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Originally posted by Pjotr
Originally posted by skeptic_al
Evolution might be fast for Insects as they don't live very long.
After 1 week their off looking for a Shag
But Humans take 20-30 years before creating the next generation.
Which is severely going to impact those Minor Evolutionary Changes.
If you take the worst case over 1000 years that's only 33 generations
Insects would of had 52,000 generations. Not even in the same league.
And a Mouse in the wild ~4 months, again several hundred more
generations than humans. Huge difference.
Thanks for responding. I tend to diagree with your logic.
I can cut the human reproduction ratio in half, because we are able to reproduce in 15 years. And then, think of what you could do with lab circumstances, supposedly if you HAD to adjust the human form to adjust to external forces.
But in normal circumstances there is of course a difference in timeframe, but that does not effect the basics. That is why we experiment with insects and mice. The genetics work the same. And the insects do not need 52.000 generations, as you can read in the article. They do it in ONE, without gene-altering. That is shocking.
We used to think that genes needed a lot of time to alter, now we know one generation can do it. And we can change without it. External pressure is the only thing we need.
We also know now that consciousness and training has a lot to with it.
The intent to learn and practice and light itself activates the growth of the neural pathways for instance. They used to think that braincells grow once and don't alter.
And then in the end if you would stick to 33 geneartions in a 1000 years. The story off the future humans is that they are from 50.000 years from now, so they have at least 50 times 33 generations which give us 1650 generations according to your calculation. If you set your mind to it with the acceleration ratio of science as it is doing now, and with a outside pressure you can do al lot in that time.
[edit on 23-3-2009 by Pjotr]
[edit on 23-3-2009 by Pjotr]
Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by Mr Green
I would find this highly unlikely by changing the past they would effectively remove there time line they would not exist and then comes the problem if they don't exist how can they change the past? Supposing they did resolve that dilemma and are merely moved to another time line what about everyone they know, besides theres a good chance they could make things worse!
It can not be stressed too strongly how totally calamitous for us all the Roswell incident was. It was a major, major setback, right at the start of the future humans' project to help fix the problem. Acquiring a device such as that which the Roswell visitors carried would immediately alter the timeline which the future humans were trying to change in the first place... so there would then be two timelines that need fixing, and not just one.
Originally posted by skeptic_al
I'm going to disagree with your disagreement
Even today there are those born with imperfections, that kinda makes
them into freaks.
So to do in one or two generations, if somebody is born with big giant
black eyeballs as depicted by Hollywood than they are not going to
find anybody willing to have a shag with. Just too Freaky, natures own
way of dealing with Mutations. Mutations are random and small so the
possibility of human race waking up to find all new born have Bug Eyes
is just too out there. I did like the Movie Evolution though.
I'm pretty sure I would not want to procreate with somebody that had 6
fully formed fingers. But might consider if they had 5 fingers and an unusual
extra bump on their hand.
Originally posted by pauldamo
if you read the story of dan,humans in the future leave earth and travel to two different stars.after thousands of years with different gravity and such, dont you think they may look differnet, than if they evolved here on earth.
Humans do not understand the true concept of Time yet, cos time in itself doesn't exist, there only is the NOW.
Originally posted by Mr Green
I still have not fully grasped if other dimensions are inded in other times? Not sure about that one. I know other dimensions exist, I have felt them and seen them but are they from another time...? I really dont know, probably not, they are probably just shifts in awarness.
[edit on 24-3-2009 by Mr Green]
Originally posted by TravisT
How could time travelers ever mess anything up? If they crashed(TT1), then all they would have to do is send someone new(TT2) to warn the crashed victims(TT1) that they will crash. If the mission was a failure, then send someone to fix the problem again. I mean, you can manipulate time, so you have just that, all the time you need to fix whatever it is.
By the way, "TT-1 and 2" stand for Time Travelers.
Originally posted by ParaZep
reply to post by NephraTari
Well the light complexion of the skin and the Big Eyes may also be a side affect of this "disaster" if this is true. Say, they have had to live underground because of radiation or something and it has taken them millions of years to develop this technology of time traveling so they look extremely different because they have been living in an extremely different environment to us...?
Just throwing it out there not really sure if it's even plausible
Originally posted by thefreepatriot
the GRAYS are not us... they have been known to be liars........and look nothing like us.. not to mention they eat by spreading enzymes on there skin............ i dont care how evolved we get... we would never need to eat thru our skin!!!(this explanes the sulphur smell by many abductees as the skin also excretes waste YUCK!!!!!) SO no they are no your brothers nor our freinds.. they are using us for dna and working for someone else..... they are not OUR FREINDS
Originally posted by witchfinder1
There weren't any roswell visitors. It was a ploy by the US government to fool Russia into thinking it had gained superior technology.
Originally posted by IronMan
I think they were just lost Grays lookin' for a way home.
It's happened before.
Ramius once related a tale about how the Grays can
'bend' time and travel back to change small events.
These birds were lost... I guarrentee it, about that time
we were tryin' all sorts of weird science and it wouldn't
surprise me if they got stuck on this side.
That's how The Osmonds got here... did I tell you that?
Originally posted by NephraTari
When you look at the evolution of man, we look very similar to the way we looked long ago. our progression has been slight changes. The greys are extremely different than us in appearance. For this reason I do not feel they are a future version of us. None of our changes have ever been that drastic.
They have all the signs of being from a very different place where gravity is low and sunlight is not available. The only theory that I would consider would involve them being a alternate race that developed below the surface underground it would explain the pale skin and large eyes. Both would be something you would expect from such a dark environment.
but I don't really lean that direction either.