posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 04:20 PM
reply to post by chris3340
miracles were to drastic to be coincidence
Maybe your RE teacher needs to speak with your maths teacher about statistical probability over time (i.e. the chance of a million monkeys producing s
random string of characters in iambicpentamiter is very low if your evaluate a single days work, however given an endless amount of time they will
produce the complete works of shakespear) - In the case of miraculous events of course at certain times highly unlikely things happened, the world
would be far stranger if nothing unlikely ever happened. -The amount of people who have tried to command nature through our history it was bound to
happen that some people would command just as it was going to change anyway, So when Joan commanded the wind to change direction and it did -does this
really have to be the workd of god? Of course not.
This leaves us with the few impossible things which have happened in the christian tradition, there actually aren't very many of these at all - of
course it is well known that returning from the dead is fairly common if you accept a iron age version of death -people wake from Comas all the time,
in fact it was common practice to return after 3days to check anyone who had been hung or crusified was still dead. Almost all of the highly
impressive things done as miraculous can be boiled down into a fairly simple practical event, however to what degree we have the REAL story of events
is impossible to know so we can't say for sure if any of them are miraculous.
One thing is for sure the stories have changed since their first telling, we don't know if Jesus changed them chemical makeup of the Water to make it
contain ethanol or if maybe the story got out of hand and confused when the people who attended told people 'It was looking like a disaster but then
Jesus said, don't be silly drink the water and have fun -we don't need wine to have fun!' or who knows maybe Jesus put something in the jug? maybe
his knowledge of Herbs he picked up in the first 30 years of his life taugh him about something you could dissolve in water to get a drunk like
The point is, we don't have a very accurate account of how events happened surrounding these 'miraculous' happenstance so we can't judge them
correctly. As you were very sharp to point out, indeed ALL religion has attributed lucky events to their deity, hehe it's human nature, infact its
more than that it's logical nessesity - sometimes crazy and random things will happen, they might be totally unrepeatable or highly unlikely thus
it's not worth changing the way you interact with the world to account for them, yet they must be explained -before complex science and scientific
method could be invented to explain these things away with statistics and logic we had to have something, so God was the cause of otherwise terribly
confusing things -thus no one needed waste time trying to work them out or reproduce the effects, it was just accepted you couldn't.
Just because people didn't understand how the world worked then doesn't mean we should accept their outdated conclusions - 2000 years ago what was
amazing to them wouldn't even make a child smile now, science has come a very long way -until god does something really impressive which science
can't explain away rationally then miraculous events are nothing more than hearsay. If a being like god really wanted to prove his existence he
would lean down and tell me (and everyone else, maybe its every humans 10th birthday even -hehe he might even tell us WHY he bothered to make us)
quite clearly so i could understand maybe using visual aids (i'm talkin wide screen 3d projection not a tree on fire) exactly what the deal was, that
he doesn't do this we can only guess if he IS up there he isn't going to be telling us about it, i'm sure he doesn't do things by half messures -
thus as he didn't to anything to let us know clearly and i just don't think leaving it confused like it is serves any purpose, hehe unless he likes
war of course.