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Were the Roswell visitors from future Earth?

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posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by ladyjo
Hi All.

I'm new..this is my first post.

In respects to if Grays are indeed us in the future, why they look so completely different. Couldn't it be entirely possible that they've been genetically modified? I mean, humans have been experimenting with crossing different species, cloning cows, sheep, perhaps at some point in the future humans have been crossbred with another species (an ant?) that resulted in what we see in the Gray aliens. ???

Just a thought.


Off course they could. Read the post above your own. We are discussing that possibilty.




posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by ladyjo
Hi All.

I'm new..this is my first post.

In respects to if Grays are indeed us in the future, why they look so completely different. Couldn't it be entirely possible that they've been genetically modified?


Hi nice to have you join us, its kind of nervous making that first post so I would like to say thanks for making it here.


You know they are probably a bit of both, genetic manipulation and evolution. Humans are already messing with embryos genetics to try and create the perfect baby so whos to say in 50,000 years what genes we have added and taken out. Thing is environment and evolution play just as big a part is a species development but Im guessing the ability to time travel will put immense pressure on the body, who knows what thay will do to the skeleton,heart and brain?? Anyone whos had a bad astral trip will know what I mean



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 04:39 PM
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Oh I am loving this discussion...kudos to you all

Here's a thought...were these visitors in 1947 male or female?

I'm thinking if I was genetically modified to look like that I'd be heading back in time to fix it and maybe put a few women on the design team



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 04:40 PM
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Whether you want to or not.






This is completely true.



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by one2many
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Oh I am loving this discussion...kudos to you all

Here's a thought...were these visitors in 1947 male or female?

I'm thinking if I was genetically modified to look like that I'd be heading back in time to fix it and maybe put a few women on the design team



Yes who on Earth would allow themselves to be genetically modified to look like THAT!!! Sack the grey genetic technician who mixed the tubes up.

If they were greys I think its accepted they are neither, if they were us from the future I have no idea. Probably a mixed crew.

[edit on 23-3-2009 by Mr Green]



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Green

Originally posted by one2many
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Oh I am loving this discussion...kudos to you all

Here's a thought...were these visitors in 1947 male or female?

I'm thinking if I was genetically modified to look like that I'd be heading back in time to fix it and maybe put a few women on the design team



Yes who on Earth would allow themselves to be genetically modified to look like THAT!!! Sack the grey genetic technician who mixed the tubes up.

If they were greys I think its accepted they are neither, if they were us from the future I have no idea. Probably a mixed crew.

[edit on 23-3-2009 by Mr Green]


hehe...I'm thinking predominately women..frustrated 27 yr old women looking to improve their lot in life and perhaps make the pickings a lil more tasty



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 04:52 PM
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Originally posted by organism315
What if the reason that they came back was not to prevent Nuclear weapon (or bio/chem for that matter) exchange, but rather, because they have so over-engineered themselves (ourselves), that they have NO HOPE of continuing down their time-line because they're infertile, and the few of them that remained (in that future) decided to sacrifice themselves (and their time-line) in order to create a new time-line where humans are taught (guided) to live in balance with nature, without genetic manipulation, with faith in our natural beauty and strengths?


Specualtion of course, but it is possible, I agree.



But, of course, this is our only known time-line, and we're headed down the same path of self-destruction as them (us). Which simply proves, to me, a theory that I've had since childhood. That is; Humans are (mostly) selfish, stupid, violent, sex-maniacs with a death-wish. The healthy people have accepted this about themselves, and turned to more subtle and meaningful attributes, like grace, thoughtfulness, and responsibility. Turns out, Freud was pretty much spot-on.


You don't need Freud for that thought. The down-path or self-destruction them is prevalent in all history books. The Romans wrote about it too.
At the right age and/or with the right mind you will loo upon your man as monsters. Apparently you were one of the early ones. I was on of those darkminded kids too.

.....


I hope you all understand that I am saying this with the greatest humility and honor for my descendants and ancestors. We are the human race, and right now, we are losing because most people are not learning enough to keep up with change. So, change will catch them off-guard, which leaves me back to that awful theory about humans. And, we logically understand the reasoning behind the OPs initial theory. May God, help us.

Incurably Irish, in Liberty, by God,
O-315



A large portion ofus humans are not learning fast enough but some part is, and I am one of those that think that in our lowest moments we can reach our highest peaks. God is our consciousness, proof of what we can do.
Learn-Teach-Organize-Act


[edit on 23-3-2009 by Pjotr]



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 04:55 PM
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I totally agree with you on the project Camelot site, it's a joke and people like Dan bushhank or whatever are so eager to exploit there new found fame its sick.

just watch a video of him trying to explain about some "time gate" "looking glass" technology ridiculous! you could tell him any crap and he would be like"yeah i new all about the quantum genetic computer enabled extra artificially intelligent being's years ago I WAS IN THE LOOP" rubbish!!!


