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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness...
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
We are not just Spirit, we are matter too. Those documents that you call "papers" are part of us. They tell us how, and why this Great Republic was founded, and those papers show us those rights we were given for every future generation. "Living Documents" are like living things, They are not alive per say but they embody everything good that our forefathers granted us when they founded this nation.
If you change those "living documents" then you destroy the Republic. Yes, laws will change with time, but at least for now whatever laws are made have to abide by those "Living Documents", otherwise we will only change our Great Republic into a Confused Nation, which is almost the state our Great Republic is in right now.
Originally posted by peskyhumans
I agree that if a society allows the rich to get all the power, that society will inevitably become a dictatorship, however that's why I think all representative republics will fail. Any time you allow a chosen group of people to form law for the rest of society, those same people will always become the target of bribery and power-mongering by others pursuing their own self-interest. The representatives will always give in to corruption, and it will become commonplace. They will start forming law in the pursuit of their financial interests rather than in the interests of the people, and freedom will be lost.
This is why I believe that the only stable, free society is a democracy, where all citizens can form law based on popular vote. In such a society, who do you bribe? I can't imagine how you could undermine such a society through bureaucracy and political mongering, as you would have to have the majority of the people read, understand, and then vote on every law passed. It sounds to me, almost Utopian.
Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
I see your spirit and understand your fight, but it doesn't matter what is written on paper if men don't follow it.
Destroy the government and it will rise again, because again, if people don't have it with in themselves to do what is right to one another when given responsibility to mind the affairs of every citizen, then a new dictator is waiting in the wings.
The first thing to dismantle is our education system. You know this great document, but I'm willing to bet you couldn't name back 4 Generations in your own family. We've lost touch with who we are as individuals and that is why we've turned into a crowd.
I see your heart friend, but I just believe it is the wrong direction. We've done the constitution for over 200 years.
Hey, I'm really saying nothing different then the constitution, it should be "self-evident".
Originally posted by RedCairo
...even the person with the representative vote either can't change, or won't because I can't compete with lobbyists, is a pointless waste of time. What I'd like to go to war about is WHY it's a waste of time, but thanks to all of the above, things have devolved to the point where that's just the way it is.
Originally posted by Grumble
Give it up. Idiocracy is upon us. Let Father Darwin have his way with this worthless population.
Originally posted by cbianchi513
I laughed when I heard Obama talk about "A new Declaration of Independance". Any reader of the document can plainly see that it is a list of grievances directed at a tyranny, and a demand for redress.
Is Obama going to craft a new list of grievances?
Who will he send it to?