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posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:20 PM
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Wow this is getting strange. I tried to visit www.oneism.org... but it was down as well...

I guess he's real bored since he started his own Religon last Year... Here is the quote
Oneism

New belief system - Est: October 2008 - All religions referenced, also taking science into account as one - Tree of Life is the Creation - Historical proof listed at oneism.org - Love replaces worship - witnesses of The Tree of Life testimony as introduced by Wayne Herschel.

This is an interesting twist, I have found a few guys out there who really think that createing a new "system" is some type of new Idea. It's not. Love and reflection of the beauty of our universe needs not a man made system, but just the feeling of being there and seeing it. I suppose now that once all theese sites come up his cred is going to dive since this "Tree of Life" is going to push away anyone with common sense. I like how this is turning out though, it is a mystery and we are all now detectives trying to sort through whats real and whats not.

Mabye I'm wrong, mabye he's drinking the holy koolAid, and I need to re-sort through my findings. But "Cult" or not wiser men have told me all religons started at the cult phase... so why not just call all cults religon, and let people worship without a derogatory word, and to me "cult"sounds crappy.

Hope that we find some stuff out soon

Semper Fi




posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:21 PM
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Originally posted by SS,Naga


They are different: you follow what they 'teach' you, use your own 'free will' as you choose, make donations (please), and 'quit' when you've had enough.


Mmm sounds like a good tactic to attract people in. You think your using your "free will" but really your not at all, you are being manipulated all the way along. The best thing with sites like this is to read, take in what is your truth then leave, move on, use the information to aid in your path of progression but dont get dragged in to "the site" and its "beliefs". "Teach" yourself do not allow others to be your teachers.




PS - Sites down, many links are down: give them time to bring it back online. I read it last nite, and it's interesting. They make many assumptions which are wrong, but this is 'being led' and not knowing of the SoulSelf. Use discernment.


Why were several of us reading this site last night before we saw this thread?? Im wondering if its been provided as a link on another thread for so many of us to have been reading it yesterday?

Discernment should always be used, its too much of a risk not to, you can walk into all sorts of negative influences if you dont.



This info is great, but my meaning is this: it is why there are teachers and people to help others over rough spots of learning. You cannot jsut go to these sites and suddenly blossom into All-Knowledge. It helps wake people up, guide them...but the True path to guidance is via direct connect with the Soul-Spirit. This is what the author should convey, not 'want to know more?' like he keeps asking. But, to each their own.

You are correct in one thing: lots of good info to be encountered on the sites. Just carry a sword & shield with you, always.


Exactly, the information is good, read it, use it but dont become bonded to its messenger. sites such as this offer truth, they have to to get us interested, look we are talking about it so we are interested. Small parts from lots of sites should be taken by us an individuals and placed together our own truth, not someone elses. Your right, use them only as guidance for the Soul-Spirit.

I too find "hey want to know more" alarming, especially if you have to pay.
Yes lots of good info but make sure you have that sword and shield...or you may regret it...I know I did.

Good post Naga, very informative, thanks.



[edit on 22-3-2009 by Mr Green]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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I don't know how many of you prescribe to the Growing earth theory, but given that no one knows what happened accurately a year ago, let alone billions of years ago, I believe that the earth was at one time all pieced together with a much smaller surface area.

I actually believe the earth grows to accommodate it's inhabitance, so with that being said, I believe that at one point not that long ago that everything was much closer together including the pyramids. Perhaps they work as anchors to hold land masses in place so that they stretch from those places.

I believe there was too fast a rate of growth thus, the earth trying to accommodate a population explosion actually split and expanded leaving us story's of Atlantis and Lemuria, Noah, Gilgamesh etc which are now myth and replaced by all assuring science that isn't science but trickery.

Because of these stories I believe this split happened rather recently, with in the last 5 to 10 thousand years and that because of panic it is hidden from us and the fact that they use the crap out of us and are going to throw us away.

