Is Knowledge of Conscious Reality the Real Conspiracy?, page 1/

Is this the grand conspiracy and everything else is born of our thoughts being manipulated?



Is knowledge of conscious reality behind secret societies

Is all the fear mongering actually creating the very thing we fear?

If we live in a universe literally created by our own consciousness and this is the knowledge that the secret societies have been concealing through the ages. Are we all being manipulated, programed to create the reality that they want. We already know that the MSM delivers only specific news. Is it possible that all the reasons why places like ATS thrive, the leaks the supposed mistakes constantly fueling our suspisions and driving our fears, are really done intentionaly, specificaly to shape reality to their design.

Have we been conditioned to believe that we are really slaves to there twisted system of corruption and manipulation, and that events such as the current economic crisis are done by the design of that twisted system to keep us enslaved and allow them to rule. This is the topic of a great many thread here. I mention that because until now this is what I believed also, but now I question that. Why does the Bilderberg group appear to meet secretly but yet we know where, when, and who. They could really hide if it suited them. Is it simply to create fear and suspision?

Is the real secret that we are in control? That our collective consciousness creates reality and has the power to shape it?

Could this be what they are afraid of? That if we found out what our true capabilities are we could free ourselves of the prison that we ourselves have created through their manipulation of our thoughts with information programing to keep us thinking negatively?

Is this a forgotten knowledge that was carefully and methodically removed from our civilization as a means of control?


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[edit on 3/22/2009 by AlienChaser]

reply to post by AlienChaser

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I enjoyed your post!
The video seems to be saying that consciousness creates this reality that we experience. However are we not then creating the very conditioning that conditions us? How does this work in an individual way, as opposed to in the collective sense if my “creating” view of the world changes does the world change accordingly?
In a different sort of way this does make sense. If we look at an individual who perhaps has broken free of this conditioned way of thinking and views the world from a different perspective then for him indeed the world has changed. The question is does the world change objectively? What if he shares his new perspective with others and becomes an enlightened teacher who then goes on to change society and the way we live is this the same thing? This has nothing to do with quantum physics and the creation of matter of course which I suspect is still an unfinished story and that there may yet may be many twists and turns.

reply to post by AlienChaser

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I think this is a really interesting post, and I have come to similar conclusions myself. I would answer yes to almost all of your questions... yes, fearmongering is creating the very thing we we fear, not just fearmongering from the MSM or PTB, but also our own. Yes, the real secret is that we are in control - that we have the power to shape our reality. Yes, this is what *they* are afraid of (but I think most ordinary people are afraid of that too... what enormous responsibility if true, right?). Yes, the know-how to access this power is forgotten knowledge, probably removed as a means of control...

...I would agree with almost everything except the first question: Is knowledge of conscious reality behind secret societies?

Personally, I think people here give secret societies (at least the ones they know about) waaaaayy too much credit. I think that knowledge of the true nature of reality was probably behind the ancient mysteries and esoteric mysticism, but I don't think known secret societies are any more privy to this knowledge than we are... well, okay, maybe they are a little - but only after much study and contemplation, which you can do too if so inclined and disciplined. And that is the point: most secret societies were/are made up of regular people with an interest or fascination or compulsive pull towards knowing the unknown, exploring mysteries, seeking power (be it external or internal) and things of that nature. People kind of like me, and probably like you too. In fact, I'd say people like the vast majority that visit this particular forum, or the paranormal or philosophy or religion forums. The only difference (or not) is they decided to be hands on rather than merely talk or think about it, and thought it'd be cool to form a group to share their findings/beliefs/ideas/philosophies with... power in numbers and all that (and also were more often than not likely trying to emulate or recreate the ancient mysteries).

I really don't understand this demonization of "secret societies" like they aren't comprised of ordinary people - and sometimes literally, what with the people who believe a lot of them are not human. It's bizarre, to me at any rate. And I think focusing on that is counterproductive, serving only to keep you in a powerless state.

reply to post by kingdogol

Sorry but I can't find it anywhere but youtube, (future youtube censorship alert) Anyway Anyway the actuall video is called 25-666 Decoding History Insights to Reality of the Matrix And it is part 25 of a whole movie put out in about 10 minute clips. all of which you would like.

If I do find it somewhere else I'll let you know, and I am this [] close to buying a stream ripper because of things like this and the vulnerability of these movies to disappear from the web.

reply to post by Nameless Hussy

not just fearmongering from the MSM or PTB, but also our own. Yes, the real secret is that we are in control - that we have the power to shape our reality. Yes, this is what *they* are afraid of (but I think most ordinary people are afraid of that too... what enormous responsibility if true, right?).

