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Originally posted by an0maly33
Has anyone else considered just creating another network that does essentially the same thing? Everyone controls their own node on the network - no ISP, no regulation, etc. Just a bunch of private networks linked up. We could still potentially have all of the same things that we enjoy on today's internet.
I think in a fan-hitting scenario, that's one thing I would be looking into. It's not hard to setup web servers, voice chat/messaging, etc. Just need enough people interested to make it work. The only problem would arise when connecting between long distances. Short term, we could still have nodes around the country that could provide dial-up access. It would be a step back in technology for some, but a step forward in freedom for everyone.
Originally posted by Pappie54
Wake up, there is a yen and yang to everything. The atom can power your home or flatten it, depends on how you use it. He is not against the net, just saying it has issues that are serious to our national security, that is your and my security. Nothing new or important here, find a real issue to worry about.
Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by InSpiteOf
Well, it is idealism, and it may be reductionist, but the truth is they OWN it. We CONTROL it. All we ever have to do is say "no" at any given point in time. What keeps us in this situation is a feeling of hopelessness. And, unwittingly, you are spreading that disease.
All we need to do is realize that freedom is NEVER something you "get" from someone. Freedom, (much like enlightenment) is something you already possess. You make yourself "unfree" by seeking it from another. Their permission to have it. When the act of seeking freedom from another is the very thing that binds you.
They "own" the internet. And other resources. But how did that happen? Someone sat down and decided one day that the Earth that once was something we were guests on, children of, and had a right to, should be a possession of some individual. It was an agreement we made that the guy who said "mine" was right. He didnt buy it. He said a word. "Mine." And we all said, "ok" and pretended it was his.
All we have to do is say "No. Not yours." They didnt build it, they dont operate it, and the money that they used to pay for it wasnt the result of their own sweat, it was manipulation of that very same original agreement that things not yours, (the earth, the water, the forests) could just be claimed and sold.
And it goes on til this day, in another thread today I posted on how Bechtel Corp. got the US and World bank backed Bolivian government to enforce their claim that they owned the water. Including rainwater. The Bolivian people said "no." And they won. Sure, they are being punished for it, by being denied loans to develop their water resources, but they at least are not paying someone for something that falls from the sky.
We dont have to live this way. We dont have to be slaves. And all it takes is for more of us to understand that the only thing enslaving us is us. Not them, they just tell us how to enslave ourselves. We are the ones who actually do it.
And the only thing that prevents us from ceasing in this self enslavement is our sense that we can do nothing to prevent it from happening when that is as far from the truth as it is possible to be.
Originally posted by Blue_Jay33
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
The period of world war 1 and starting in 1914 is a period that began the darkest days for humanity. Even the fed which was planned in 1913 wasn't passed until the very end of 1913 when everybody was away on holidays, wasn't chartered until the following year 1914 and implemented across the country.
Rockerfeller is probably hoarding tons of gold, I bet he has a few rooms like this.
[edit on 24-3-2009 by Blue_Jay33]
[edit on 24-3-2009 by Blue_Jay33]