Im going to have to read their site a bit more, but the article under the one in the OP was about a dark sun coming . They do provide references for all their claims which seems to be more than some sites do. I wonder if its just Camelot that push this Looking Glass technology? Also the fact they dont make any money out of this seemed a good thing to me.



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 05:01 PM
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hehe...I'm thinking predominately women..frustrated 27 yr old women looking to improve their lot in life and perhaps make the pickings a lil more tasty


hey no sexist remarks on my thread

plenty of frustrated men out there wanting to improve their pickings, plus NO woman is going to look at a future man that looked like that is she , thats probably why they are a dying race lol All the men are small and bald and pretty ugly.

Miss Green


(Im joking with you here OK...no offense)



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Green
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hehe...I'm thinking predominately women..frustrated 27 yr old women looking to improve their lot in life and perhaps make the pickings a lil more tasty


hey no sexist remarks on my thread

plenty of frustrated men out there wanting to improve their pickings, plus NO woman is going to look at a future man that looked like that is she , thats probably why they are a dying race lol All the men are small and bald and pretty ugly.

Miss Green


(Im joking with you here OK...no offense)


lol none taken, tis a funny thought...a shipload of pissed off "future singles" heading off to 'fix it'...I gotta go but I will be watching this thread....



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by QueenofWeird
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Earth species that live in no light conditions have no eyes at all (anymore). Then again extrapolating things from here to another planet, is just plain guessing.


They seem to have eyes. But think of it. Suppose you had to live underground for generations with other light conditions. The blackness of the eyes could be a protective layer.

The idea is that when they learned about a coming disaster after the war (when they met the 'Greys) and they (Majestic 12/Illuminaty) began digging shelters all over the world, they discoverd thousands of years old living environments in the Earth, supposedly the Et's/greys living environments. They learned that Et's have been here for a very long time.

Just watch the overview video (top of list video's) on Camelot.org to get the full story of what they think is true.
The greys from the future could be mix of us and them. Just like we could be a mix of whatever.



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 06:41 PM
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the GRAYS are not us... they have been known to be liars........and look nothing like us.. not to mention they eat by spreading enzymes on there skin............ i dont care how evolved we get... we would never need to eat thru our skin!!!(this explanes the sulphur smell by many abductees as the skin also excretes waste YUCK!!!!!) SO no they are no your brothers nor our freinds.. they are using us for dna and working for someone else..... they are not OUR FREINDS



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by Donnie Darko

They ARE related to us, but they're so devolved living underground that they look very strange. Sort of like Gollum in Lord of the Rings.

We both have our origin in the Lyra constellation.


All of mankind IS related


There is NOT a living Soul that originally originates from Terra (Earth) and it shoudn't matter if we are decendents of starsytems like Andromeda, Zeta Reticula, Lyra, Pleiades, Draconia, Orion etc

In the Veda's (India) is written about a groep called Kimpurusas (kim = is it? - purasus = human).

Human are human, we are an interstellar race, humans have genes of 22 different races. We are geneticly modified and carry the Royal Crown of the Universe because we hold information of so many species in our DNA.

Shoudn't we just look at everything that binds us, instead of everything that's different bewteen us?

All the information is here on Earth and has been for hunderdthousands of years, now we live in a time were it's possible to add all this info togehter to see the bigger picture ..... IF we stop focussing on the differences that is ......

Arrogance is the greatest weakness of mankind and responsible for the fall of many cultures ....



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 07:02 PM
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Grey's are not human, they do not have sex organs to reproduce. They are cloned biological entities kind of like an android. They could be working with the humans in the future, who knows?



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by survival
Whether you want to or not.






This is completely true.


Well lets look at the references then for this Project Camelots claim the 1947 crash was future humans.



This information has been reported by Dan Burisch. See our interviews page and also Dan Burisch's website.
Not all visitors are time travelers. There are a great many races currently visiting this planet; many of these are genuine extraterrestrials. Reported numbers vary, but the respected witness Sgt. Clifford Stone, for example, says he knew of 57. Other witnesses have reported numbers of a similar order of magnitude.
The motivations of the visitors are likely to vary as much as human agendas do. We can safely assume that some are benevolent and altruistic; some are evil and self-serving; and others may have agendas we can only guess at and may be beyond human understanding.

According to Burisch, some of the subsequent visitors were future humans who were (at that future time) based on other planets, and no longer on the future Earth.


