polar bears seen at Sisimiut
Apparently, they don’t have the same affinity for them as some others do.
Finally we have this latest Arctic sea ice graph from Cryosphere Today:
Wood Products Prices in The UK & Holland
1-15th February 2009
Report from Europe, the UK and Russia
EC establishes bilateral mechanism on FLEG
On Friday 30 January 2009 the Chinese government and
European Commission established an EU-China bilateral
coordination mechanism on Forest Law Enforcement and
Governance (FLEG). The agreement was signed by Mr.
Zhu Lieke, Vice-Minister of the Chinese State Forest
Administration and Commissioner Dimas of the EC in the
presence of EC President Manuel Barroso and Chinese
Prime Minister Wen Jiabao.
The mechanism will provide a framework for policy
dialogue and joint activities on issues such as timber
legality verification, supply chain transparency and public
and private procurement policies for timber and timber
products. It also foresees the possibility of trilateral
cooperation with third countries. It is expected that the
mechanism will encourage the development of shared
approaches to timber legality verification, in which it is
likely that the systems established by countries negotiating
FLEGT Voluntary Partnership Agreements with the EU
will feature prominently.
Originally posted by TheAgentNineteen
Let me propose a theory for you. Have you ever considered the possibility that the "Warming" you have experienced, is actually a RESULT of the Drought, and not the cause for it? Moisture (specifically Condensation/Rainfall/Snowfall) is the Earth's major Regulatory system in regards to Temperatures and Climate.
Originally posted by Mason mike
reply to post by amazed
I have always thought GW was a crock, but there is NO doubt we are screwing up are planet daily. I remember reading about how during the hot part of the Iraq war, they shut down Baghdad for an afternoon for some religious thing, and everyone commented on how clean the air was. If you could stop traffic in a city for a day and have noticably cleaner air, think about if cars ran on thomething that didn't polute. Hydrogen.