Teens Could Spend 25 Years in Prison for Allegedly Torturing Cat, Setting It on Fire

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posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
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Cats on the other hand have personality, can love and hate different things and in all honesty have opinions about things.
~Keeper


Yes. And their loyalty lies in those who currently feed them.
So much for being magnificent creatures.




posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:11 PM
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I guess you just don't know cats, if you ever have one your opinion of them would change.
People that say they don't like cats just never met a cat they liked.
I don't like a lot of people, but a lot of people I do like.

I have 7 cats, so I know cats pretty good.

eldard, I dare you to get to know a friendly cat and still not like it, it can't be done.


25 years? A bit long? Maybe, Maybe not.
Perhaps if the sentences were harsh, idiots would think twice. (but idiots like that don't think), better those folks be put away methinks. I don't need punks like that sharing a sidewalk with me.
Imagine, someone breaking into your house, which is bad enough, then they cruelly as possible kill your pet?!

What a kick in the teeth!


If it was my pet I would think 25 years would not be enough!


[edit on 22-3-2009 by Toadmund]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:27 PM
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Good. If this was done to a human, people would be screaming for their deaths.

Animals need more protection.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by Seany
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The double bstandard in this room is simply amazing

The whole mortgage bailout makes you mad as hell,

Im Not Gonna Pay My Neighbours Mortgage

so a HUMAN family gets booted into the street, children included

Two retards burn a cat (i have pets , it was dumb) and you wanna burn them, send them away for 25 yrs,

you people are messed up

Double standard?
You're equating sacrificing money to people who got in that position because of their own stupidity and naivety, to hoping the "retards" get what they dished out?



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:40 PM
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That's pretty sick, but 25 years is too much...
I'd say the punishment should include some mental help, but 25 years in prison for killing a cat is insane... People have committed murder or child rape and not gotten that much time.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by _Phoenix_
It was a baby

it was a baby.

Would your tone change? A baby isn't exactly the most clever thing around, does that make their life less worthy than an adult? If not. Why would a cat be less worthy?


Our laws aren't about any other creatures but humans.
What's the difference between a cat and a bee? They're both living things.
Should you get 25 years for killing a bee?
What about a fish? Should fishing be illegal?

These laws - HUMAN laws, exist to ensure the safety of humans.
We feel compassion for animals that are more like us - this is an egotistical thing, that all life forms that are similar to us deserve to live while others (say a fish or an insect) are allowed to die.


What if those same people had gone into the house and killed a mouse (not a pet)? There would be no discussion of illegal activity (except breaking and entering).
Is a mouse more worthy of life than a cat?

It doesn't matter, that's not what our laws are concerned with, only ensuring human safety.
And 25 years for killing a cat is crazy.
As crazy as it would be for a mouse or any other animal.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:52 PM
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The 25 years is just the total of max sentences from the criminal charges of second-degree arson, second-degree burglary and aggravated animal cruel. The animal cruelty is really the least of their problems. Both suspects were recently charged with burglary and assault in an unrelated incident in the same building. They broke into an apartment and beating the sleeping tenant with a cane while they demanded money. So please excuse me if I don't get all teary eyed for these guys. Reap what you sow.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 07:02 PM
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Sick freaks. I say eye for an eye. Lets set them on fire and see how they like it. There should be absolutely no compassion for people like this. If evil exists, this is it. An act such as this could only be performed by the most evil of souls. I hope they throw the fire at these guys. I hope they rot in jail with massive cat lovers as cell mates. They deserve to be tortured slowly and painfully to death over the rest of their life. No mercy.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 07:17 PM
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Just noticed there was no link to this news story, so here you guys go:

Fox News report: Teens Could Get 25 Years...


(Sorry it's FOX - but it's the most comprehensive article I could find.)



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 07:28 PM
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they would get less time for murder... this is ridiculus

sorry peta...its a cat, i dont think they should get off scott free for this but 25 yrs....seriously

u get less time for rape for gods sake!!!!!

this is asinine for so many reasons



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 07:31 PM
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exactly..if anyone saw what i did to the 10 crappies i pulled throug the ice last weekend id be labeled charles manson for gods sake..

they were alive when i started to fillet them..................



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 08:15 PM
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If this ridiculous sentence flies, then I think it's only fair that "pet parents" of dogs (namely, people who own massive vicious breeds) be given identical sentencing when their beloved and harmless Cujo is running about sans leash in a reisdetial area...(you know, getting his workout on cause he's just a human with fur) and mauls an innocent child or old lady working in her yard. I have a cat too, and I love cats, but I am sorry, the punishment does not fit the crime here. It would seem more logical for the court to sentence them to 2 years of mandatory community service at a local animal shelter and some counseling as well.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 08:17 PM
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They won't be put in jail for 25 years, it's simply the maximum sentence for the several charges been brought against them. They were also involved in a seperate B&E where they assaulted the resident with a weapon and demanded money, so they are on those charges as well.