This matter is complex. According to Burisch, some future humans are benevolent, while others are actually seeking to ensure that history is not changed; see note 23 below.
Dan Burisch has made detailed technical drawings, from memory, of the 'Looking Glass' device he was familiar with. We'll publish these as soon as we have clearance. Henry Deacon has said that he never worked with or encountered the form of Looking Glass that Burisch described, and therefore is not in a position to confirm it.
Bill Hamilton described the Looking Glass in some detail on this page of his website. (Note: the image shown is not the real thing; this is taken from the movie The Time Machine.) The text is also reproduced here.


Above are the references they use to back the claim up in the OP. Sgt. Clifford Stone is referenced to, using his knowledge of 57 races, which I do not doubt at all.

They say some are evil(STS- service to self, a phrase I keep coming across in my ET travels but really what does this actually mean?) , some are good ETs....make sense.

Some of our visitors are no longer based on Earth , they come from future planets.....

Some time visitors come to PREVENT time lines from being altered.

Yes all very good but are these scientific references...do the above back up completely that Roswell was us from the future?



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 07:30 PM
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The Zeta Reticuli Civilization


We'd now like to talk about the entities that you know of as the Zeta Reticuli. The physical characteristics of the Zeta Reticuli that you are already aware of is 3-1/2 to 4-1/2 to, in some cases, 5 feet tall, generally bald, frail-looking, larger-headed in proportion to the body, large eyes that seem to have no lid, very small (if any) nose, mouth and ears. We have given you the story about the Zeta Reticuli. To encapsulate it here, they were a civilization very much like you who went on a path of (in some ways) self-destruction, a specie crisis. They caught it before they were annihilated. However, they found themselves sterile. They performed genetic engineering, cloning, etc. to change their species and so you have the Zeta Reticuli you see today.
We will tell you that the base genetics of the Zeta Reticuli before they went through their species crisis and transformation was that of human-type Vegan heritage. Their civilization, when it went through the change, required them to alter their body structure into what they are now. This accounts for one of the reasons why they are here and interested in your genetics, because they are looking for an aspect of their original genetics to reinsert into themselves because of what they perceive they've done wrong during their transformation - namely, breeding out emotions. If they were to time-travel, which they can do, and go back to their past, they would only be gathering genetic data before their crisis. To them, that genetic data is inferior; they do not want that. They look to other races who have Vegan forefathers for some of the Vegan DNA that has been adapted through experience to a more expanded state of being. Your planet is one of the places. There are Vegan codes active here, and at this point just about everyone on your planet carries both the Lyran and Vegan codes. You've intermixed so well. When they are taking genetic samples from you, they are looking mostly for Vegan (but some Lyran) genetic codes that have been strengthened and adapted from their original state on Vega millennia ago. So this is why, to them, you are so important - because you carry locked in the cells of your body what they think is their only future. You on Earth, more than anything else, have served as a genetic repository, a genetic storehouse for the galactic universe, for your galactic family. In some ways you've been earning interest on this DNA you've been storing, because it's a lot more valuable now than it has been in the past. Individuals are now coming back to explore that greater value and that is what the Zeta Reticuli are doing.


I came across the above while searching for another thread on the Sirians, this information says they are not us, and although they can time travel they are still not us. We are to them more of a genetic store for their survival.

If they are from Zeta Reticulim how do people even know this as truth? Thats what I cant understand who says this is true and how do they know...have they been to ZR?



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 07:38 PM
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It is very hard to tell if they are us from the future or not.

Many people know now that Roswell was indeed some type of ET crash. I suppose all will be revealed in due time.

As per the Grey's, many of them are getting a bad rap because not all of them are biological clones.. I have actually come to feel a deep sadness for their races manipulation, I do not fully blame them all for some of their misperceived actions. There are different types of them from different places, and perhaps different times, we need to be very careful where we point our fingers.

I am quite sure there are future humans out there, whether or not that was the Roswell incident remains to be fully understood.

We are living in a time of revealing, all in due time....

Be In Peace.



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 09:17 PM
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Perhaps lengthy time in space or space time without gravity would effect how a human being would look after several years. Muscle atrophy could be the cause. I've always had a feeling that the visitors we have had are not from "somewhere else", but from our own making..... Just a thought.



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 09:51 PM
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nice theory.
How is it plausible to you OP ? I'd really like to know how it came to your mind.
IMO the Roswell incident is the turning point of all military research. There was a "before" and an "after" Roswell, and the "after" looks much promising if we think about all the strange lights we've seen in the last 50 years or so. I mean, promising for "them"



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 10:09 PM
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Great post again.
From what i can figure out the Greys are from the future but there motive was not as they would have told. Remeber that the Greys are Masters of deciption.
I would put forward to all that the motive may have been to stop something that was to destroy there control. That being one of the Greys fears.
Live long and prosper.
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