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New release of UFO files in UK - March 2009

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posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 02:40 PM
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These are indeed interesting, although it's abundantly clear that all the best ones are being withheld...for the meantime, and i have to agree that we are probably being drip-fed these sort of accounts until we get the ultimate disclosure. You really have to sort the wheat from the chaff sometimes, but the gems really are there!




posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by Thiaoouba Prophecy
Do you need more proof? Although it may be nice to have some more I personally don't need it. What purpose does this serve me? I know that extraterrestrial sentient beings that visit and study our planet exist.

However, people seek proof and more proof, and still more proof, for doubt still exists in their minds. Buddha, an Earthling, who acquired his understanding through his own study, did not say, as your fellow men do: I believe, but rather, I know. Faith is never perfect but knowledge is.


Great find OP. Star and Flagged for sure.

In regard to your statement Thiaoouba, I am one of those people who need proof. These articles are not "proof", just government records/files being released. The bible is another record of accounts that happened, but is the bible proof that Jesus existed?

I've seen two strange craft in my days. One sighting happened when I was 7 years old, so I discount that due to my creative imagination at this young age. My most recent encounter occurred above the 91 Freeway in Southern California (Los Angeles) two months ago. As it was night and traffic was moving at a snail pace, there was something in the sky that had white lights circling around it (kind of looked like a blimp with digital writing passing by the sides, but I dont believe this was the case). It was a mile or two away.

Now, despite what I saw, it was something I cannot explain; however I am not going to assume it was alien controlled. There are also some STS video's that show strange objects too, but not understanding the unexplain should not bring assumptions of alien controlled. I think I would be cheating myself to make this assertion. This is why individuals like myself require more feesible proof to believe 100%.

On a bright note, I admire the coming disclosure and wish that our government will soon take appropriate measures to release their own files.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by Majorion
reply to post by IsaacKoi
 

Thanks IsaacKoi !
I wasn't expecting them to release any new files for a while.


I was, everything is going nicely to plan. In fact around about sept/oct time this year we should be in for a nice suprise.

The last card to play is the EXTRA TERRESTRIAL card, ring any bells?

2012 looms in the not so far distance.

Good Thread very enjoyable to read.



[edit on 22-3-2009 by franspeakfree]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Thiaoouba Prophecy
Do you need more proof? Although it may be nice to have some more I personally don't need it. What purpose does this serve me? I know that extraterrestrial sentient beings that visit and study our planet exist.

However, people seek proof and more proof, and still more proof, for doubt still exists in their minds. Buddha, an Earthling, who acquired his understanding through his own study, did not say, as your fellow men do: I believe, but rather, I know. Faith is never perfect but knowledge is.

Faith is nothing in comparison with knowledge. Lord Buddha knew, you too, will be able to say I know.

There is a well-known story of doubting Thomas who wanted to touch Christs wounds, for, seeing them with his own eyes did not convince him enough; and yet, when he touched them, he was still doubtful.


Should be renamed ignorant Thomas.
I know many people who even if aliens landed on their lawn came out, talked to them, told them the god they believed in was really their people and the religion was not being truthful, they would still not believe it and would explain in ways I can't even think of.

It's really sad how much people don't want to believe anything else.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:52 PM
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I have no idea. Maybe it wasn't invisible and the photographer just didn't notice it when he took the shot?

(the above was a reply to rickyrrr)

[edit on 22-3-2009 by Jay-in-AR]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:53 PM
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Lately I've been of the opinion that we won't ever get a full disclosure from the Government.
They'll trickle stuff out to us until it is abundantly clear.
That way they don't have to admit to killing folks in order to cover it all up.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:21 PM
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The thread title is somewhat misleading, since it's the (apparent) close encounters part that's the most interesting. I was expecting the standard military-chases-bogey accounts, but this surprises me. Certainly there has to have been something solid enough in the contactee's account beyond a reasonable assumption of hallucination (even a first one ever) or lie. That's a first I'm aware of coming from GOVERNMENT documents. Looks like momentum is with truthseekers.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by uknumpty
Today's London Telegraph reporting a picture of strange lights over London in the day

UFOs photographed over London



Strange shapes have been photographed hovering over London leading to speculation they could be UFOs.


Funny how they over the Houses Of Parliment!!!



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 07:05 PM
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I really suggest you guys check out some of the reads founds on "defe-31-179"

Examples:






Page 31 and on... wow.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 07:36 PM
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Then again, it's possible for disinformation, or at least misinformation, to exist in all types of government documents. I'm automatically wary of anyone who tells of God as though the concept is a rationally-scientifically sound enough one.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 07:47 PM
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What in the world is that all about?
Are those supposed to be Government documents?





posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 02:10 AM
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Heres a video from skynews




posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 02:46 AM
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hahahaha...only two pages of responses.
back in the day people of ats would be having a field day with this news.



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 03:28 AM
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Officials were so alarmed by the object, which was captured on camera, that they broke with established procedures and referred the sighting to ministers.

They also overrode rules prohibiting investigations into UFO sightings not considered an immediate threat to national security, and spent more than a year trying to crack the still unexplained mystery.