The beast I see rising up from the sea with 7 heads and 10 horns is 7 billion people and the earth is going to contract again.

Think of the tsunami and Louisiana as blessings slowing this process but not for long. When the pop hits 7Billion....it's go time.

Perhaps that is why wars are fought so recklessly by our country, maybe it's helping to save us? I can at least try to think there is some Good in stuff like that.

One other thing. If anything I've said about the earth growing is true, then the pyramids would have been lined with the stars a little differently on a smaller surface area, but may because the pyramid is shaped the way it is, it still retains it's star keeping accuracy only you have to know which level you're on currently as it goes up to a point...that point is 7 billion people.

Peace

[edit on 22-3-2009 by letthereaderunderstand]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by SS,Naga
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Yes, I was joking with You regarding the cult of One. However, these links are from Wayne Herschel, along with the Key of Solomon pages, and also lead to Wayne Herschel's cult site, 'Oneism,' based on his mystical-cosmic experience(s)...you will see when the links come up. This is entirely real (that he is is making his knowledge a cult, free to join). Sound familiar?

The OP seems to think this is innocent: I tried to convey it isn't, but to little avail, I imagine. Most need to learn the hard way. All cults (many become full-blown religions) start out with Truth, which is subsequently concealed at a certain level, from the 'lesser' members, while the higher members get the cream. Disinformation soon takes the streerage of their course, or I miss my mark enitrely.



I admit as I read it alarm bells did ring for me, but I was able to read the information and shield myself from any influences a cult may have placed within the writings. I was able to recognize the truth about Mars but discern against the manipulation of the site. This has come from experience of being recruited into a new age cult but I can see how others would not readily see this danger. I didnt did I when it happened to me. Hopefully others will not be as stupid as I was.

Basically just read this information because there will be truth in it, then discern it from what is not the truth then just leave. Its a simple as that, take the information and empower yourself with it.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:40 PM
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have you checked out the cydonia region with google mars live, on google earth.turns out the face is just a land formation so are so called pyramids on mars,there goes some of your theory.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by pauldamo
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have you checked out the cydonia region with google mars live, on google earth.turns out the face is just a land formation so are so called pyramids on mars,there goes some of your theory.


I really dont think so man... who owns the web sites you just refrenced?

I think many will agree with me that the Govt's are truly just out right lying to us about so many things that they just arn't credible any more. We need to keep looking, and not just shut down when the masters throw us there scraps...

Semper Fi



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 03:52 PM
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Good stuff... looking forward to checking it out more when site is back up.

As for the occult stuff, it really is sad to see people that recognize all sorts of conspiracies not acknowledge the conspiracy that 'the occult is the work of the devil.' It isn't, and if there are devil worshippers claiming occult influence, they did not understand the occult they 'studied'. Occult and Esoteric knowledge go hand in hand, and are in no way evil. Occult simply is the teaching of the hidden. The Vatican has been deeming this knowledge 'heretic' for so long, and wiping it from the board.

Theosophy, for example, had a publishing called 'Lucifer' I believe, that probably turned more people away from Theosophy, just because of the title. It was not to worship the devil. In Occult knowledge - biblical references are ALLEGORIES. Lucifer is quite literally the light bringer, and occult followers do not ascribe an entity or individual to the ALLEGORIES.

Look, I am ranting again. Really though, I think there may be something to this. Check out David Flynn if you haven't yet, he has some good lectures up on Youtube about these subjects, including Masonic knowledge.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 04:09 PM
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Anyone having trouble getting onto the wensite referenced in the OP?

It won't seem to open for me.


-Kdial1



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by kdial1
Anyone having trouble getting onto the wensite referenced in the OP?

It won't seem to open for me.


-Kdial1


Its not just you, none of us can get onto it or the links related to it. Some of us happened to read it yesterday so we can make some comments on the OP but I know it would be far more accurate if we could as a group discuss this with the actual link working!

never mind Im sure there is a boring explanation as to why the site has gone down.

