Ok so now Loyd's wife, that was not there knows a plane did not hit.

Sorry not admissable, hearsay.

The interviewer is (as I have pointed out many many times) using suggestive recal and leading the witness,

Notice how Loyd does not agree.

We are also missing considerable portions of the interview we get Craig reinforcing what is being said by putting his opinions inbetween portions of the video.

Originally posted by Achorwrath
Ok so now Loyd's wife, that was not there knows a plane did not hit.

Sorry not admissable, hearsay.

The interviewer is (as I have pointed out many many times) using suggestive recal and leading the witness,

Notice how Loyd does not agree.

We are also missing considerable portions of the interview we get Craig reinforcing what is being said by putting his opinions inbetween portions of the video.

You didn't notice the ride in the car when he thought the camera was off? What was that...Hearsay?

If you were involved in a cover up that you didn't want to be a part of in the first place knowing that the CIA could slit your throat in sleep that night do you think you'd be very forthcoming on camera?

You're the only one you need to convince of anything.

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Then who placed the debris blocks away including landing gear and an engine? Macy Day parade elves? This entire argument is pathetic.

I saw a plane hit on TV. I saw planes in the videos that were released later. There are missing passengers...There are missing pilots....there were terrorists on board who killed people before slamming a missile of an airplane into it 3/4 of the way up. Where are they? (Please, do not link to prisonplanet or Rense...)

They came from opposite directions because they wanted them to
fall' into one another. That was the plan.

Originally posted by esdad71
Then who placed the debris blocks away including landing gear and an engine? Macy Day parade elves? This entire argument is pathetic.

attempting to dismiss and ignore the evidence and facts or pretending evidence and facts supporting the opposite of what you THINK, is whats pathetic.

Originally posted by esdad71
I saw a plane hit on TV. I saw planes in the videos that were released later.

no, you saw what the MSM and PERPS wanted you to see.

IRREFUTABLE evidence has already been proven beyond a doubt to exist that shows FAKERY and IMPOSSIBLE imagery of 175 hitting the towers.

you can ignore and deny that evidence, but it won't change that its there for anyone with real common sense to see plain as day.

Originally posted by esdad71
There are missing passengers...There are missing pilots....there were terrorists on board who killed people before slamming a missile of an airplane into it 3/4 of the way up. Where are they? (Please, do not link to prisonplanet or Rense...)

No, you're blindly buying the LIE that was sold to you about missing passengers and pilots... about muslim terrorists with box-cutters... and about planes they made you believe were flight 175, 11, 93 and 77.

where are they? good question... but the burden of proof isn't up to us to prove there were planes... its the US governments responsibility. And they have yet to do so.

now since you and the perps have NO CONCLUSIVE PROOF OF LIVE FOOTAGE WITH REAL 767 BOEINGS aka 11, 175, 93 and 77, to assert there were, is just that, an assertion.

so blame their lack of evidence for such things as NPT being a logical alternative aside from the fact there's irrefutable facts and evidence to support it.

and yes, that was the perps plan all along which you and billions of others still asleep, have fallen for hook, line and sinker.

Originally posted by esdad71
Then who placed the debris blocks away including landing gear and an engine? Macy Day parade elves? This entire argument is pathetic.

I saw a plane hit on TV. I saw planes in the videos that were released later. There are missing passengers...There are missing pilots....there were terrorists on board who killed people before slamming a missile of an airplane into it 3/4 of the way up. Where are they? (Please, do not link to prisonplanet or Rense...)

They came from opposite directions because they wanted them to
fall' into one another. That was the plan.

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First, our government was partially responsible for 9/11, and that was shown with the 9/11 commission report. This is why DHS was created. This allows for less information to seep through the cracks of intel failures.

However, what we are dealing with is trying to convince me, someone who does not believe the official story but feels, based on evidence and research, that terrorists were trained and carried out 9/11, that there were no planes.

