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now im worried! americans running out of ammo! thats scary! well us brits gotta settle with slingshots and if your lucky a crossbow!
Originally posted by j2000
I just went down to buy some ammo.
Could not get any.
I am in Wichita Kansas, we have not had a big problem with getting mostly what ever you wanted.
Each store said that several people came in this morning and bought up what was left.
No - 9mm, 380, .22, 10/22, 308, 40, 45, 44, 357, 223, 222, 30-30, 50cal
I got some 12 gauge and .410, but they were almost out also.
I know alot of people are buying this stuff, but from what the stores tell me, they are not getting anything. Most think that there is something going on. They have had heavy times like this before, 9/11 etc. but have always been able to keep things coming.
I think the Govt. is already playing with our supply.
We need a whistle blower to come from someplace and put this right.
Originally posted by dodadoom
You guys are just a little late!
Shoulda been using that plastic cash for something important!
Don't forget the food too! Good luck with whats left.
I think the supply is prolly being phased out for the new ammunition accountability act.
Originally posted by CuriousSkeptic
I wonder if it's an unconscious hysteria that is driving ammo shortages. I wonder how many of you are white, religious, or conservative. I'm not trying to pick any fights and I'm firm supporter of the 2nd Amendment but from reading threads like these, it really does seem there is a hysteria prevalent through certain cross section of this country.
Originally posted by projectvxn
I can still get tons of ammo here in Reno. They've run out of .270 but that's because I've bought a ton of it. 9mm is plentiful here as well.
To those that think the government can roll right over Americans I have a few things to point out:
1. Most ex military people I know are very well trained and can create an IED HELL for any opposing force. Some people I know aren't ex-mil and can still create an IED Hell.
2. Americans are very resourceful when it come to fighting. Most of my friends and myself included are long time martial artists, and combat trained with weapons and firearms of all types. Few of us have been in the military.
3. Americans have learned alot from studying history. Professional armies cannot fight insurgencies, they never have been able to and they never will be able to. It's just not the kind of war you want to be fighting.
All in all, I place my chips on the peoples' side here. You can have all the helicopters you want, you can have all the tanks you want, you can have all the soldiers who would be WILLING to fight that you want. In the end, your technology can't hit what it can't see.
Aside from all of that, I'm more worried about extremely high crime rates than I am foot soldiers. My brother is in the Army and I know he wouldn't shoot me. The same is true for many in the military.
Originally posted by Merriman Weir
Originally posted by WatchRider
I'm not even from the US and I think that's a bs line of thinking.
What advantages the PTB have are negated by the fact that to bring there overwhelming firepower and technology against the militiamen etc they need to have set battlelines and a clear enemy.
Also there needs to be a logistical supply line to keep troops fighting against an enemy. A lot of soldiers (excluding most SF troops) will be paralysed if the logistics chain is messed with.
The militiafolk and other survivalists will not have such problems
In past discussions, things like Vietnam were used as an example of how a minority militia could defeat a supposedly superior fire-power* because of the combat environment. What I said then was that America, like a lot of Vietnam, already has a massive infrastructure in place and a massive network transport system. Also, 'The Powers That Be' would also have access to transport that any militia wouldn't have on any real tangible scale such as planes and helicopters to create a supply line. What are people going to be shooting these planes out of the sky with their handguns and limited ammunition?
*not as cut and dried as many think due to support from China &c.
EDIT: anyway, perhaps this is all going too far off-thread.
[edit on 21-3-2009 by Merriman Weir]