Edit to spell accurate accurately.

[edit on 22-3-2009 by Mr Green]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 04:25 PM
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I remember reading from the site a couple years ago. kinda cool.

someone before mentioned this link, but people keep saying it does not work. this link is from webarchive. a little slow, but it works fine for me

web.archive.org...://thehiddenrecords.com/


just put thehiddenrecords.com in the search bar, you should get a list of dates, i clicked on the most recent, from 2007. worked fine


[edit on 22-3-2009 by Le Colonel]



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 04:32 PM
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Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand He is the Baal Cain, or Vulcan, that is Volcano, whose face is glowing red that "rose up" and slayed his brother (man).


Ehh, not according to etymology and the semantics of words and names. Ba'al the original Satan is linkes with Ab-Ba'al or Abel who was only - ABLE - to enter the kingdom of God, but who could not. While Cain who - CAN - or knows killed the slaughterer and wins God's love and protection. Soon after Seth - SET - the score, and brought a new system of law.

Abel is Satan, Cain is Jesus and Set is the scribes.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 04:33 PM
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nope sorry thats not working either, not for me anyway.

This is the only one I can get to load

rochester92.vox.com... oh and plus lots of links to books , all those links work fine



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by Bamaisin
just looking at the mars face on the hidden record link, and it looks like a lion face not a human one the nose has an animal shape, there is a mane and the mouth look catlike as well, the sphinx is said by some to have been a lion face originally??? anybody else see what i'm talking about?
cheers




You. After seeing the new picture of the face on mars it is definitely a Lion.

Lions are used as symbols of power and have been for ages. On family crests/seals especially.

The Lion's face is on mars but the Lion's body is on earth.

Anybody else catch that?

The Human/ Lion connection is at the very least interesting.

Family's of power used the lion as a symbol. Do those same families know the secret and let each other know who knows by having it represent their family?


Maybe the people who brought us here have something to do with Lions.....

Feline-Humanoids maybe?

I've heard the Humanoid figure is the best suited for intelligence or something like that. So maybe part of the terra papers has some truth in that those who brought us hear are intelligent humanoid-felines decendants.


Makes you wonder why the Egyptians almost worshipped cats. Because they knew that the cat is how we got here. That mixed with the sphynx having a lions body.


So many things from ages past are starting to become clearer to people ever day that passes.

Lets keep gathering the info and piecing it back together.

The knowledge was never lost, but hidden and horded by those in control.

People never want to connect the dots but that is the key to understanding.

Dots are just dots until you connect the lines then you can SEE THE PICTURE.

The dots are like peices on information and knowledge.

When you do a connect the dots picture, you can start to see the picture form as you come closer to completing it.

We must be now coming closer to completing it and therefore are starting to see the picture form.

Feels amazing really . Also feels amazing to not be close-minded like so many people I know.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:00 PM
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Has anyone noticed that if you take the 2001 image and turn it upside-down from the orientation that gives us the traditional "sphinx" face, that you end up seeing an alien grey? Yeah, the sphinx face is no longer there, but different lighting yields a different face. Is someone trying to send us the message that we are two sides of the same coin?



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by xul

Originally posted by badmedia
But cats were considered sacred in ancient egypt. Lion obviously being one of the larger and more dominant species.


All animals were considered sacred in ancient Egypt.
And i really don't understand what this topic is all about and what "ancient Vatican secrets" are revealed here? WTF?


Let your guard down. push away all past beliefs, be open to the new possible info and I'm sure the picture and usefullness of the info presented will be easier for you to see.

You don't have to believe anything but respect it and it will show itself to you.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by LucidDreamer85


You. After seeing the new picture of the face on mars it is definitely a Lion.

Lions are used as symbols of power and have been for ages. On family crests/seals especially.

The Lion's face is on mars but the Lion's body is on earth.



Interesting post. I have a thread on the Pyramids and the Arc and Ive found it very difficult to find anything on this Lion race, however snipets can be found .



