Well I went down and tick, tick, tick, followed bu another 13 ticks. I live in the UK but I presume you are USA. We are living in a Tyrannical society for sure.

A very interesting post. I'm not sure that you could say that the United States (or jolly old England) can really claim to have all 16 of these.

I think an interesting distinction to draw is the difference between hard and soft tyranny. North Korea, for example, is a definitive hard tyranny. There is no question about its following of all the 16 points to some extent.

However, in the United States, we still question whether or not we can apply each point. Because of this debate, we can argue that it is a soft tyranny. That is, there is enough opinion on either side to make a case. When the real tyranny clicks in, the vast majority will be more than happy to open the doors. Likewise, I think that this should be a rallying cry against the more democratic movements across the world. Democracies allow for demagogues and other forms of tyranny.

We should get back to the Constitution, please... people... read the handwriting on the wall.

Is ANYONE feeling like Cassandra at Troy?

With God as my witness, I saw the topic and read " 16 Signs you are Living with a Tranny". Sorry, just had to throw that out.

Next sign:

You're in a proclaimed Democracy

S+F from me

14. Use of staged events to produce popular support: Acts of terrorism, blamed on political opponents, followed immediately with well-prepared proposals for increased powers and budgets for suppressive agencies. Sometimes called a Reichstag plot.

15. Conversion of rights into privileges: Requiring licenses and permits for doing things that the government does not have the delegated power to restrict, except by due process in which the burden of proof is on the petitioner.

Wow! Great find!

I really appreciate the ammunition in helping open the eyes of some people who refuse to believe anything but TV media!

13. Increasing public ignorance of their civic duties and reluctance to perform them: When the people avoid doing things like voting and serving in militias and juries, tyranny is not far behind.

I'm 40 yoa- and I have seen a steady decline in this for my generation. I see it as a tangible fact.

We, in my generation, were raised better, IMHO. I was taught to vote, say "sir" & "mam", etc.

There is a constant effort, from parts unknown, to drag each consecutive generation down.

And their plan is working.

S & F from me. I would say this pretty much sums up what we are living in right now. Great piece Ima pass it around.

A good sign that you are on the way to tyranny is a government full of lies and self importance, and makes those who question it outcast or nutters. If you put down something that was done in the past or remind people that similar events could be happening now you are not "patriotic". It's so silly, and yet many people in the government try to play this game where they forget the past, gloss over the dirty details, and start the whole damned process over again while they belittle people who aren't dumb enough or far enough in denial to accept their BS.

[edit on 21-3-2009 by rapinbatsisaltherage]

Originally posted by Iago18

I think an interesting distinction to draw is the difference between hard and soft tyranny.

I agree, there is definitely a difference between a hard and soft tyranny.

N. Korea is much more brazen in their actions. The brand of tyranny over there is very much in your face. The US on the other hand would definitely be considered a soft tyranny in comparison.

This leads me to another question, is a "soft" tyranny simply a method to pave the way for harder brands to come along? Or is it an independent form of government that relies on the facade of democracy to control things tyrannically beneath the surface?

Good replies!