~Keeper



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 08:21 PM
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Yep these fools are gonna go to jail and get passed round like currency, Maybe they shouldnt get 25 years, it does clog up the system. I have a much better idea, Beat them almost to death poor lighter fluid on them and light it. If they survive good for them im sure they wont do that again. If they die from it then meh no big deal just another couple of inbred retarded teenagers that humanity really doesnt need.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by TruthParadox
reply to post by Dark Jester
 


That's pretty sick, but 25 years is too much...
I'd say the punishment should include some mental help, but 25 years in prison for killing a cat is insane... People have committed murder or child rape and not gotten that much time.


So true. People who cry, "draw and quarter them!" whenever an animal is involved scare me deeply. I can almost sense that they have little if any regard for human beings. Please don't get me wrong I care about animals too, but I'd never put my cat before my children, or even my neighbor's children, as much as I dislike being around them. I'm sorry.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 08:35 PM
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I don't know why I get so irritated when people don't bother to read the article, I suppose I should just let it go.

They did NOT get 25 years. That is the MAXIMUM sentence they can get for the charges brought against them. They are NOT only on charges of animal cruelty, there ARE other charges involved. So despite the title, no, its not just for torturing a cat, and I don't see why a maximum sentence of 25 years is so horrible, knowing full well they will be very little chance of them getting the maximum sentence. I would bet they get less than half of it. IF they get found guilty, and IF they took the max 25 years, then you can come in here and cry about how that is unfair because all they did was set fire to an animal and do some damage to an apartment, that they happened to break and enter to get into. Poor kids, they sound like such upstanding young men too.

If someone did this to my dog, they better hope the law catches them before I do. I love my dog, despite it being "just an animal" and if someone did that to her, I would not feel the least bit bad about breaking a few of their ribs and nose, maybe even throw a jaw in there. Just because it is "just an animal" does not mean that I do not love said animal.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 08:38 PM
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Were it me making decisions, I would have set them on fire, and then if they weren't cremated, I'd lock them up in solitary.

Lucky for them, I'll probably never meet them.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 09:34 PM
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All too often people seem to disapprove of the notion that Animals have as much value as Humans. I can only state that such individuals have most likely never known the true companionship, unbridled loyalty, and downright love you feel when a pet is brought into the family.

An old American adage, and one which proved to be even more so prevalent in the Herding towns of the Wild West, was that you NEVER kill or hurt another Man's Dog. To do so, you were asking for little pity when the Owner gave you a nice sock to the face, or simply shot you dead.

As one of my Older Southern friends put it: "There are only two times in life that you ever sucker punch another man, and that is either when you catch him cheating with your wife, or he hurts your dog".



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 09:45 PM
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They should be required to go to the local animal shelter and clean litter boxes and cages and whatever gross job they might have for them for 25,000 hours each. I don't want to have to support these bums for 25 years.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 09:46 PM
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I adore cats, I have had five of them, two currently. They are my favorite
animals, but humans are more important. NOTHING justifies putting teens
in prison for 25 years.. not burglary, not animal cruelty, not murder, not
terrorism, not torture.. nothing.

No child should ever be tried as an adult, you know why? Because they are
NOT ADULTS!. Every child should have the right of a second chance, and a
third chance, and a fourth chance.. when he becomes an adult it becomes
different, but as long as he's not an adult, he deserves to be forgiven and
to be granted new chances.

I would rather lock up the judge and the lawyers that trial a child as an
adult, than send the child to prison for even a single year.

How heartless does a person have to be to find 25 years for a child that
allegedly burned a cat, regardless of having broken into a home, justifiable?
No child ever deserves to go to prison, regardless of its crimes.. because
people don't get better in prison, they get worse. Prison turns light criminals
into heavy criminals, they are breeding places of evil. There are better
ways to help a teen criminal rehabilitate.

You people should be ashamed of yourself. All of you should spend a year
in your beloved american prisons, see how you feel about it then. I can
guarantee that your outlook will have completely changed, maybe then you
come to your senses. Because these places are true hell holes..

This forum seems to show Americans off as heartless and twisted, you all
seem to think love, compassion, solidarity and understanding to be works
of the devil.

And you call yourselves a Christian nation, pah.

[edit on (22/3/09) by Wehali]





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