I have been looking at this for a long time but only recently truly began to dig deep into consciousness and thought. Mind and brain. the connectivity of reality. I recently watched The Esoteric Agenda and started to look at things differently. The realization that I'm not just a rat in a cage, that there is more to it. Can you imagine if everyone aspired to tap into ourselves, What if it were a class at school? Yes that is what they are afraid of. and this is why I give the secret societies that much credit. I think that their ranks (at least at the top) are very practiced and in tune with themselves. Intentionally keeping the secret from the common person in order to stay in control. This is the way they want it. They truly have the world at their feet.

The manufacturing of Fear is important to keep us docile and clouded. Fear resonates a lower frequency and therefore offers far less chances for us to acheive contact with the universal consciousness.

Everyone is brainwashed and hypnotzed. We are bombarded with "programing" at every turn. Fear of change keeps us down also.

The pulse of the earth is measured and increased I believe in the 90's, It will peak in 2012. This ties the enlightenment theories together. Believe what you want about whats coming but the frerquency of earths pulse is scientificly measured to be increasing. In theory this should at least make it easier for humans to gain some level of enlightenment. if it is not thrust on us.

The exponential increasing of the controls over us and the barriers on the path are necessary to counteract our regaining the truth. and the PTB (secret societies) are desperate to keep us in the lie.

I think I'm rambling....

P.S. I checked out your thread mentioned above. You belong here.

Yes, the change is in each of us. changing my own thaought does wonders for me, but it's hard. It's hard as a direct result of our society and THIS is where the conspiracy lies.

We are forced to remain focused on our fears and worries. All the time, everywhere. Now I know there is the duality but this is different. This fear is being orchestrated and pushed on us. It has been this way for a very long time hundreds if not thousands of years of the intentional suppression consciousness, so many don't even suspect it and would sooner laugh at you for suggesting the idea than quietly meditate on it for a while. Generations have grown up being taught the lie and passing it down. The internet has been a catalyst for discovery because some of the suppressed knowledge is creeping out there, and people can access it. Mabey that's why Rothschild said the internet is the biggest threat to our security, and mabey by our he meant their.

I too believe this is ancient knowledge. We are not discovering anything we are re-covering. What happened??

Is it really possible that the learned ancients simply decided to change our view of time (see, natural time) To remove us from this enlightenment and enslave us to the clock, to the control of the church, to the dollar?

No. this treasure has been systematicly eliminated until the knowledge has faded through the ages. I think this is the greatest threat of a world government and the new world order. It will provide the mechanism to fully eradicate the knowledge of our consciousness and leave us with only that which we are taught by "approved" educational programing. In only a few generations the idea of conscious reality could literally be wiped out.

Why would a secret society of elite bankers and eugenists want such a thing??
CONTROL!
Plain and simple. There are no doubt many reasons but but the mother of them all is control. We are in a matrix of sorts, not Neos per say but still. The only real freedom we do have is within us. On the days when I am immersed I am at peace and I usually can't tell when I have closed myself off until I open up again. I am sure that we have the ability within us now to perform just as the aliens of Hollywood do. telepathy, telekenisis, etc. I believe that these can be learned easily if we werent on such a short tether to our own matrix. In todays world expanding the mind and psycic awarness and consciousness is much more difficult. We are kept very busy and must constantly try to live in both the true world and the one our bodies live in.

Take 7 minutes to witness the matrix of our reality



[edit on 3/27/2009 by AlienChaser]

reply to post by AlienChaser

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If we live in a universe literally created by our own consciousness and this is the knowledge that the secret societies have been concealing through the ages.

Yes and no. They have been "concealing" it and at the same time they (or certain members) are responsible for making this ages-old knowledge available for those that are seeking. Those that don't want it will simply ignore it or won't even notice.

This isn't all of it by far but just a primer and isn't really exactly what it's about but it'll do.

To be negative to another is to open yourself to influence and control by the will of that other indeed. Start by denying that they have positivity over you and you'll find yourself brought to a higher state. Don't worry about bringing anyone down; that's a pointless waste of mental energy thus is weakening. Bring yourself up.

Now, you should have a clearer picture of just who the negative really is-- the one's telling you to worry-- many members of this very site. They weaken your mind and your will with the constant suggestions that you should be paranoid and preoccupied with stopping someone else that's try to get you. It's just a suggestion. It's B.S. It's not real.

"Their" reality will change indeed if fear of "them" is not a part of our thinking and ours will certainly be much more pleasant for us.

The main key is controlling thoughts, or rather, banishing thoughts that are not part of the reality you desire. It's not easy and can be downright painful, much doubt will arise, but it's definitely worthwhile to bring such dicipline to one's mind. That's a major key that is "withheld".

[edit on 3/28/2009 by EnlightenUp]

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