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Originally posted by ahnggk
Just the fact that the media and entertainment keep ramming down real men's throats that doing things women do are okay. It's not.
Originally posted by andy1033
I think in a position of power, you have to be compromised, to get that position, that’s how they control you. I think Obama is definitely compromised, he gets his day in the light, for what ever he done, or had to do.
I doubt if you are unwilling to do certain things you would ever be allowed to get to the top.
Originally posted by huckfinn
reply to post by vcwxvwligen
In one of the scenarios I developed regarding humans is that you can be in a apparently heterosexual relationship and it be gay or lesbian and vice versa.
I've come the realization that the world is a lot more mixed up than it appears.
I am not being sarcastic.
Originally posted by Solomons
reply to post by ahnggk
Whats a real man?..as far as i know it comes down to genitalia..which gay men also have.Could you describe what a *real man* is and what a *fake man* is?
Men are generally non-conformists, rebellious, brave(not hiding in the first sign of trouble to avoid damaging their pretty faces), not pleasure-oriented, and not easily deceived(by money, etc).
And if there's really a conspiracy for control of humanity for evil purposes, then the real men can represent a resistance to their plans. What a better way to neutralize them beginning with how they think
Well not necessarily turning men into gays(where you begin to be sexually attracted to males).. But when men also start to think like women. That's when we also begin to lose diversity of thoughts, humanity as a whole suffers loss of radical ideas.
It's quite obvious nowadays how media is bombarding our thoughts that's 'it's the feminine men who gets rich and gets the women'. Little did they know, it's also killing our ability to think critically
Originally posted by tothetenthpower
You are kidding right? Men not easily deceived by money? Women? Power? That is pretty ridiculous statment. And actually men are usually more conformist the then rest when there is a reward involved. Men usually operate on the reward orientated side. Very much pleasure oriented my friend, the average male thinks about sex every 36 seconds is it? Wow, you tell me they are not pleasure oriented....
You are implying that only men would be the participants of such an evil plan, or that only men could stop the group of people attempting to take control?...
What makes you think the top of the pyramid isn't filled with women? And man's thinking usually involves just getting a bigger stick then the one you are attempting to defeat.
The diversity of thought has long been on the side of men my friend. Women have never ruled the world except for a very few notable examples in the "known" history of our species. We still have a lack of diversity in thought because we still operate on the idea that we are separate from one another, ganging up in bands to beat the others teams.
So using a more logic side of thinking and an out of the box approach to solving problems, is hindering our ability to think critically? That's kind of an odd statement considering what we've learned of man's leadership throughout history.
Now I am a man, and in know what think that we are inferior to women, I think our culture still thinks quite the opposite. The men who are caught in their mindsets, giving no room for new ideals or evolved thought are preventing us from critical thinking and hindering our ability to act as human beings and treat each other correctly. I say this only because at the current moment our world is still very male dominated.
Originally posted by resistor
Originally posted by ahnggk
Just the fact that the media and entertainment keep ramming down real men's throats that doing things women do are okay. It's not.
So to speak.
Originally posted by andy1033
I think in a position of power, you have to be compromised, to get that position, that’s how they control you. I think Obama is definitely compromised, he gets his day in the light, for what ever he done, or had to do.
I doubt if you are unwilling to do certain things you would ever be allowed to get to the top.
Bingo. Such compromise need not necessarily include sexuality, but there's no doubt it often times does. What better sword of Damocles to hold over someone’s head than a sexual peccadillo? What better method of control than such blackmail?
Originally posted by huckfinn
In one of the scenarios I developed regarding humans is that you can be in a apparently heterosexual relationship and it be gay or lesbian and vice versa.
I've come the realization that the world is a lot more mixed up than it appears.
I am not being sarcastic.
I find that to be a very salient observation huck. It's all a matter of degrees IMO. Few there be that have had no curiosity about the same sex, or the opposite. Most allow fear to rule over such tendencies rather than reason. Fear tends to get projected onto others. This is true for homo's and hetero's.
We need to live and let live without attempts at forcing acceptance. Much less conversion.
Originally posted by ahnggk
Originally posted by Solomons
reply to post by ahnggk
Whats a real man?..as far as i know it comes down to genitalia..which gay men also have.Could you describe what a *real man* is and what a *fake man* is?
I was being figurative with that statement. More in the way how 'real men' think.
Men are generally non-conformists, rebellious, brave(not hiding in the first sign of trouble to avoid damaging their pretty faces), not pleasure-oriented, and not easily deceived(by money, etc).
And if there's really a conspiracy for control of humanity for evil purposes, then the real men can represent a resistance to their plans. What a better way to neutralize them beginning with how they think
Well not necessarily turning men into gays(where you begin to be sexually attracted to males).. But when men also start to think like women. That's when we also begin to lose diversity of thoughts, humanity as a whole suffers loss of radical ideas. It's quite obvious nowadays how media is bombarding our thoughts that's 'it's the feminine men who gets rich and gets the women'. Little did they know, it's also killing our ability to think critically
[edit on 25-3-2009 by ahnggk]
Originally posted by Annee
I'm supposing this is a man - describing what a "Real" man is.
Originally posted by Nightchild
Originally posted by Annee
I'm supposing this is a man - describing what a "Real" man is.
Actually, No. Sorry to have ruined your view of all "Real Men" conspiring together.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by Nightchild
Originally posted by Annee
I'm supposing this is a man - describing what a "Real" man is.
Actually, No. Sorry to have ruined your view of all "Real Men" conspiring together.
Hardly - - I'm a 62+ year old gramma - went through women's lib - burning bras - Hippie Free Love - couple of divorces - engagement to a Cajun Jazz saxophonist - grew up on the CA beaches near Hollywood - etc. - - and am currently married to a man 21 years younger.
I know my men.
Stereotypes are just that - stereotypes. And I'm sure there are many many men who are totally relieved they don't have to live up to that "Mountain Man" stereotype any more.
We are way past the age when men had to be the physical protector.
Give me intelligence and sensitivity - - every time.
So; Why would the "classic stereotypes" of genders NOT exist, and why are they looked upon by certain people as being something so horrible? Do these people feel threatened? Surely they must do so, as they wants to lock these "stereotypes" inside the closet and throw away the key.
That said, and regarding "Real Men", a "Real Man"- for me, can be either a so called Macho, aswell as a androgyne beauty with long flowing hair. It is the things done, together with the personality, that makes someone a "Man"- or, a "Woman". In addition, the most feminine chicks I know personally, have all been born boys, physically speaking.