Now the Great Pyramid was built over the Arc's entrance to fortify and secure its location. (The Great Pyramid was apparently constructed about 46,000 BC, then rebuilt around 28,000 BC, 10,500 BC, and 9,500 BC after ET hostilities caused damage or destruction.) We might add that this location is also that of Earth's main vortex centre (corresponding to the heart chakra in humans). This vortex merged the third and fourth dimensional frequencies and when active within the harmonic resonating chamber of the Pyramid created an interdimensional alignment with a similar system in Sirius, enabling instantaneous transit of spacecrafts from the more advanced Sirian Council of the Anunnaki to Earth to keep the resistance Anunnaki, visiting Earth, in order.

Humans have also been allowed to believe the great ankhs were the Arc of the Covenant. The larger of these tools were referred to as machines. They are secure and hidden within the Sphinx---beyond the Inner Earth portal which the Sphinx was built over around the time of the Great Pyramid. Inner Earth does not mean the centre of our Earth. The Sphinx was apparently built by the Sirian Council as a tribute to the Leonine race who were instrumental in laying the foundations of the Anunnaki and Sirian culture. The head was initially that of an Anunnaki of the Sirian Council but when rebuilt was changed to the likeness of an Egyptian.


Im really not sure who the Leonine race are but it appears they were from Sirius. The information above is partly based on channelling so as always discern. It is written that the sphinx was originally a lion but was later changed to the face of an Egyptian so maybe the body AND head of the lion were originally on Earth together.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by pauldamo
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have you checked out the cydonia region with google mars live, on google earth.turns out the face is just a land formation so are so called pyramids on mars,there goes some of your theory.


What you stated actually hasn't been proven. They say it is one thing but they throw out all the evidence of other things. They basically takes 1 fact and try to use to to disprove a dozen things. They have not debunked near everything year . not even close.


It's like people want somebody of authority to give them just 1 fact to go with so their beliefs can stay intact and they will cling on to that just to keep their current views of life the same because the same is comforting and everybody likes being in a comfort zone. We seek to be comfortable with everything.

It's when we learn the most and are at our best when we are out of our comfort zone.

Thats how they train troops better for war, they bring them out of their comfort zone so they can push themselves to learn more.

When you are challenged is usually when you do your best.

These Ideas are challenging what we thought was our comfort zone. We can use this to better ourselves, and our understanding or we can desperitely try to cling onto some sort of comfort and just remain the same.

Every time we are see new info or theory's is an opportunity for us to grow and learn and we waste it. We have become a wasteful people.

Kind of sad really.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Mr Green

Originally posted by LucidDreamer85


You. After seeing the new picture of the face on mars it is definitely a Lion.

Lions are used as symbols of power and have been for ages. On family crests/seals especially.

The Lion's face is on mars but the Lion's body is on earth.




very apealing point... i never claimed to know what the face was of, but clearly the predominate features of a face. It is possible anything, and the fact that all this stuff is out there does make me happy, it does make me feel like people will wake up, we will defeat the NWO, take back the planet, travel to the stars and place our face on another landscape....

Evil is so strange, and it permeate's our everyday... Our global leaders try to hide everybit of love and truth for control, but they fall so flat.... We are awakening on a multi faceted spectrum, when we take back this world we will all know the truths, and there will no more "Tope Secret" because "Class" is a tool of the elite. I think u can all tell by what I sat that I will stand on my feat till my death, before I ever stoop to their level of horrible demisiona,,,



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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I ordered Kills and Killed. I had bullets impact at my feat and I still am shocked that I felt more fear from a cell phone bill than a round from a rifle



This says so much about the state of humanity



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by moocowman
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I ordered Kills and Killed. I had bullets impact at my feat and I still am shocked that I felt more fear from a cell phone bill than a round from a rifle



This says so much about the state of humanity



what does it say chief? dont toungue in cheek me, im a man... say what u really feel.....

tell me what you think, dont just one line me and walk away

semper fi





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