For this to be true, it would nean that every eyewitness who saw or heard those planes is a liar. Everyone. Firefigthers, police, Port Authority, copter pilots, employees of WTC 1 and 2. If they did not see a plane, what was it?

1. A hologram - I am sure the technology is there to project but for defense not offense. Check DARPA and Lockheed Martin.

2. MIssles/Scramjets/any other craft - There is no need. If you can remotely piot a commercial airliner...why not? Maybe there were spec ops across town laser targeting....

3. No Planes - OK, this is ridiculous. Bordering on comical. I don't care if you think TVis the devil, there are PLENTY of videos that show PLANES hitting the towers.

No. none of those things. On September 11th, 2001, like it or not, our country was attacked. Over 3000 innocent people died not because of US politics bbut for hate. Hate of a country that they are jealous of for we are free and they will never be. It is simple.

I mean, folks, what did the Bush administration gain from 9/11? Unemployment...stock dives....a global war? There were no tanks in the streets, martial law, SS troops kicking in your door....nothing. There is no basis for it.

Now, if there is no motive and no gain why post the risk to yourself? Simple logic folks. Truth movement is to cover Flight 93 and Flight 587.

the more and more i read the replies on this topic the more and more i am frusterated at the common sense in human beings.
the videos released definately do not show planes hitting steel / concrete. perhaps every single video has been doctored, perhaps only some... maybe they did use holograms or some sort of highly advanced technology to trick everyone there.
know this; whatever technology you THINK they have or use, however advanced you think we are... WE are not... WE are slaves, slaves that use the same 100 year old dog # gas powered engines. WE dont even get clean water. they may have technologies that we couldnt even fathom or comprehend if it was staring us in the face. whats shown in the videos are PHYSICALLY PHUCKING IMPOSSIBLE. if you are going to pull off the biggest false flag to date would you honestly leave it up to chance and physics? the possibility that maybe the plane wouldnt be fast enough, and would probably just crash into the building and sprinkle NYC with debris.
you are completely missing the main focus of this topic... and that is that the OFFICIAL videos are bullsh!t. we all know the official story is bullsh!t, what makes the "amateur video" any more realistic? the ego of the human being holds us back from accepting new or groundbreaking knowledge, because it destroys our foundation, our belief. we could never admit we were actually wrong about something.
the fact that you people are denying basic physics for a video with little validity, other than the fact that CNN said it was real, is absolutely absurd. however, what the f*ck does it really matter? they did it. and 8 years later we still argue about it... nothing has been done, nothing has changed, and nothing is helping the prevention of the next attack.

those of you who believe the world is black and white will never accept a grey area of possibility, of something being unexplainable, of something happening that baffles us to the point where we compensate with illogical puzzle pieces just so the puzzle makes sense to us. anything for comfort.
garaunteed not one of us knows exactly what happened on 9/11. we may know a lot, may know just a little... but realize this..this info is being spread, and not only is it spreading like a virus... the powers that be are LETTING it spread. ever question why?

Originally posted by matrixNIN11

Originally posted by esdad71
I saw a plane hit on TV. I saw planes in the videos that were released later.

no, you saw what the MSM and PERPS wanted you to see.

IRREFUTABLE evidence has already been proven beyond a doubt to exist that shows FAKERY and IMPOSSIBLE imagery of 175 hitting the towers.

you can ignore and deny that evidence, but it won't change that its there for anyone with real common sense to see plain as day.

What are you talking out of?

Some of us saw it live and in person plain as day

My wife and I drove up to Jersey early that morning from Maryland and right as we were arriving we heard about the first plane hitting the tower on the radio so we drove down to watch the fire from the Jersey side, We with about maybe 50 other people were all jammed against the steel railing near a bench and we saw the second one come right in and slam into to the other tower so please get some real facts!

Stop reading garbage on the web and youtube. This only makes you look foolish to those who were actually there that day.


It's sad really we have people die and some yahoo online denies it ever happened. Well I have always avoided these threads because I know what I saw I cant speak for what happened in DC or what slammed into the field but I know what I saw that morning from Jersey.


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