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Most of the UFO "sightings" contained in the national archives were ultimately explained away. But the Scottish event still remains a mystery.

According to the files, the Ministry of Defence first became aware of the existence of the craft when the Daily Record newspaper presented it with six colour photographs of the object. The UFO seen by two men, one of whom captured it on camera, as it hovered in daylight near the A9, at Calvine, north of Pitlochry, on August 4, 1990.

The witnesses said it hovered for about 10 minutes – during which time military aircraft were also seen making a series of low-level passes – before moving upwards, out of sight, at great speed.

The files show that officials established from the photographs that the military craft were Harrier jets even though, intriguingly, none were operational in the area at the time.

An MoD minute prepared for the then Armed Forces Minister, Sir Archie Hamilton, and dated September 14, 1990 states: "Under Secretary of State (Armed Forces) may wish to be aware that the Scottish Daily Record may run a story regarding an alleged sighting of a UFO near Pitlochrie [sic] in early August. Such stories are not normally drawn to the attention of Ministers and the MoD press office invariably responds to questions along well-established lines emphasising our limited interest in the UFO phenomenon and explaining that we therefore do not have the resources to undertake any in-depth investigations into particular sightings.

"They [the photographs] show a large stationary, diamond-shaped object past which, it appears, a small jet aircraft is flying. The negatives have been considered by the relevant staff who have established that the jet aircraft is a Harrier (and also identified a barely visible second aircraft, again probably a Harrier) but have reached no definite conclusion regarding the large object."

The MoD even prepared a defensive media strategy in the event that journalists should bombard its press office with questions about the craft.

Journalists who quizzed the department were to be told that "no definite conclusions have been reached regarding the large diamond shaped object".

However, the Daily Record did not run the pictures.

Dr David Clarke, a university journalism lecturer and UFO expert, said: "This is the most tantalising of all the UFO reports. This shows how the MoD was worried about what the hell they were going to say. They had no idea what it was. They couldn't even identify where the Harriers had come from. It is a real mystery. It is one that can't be explained. They took it very, very seriously."

The files show that a year after the original photographs were taken, the MoD tasked experts to produce line drawings of the UFO which would give officials an idea of scale.

Even the creation of the drawings was shrouded in strict secrecy. One undated document suggests "very special handling" because of "sensitivity of the material". It also orders "minimum handling by listed personnel".

www.telegraph.co.uk...

So where are these photographs? Apparently, they got the MoD quite worried. Why aren't they in the released file?

Also anyone see a resemblence with O'Hare? Stationary, saucer shaped ship, lifting off vertically with high speed...

[edit on 23/3/2009 by errorist]



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 04:00 AM
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bottom line of all that disclosers well expressed by "The Sun":


The Government want us to believe the truth is now out there — but these cases prove there are plenty of UFO mysteries that remain unanswered.


The Whole Article



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 04:27 AM
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I have sent an email to the Daily Record asking if they can release the photographs. Will keep you informed

[edit on 23/3/2009 by errorist]



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 04:40 AM
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i think people are a little wiser now and realize that anything they are releasing, they are releasing for dis-informational purposes.



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 05:34 AM
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The sighting was certainly taken seriously by the authorities at the time, but as we have seen so many times before, the information was withheld, until now!

But why release this information now, after keeping it secret for almost 19 years?

It seems hard to believe that the increase in sightings recently, together with a more relaxed stance by the UK and US on revealing previously secret UFO information, not to mention the Vatican's changed views on alien life, is all a coincidence. What is going on?

Are we (the public) being prepared for alien contact in the very near future, or is this, as some people believe, the first step in a "fake" alien visit, designed to trick the public into accepting new conditions and control?


Link to source

Heres the timeline

MSM starts publishing SERIOUS small articles no more than 40 words in daily newspapers.(tick) in EUROPE there will be more alotted publication space.
MSM barring lifted on UFO national security threat (tick)
NASA finds water on Mars (tick)
Nasa finds microscopic organisms in space (tick)
UFO paperwork declassifed - de sensitising public all the while (tick)
Films in cinema depicting UFO/Aliens/ Compasion released (tick)

NASA finds signs of plant life - within 12 months
UFO's spotted in sky on daily basis. - within 18 months
Eventually video footage of clear sighting shown on CNN NBC,SKY NEWS and around the world. - 18-24 months
Lastly sometime between now and 2011 SETI receives reply message. -

How convenient

Did I leave anything out?

On a side note, anyone else notice how they word the articles as in the past as if its over and done with. Nothing to see here please move along!

Its all a mind game, confuse the masses and release it slowly. The question is Can we HANDLE the truth?

[edit on 23-3-2009 by franspeakfree]



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by chinabean
hahahaha...only two pages of responses.
back in the day people of ats would be having a field day with this news.


The reason being is because people know whats coming now.

Before it was unheard of that UFO and ET get into the news without some kind of joke and snidey comment now its in the news daily.

We have to keep our eyes on 'the powers that be' and see what card they play.



posted on Mar, 23 2009 @ 06:48 AM
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I was looking forward to reading through the information supplied, The first thing I came across was the "Banana Alien" sketch. I'm still laughing while typing this.




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