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More U.S. police using gunfire detection system

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posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 12:51 AM
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More U.S. police using gunfire detection system


news.yahoo.com

EAST PALO ALTO, Calif. - It happened moments after a police sergeant blasted a shot into a sand-filled barrel to test this city's expanded gunfire tracking system.

...a system of strategically placed acoustic sensors linked to a computer designed to help police locate gunfire...

..."You hear a gunshot, and naively you think it helps the cops", Morgan said. "You're sending a lot of cops on chases, but not necessarily catching a lot of people committing crimes."
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posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 12:51 AM
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I imagined technology like this not too long ago. . .and now it's real! Sure, it's probably a useful asset to police in more crowded cities, with gang-related shootings ocurring frequently, but in out-lying areas, where the typical American is only plinking & target shooting or hunting, won't this system cause an unnecessary burden on police resources?

Do you see it as a good thing, assisting in crime-reduction? Or just more 'Big Brother' type automated surveillance?

There are already tons of video cameras installed in cities around the country, and now this 'gunshot-detection' alert mechanism going into place, what's next?

news.yahoo.com
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posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 01:07 AM
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This is comical.

So then all someone has to do is get several M80's (M60s or other standard "pop" firecrackers) and they can create a timed diversion in one or even several locations. While the diversion has taken place, part or most of the local police force could be too busy for them to notice a well planned crime going on in the next neighborhood over.

This system is flawed and only gives a false sense of security.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 01:23 AM
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I am a shooter and gun owner and am all for the installation of gunfire tracking systems every city in the US. (i live in a rural area.)

I also believe they should be linked to CCTV camera systems so that the shooters will be photographed as they leave the area and identified.
they can then be jailed for a long time.

This will cut the number of gun crimes and take the pressure off the legal noncriminal gun owners.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 01:31 AM
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I guess so! Good point. Star!
4th of July will have this system working overtime, then, huh?



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 01:37 AM
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Real good idea there, ANNE, Star!
With all the killing sprees involving random shootings, you're right; this tech could
really deter the next person bent on a homicidal killing frenzy!

I'll look out for more info regarding the marriage of these two systems, and post what I find.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:06 AM
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I've heard that systems like this have the ability to tell the difference between fireworks and gunshots in most cases. Usually I have a serious issue with government monitoring systems, but I have no problem with this system.

There is little reason you would fire a gun in an urban setting unless you are either in trouble or causing trouble. Maybe the police will actually manage to do something useful for once instead of just harassing people going 10 over the speed limit.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:25 AM
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It would also work on other levels because if a man is hunting endangered species then the goverment will have the picture of this.

I am a shooter myself although i specialise in air arms as apose to firearms and i know how small i .22 cal pellet is. This would leave better reason to equip the weapon with the device.

Im not sure about over in america but in England every weapon is regestered and known.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:45 AM
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cue hardened criminals scambling to aquire top quality suppersor and subsonic ammo technology



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:52 AM
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Star!
I know I can usually tell the dif between firecrackers & gunshots! I didn't know the system could.

Yeah, urban areas shouldn't have much gunfire...but they do!



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:00 AM
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Thanks for England info. Star!

Hey- I still love plinking with my old Crossman 760 BB/pellet gun! Just that I gotta pump & pump for each shot, but very fun!
So I let my nephews pump it!


Here in the U.S., guns are supposed to be registered, if purchased from a store; but not personal sales, or gun shows, etc...not sure which state's laws are more restrictive than other states, but I interpret the 2nd Amendment as the right to bear arms 'shall NOT be infringed'...like so many others do! (or is it the right to keep and arm bears?)



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:05 AM
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Man, it's good to hear from you, ape, Star!

Yeah, they'll sshhush up that muzzle, huh? You an old-school 'tomato canner' like me? And re-load with half-loads? just kiddin. But that's exactly what I'd expect from an ignorant ape!



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:06 AM
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Originally posted by chris3340
Im not sure about over in america but in England every weapon is regestered and known.


ROFLMAO - that is so funny it hurts

there are thousands of unregistered firearms in criminal hands , and more again

just look at the number of fireams that are recovered in raids / amnesty operations etc etc

plus there are frigtening numbers of WWII and earlier ` soveniers ` held by ex service men or collectors

a freind of mine used to work in home office foresnsics and just in thier labs ` catchment area ` [ approx 1.75 million people ] they recieved over 70 firearms per year from relatives of recently deceased military veterans who rang up to explain ` my father died last week and while sorting his effects i found a gun , can you come deal with it ` and many were still in 100% servicable condition - having been cleaned and maintained

and dont get me started on the number of MOD weapons ` unnacounted for `



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:10 AM
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Well maby the US should make a huge amount of paperwork.

My friend applied for his shotgun certificate and the licence to own one and he said;

"If you are going to rob a bank its not worth it after you have filled out the paperwork"

huge amounts of paperwork CAN put us off very easily.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:11 AM
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DARPA has been developing a similar concept for the military since 2003.

The "Boomerang" System.

Basically it's a sensory array of 7 directional microphones attached to the rear of a vehicle that detect the muzzle blast and the supersonic shock wave from a bullet.
Which is then translated into a clock-face display that tells soldiers the direction and elevation of a shot fired at them.

Another case of military technology finding a useful application in the civilian world.

[edit on 22/3/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:35 AM
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The US navy has worked on a anti sniper system that takes a system like The "Boomerang" System. and adds it to a gun mount with a 7.62 minigun that automaticly targeted anyone firing near the system.

The only problem was friendly fire. Any friendly dismounted troops had to be using suppressed weapons or THEY would become targets,



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 02:07 PM
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well it was bound to happen realy.

they should just set up on next to another and then fire a gun they they will just blow eachother up while we sit back and watch them burn.

i dought this bullet detection thing will lift off. there are too many faults for them to allow it. and it would cancle our right to privacy.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 02:19 PM
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What i wonder is wich politician owns stock in the company that made this possible?
Or owns the company that installs and maintains them?
Like a few people said, just a matter of time before they set off m80s on the other end of town to set up a wild goose chase, or distraction.
And if that dont work, just drive over the other side of town and pop off a few shots out the window of your car with any handgun, while your co-conspirators are stickin up a bank....
And the other part they fail to think of is how many gun crimes go on without a shot being fired?
Not all gun crime has gunshots.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 02:42 PM
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yes u make a very good point. it wont help to reduce crime.

some robbers can rob a bank with a gun thats not loaded.

this detection system wont help improove things...

if the goverments have any sence they should look at our topics, they could learn alot



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 02:52 PM
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Ha! Im sure they are.
And they arent stupid, they know it will have limited impact, thats why im wondering whos money interest pushed these things through.
If i invented something that would have a 50% success rate, and wanted the local, or nations government to buy it, Id get laughed at.
So im sure its an inside contract, or someones cousin, thats makin all the loot on this one!



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