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Fat shaming by way of bus stops

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posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 07:41 PM
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Originally posted by saabster5
Food is only part of the health equation. Exercising is a major part. Just because you eat your "rice-cakes" or "soy-cakes" isn't going to make you healthier.
I say kudos to the advertising scheme. May not be the best way to get someone into the gym, but hey its a start. Laziness is no excuse for obesity. And that is all it is.


I just love the low fat foods what they don't tell people is they replace the fat with carbohydrates that the body turns to sugar. IE soy and rice fillers


Pure laziness to not go out and "take a hike" or go to the park and "fly a kite" Instead it is better to moan and complain that society is at fault for me feeling bad about myself....please


and how are the disabled going to do that. there are few gyms that even want people with serious health problem in there gyms even if they new how to help them.

I have sarcoidosis, neurosarcoidosis plus a heart attack(Myocardial sarcoidosis), fibromyalgia and diabetes caused by the sarcoidosis.
I was a volunteer fighter/EMT
www.inspire.com...

No gym wants me in there business because of liability. Even to just use the hot tub or sauna even though i have been cleared by my doctor.

And yes i am over weight due to metabolic syndrome due to the inability to exercise due to the sarcoidosis.

And no i do not over eat. I eat less then 100 grams carbs a day to control my diabetes.
And this is hard to do because there are few foods out there for diabetics.

And if i ever saw one of those benchs it would not work long as i can still swing a hammer.

In my time as a EMT i saw many people that were over weight due to disablities and the medical profession ignores these people because doctors are taught that people are over weight because of overeating and not taught how to treat people that are overweight due to medical problems not caused by overeating.
Very few doctors even have the training to tell the difference.
They just look at the person and "assume" they over-eat.




posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 08:01 PM
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Its a stupid idea and a waste of taxpayer money. Obese folks place a heavy (pun intended) drain on the medical system. So do smokers, drinkers and folks who play extreme sports. Obese folks are the only folks who think they have a right to be "acknowledged" for their vice(granted there are folks who have legit medical reasons where they can't lose weight). Most of these really heavy folks are just gluttons, the same way a gent who is hammered all the time is a drunk.

I could care less what people weigh, as long as they don't sit next to me on an airplane if they are 50lbs over weight.

On the healthy meal issue. I did some consulting to the fast food industry several years ago. 80% of the profits in the FF business come from 15% of the "clients". The term in the business for these folks is "heavy user". I can also tell you that the whole business, despite the "healthy alternatives" is targeted at folks who jam a whopper down their gullet several times a week and who the industry knows are either too lazy or too much of a chow hound to resist the newest, latest and greatest 3 patty burger with extra mayo, apple wood bacon, and what ever else they can slap on that bad boy to make fatty jump off the couch to get a few (along with a liter of Coke) at the drive thu. The drive thru so they don't have to walk to get it and so they can be half done eating it before they get home.

Seriously though, who cares. We all live with our vices and I don't see why one group needs to have their vice broadcast. Afterall, they don't need to wear a sign that says "I'm Fat". We can all pretty much figure that out.



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 03:33 AM
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Originally posted by sadisticwoman
reply to post by Merriman Weir
 


You're right, and it was extremely foolish of me to see this from only a woman's perspective. It's what happens, since I've only ever been a woman.


I've only ever been a man, but I'd like to think I can see things from a woman's perspective or at least a 'wider view'. I can't always be empathic with the plight of other people, but I'd like to think that doesn't stop me from being sympathetic.


This is a travesty for everyone, men and women. It's harmful to everyone.


Glad to see you amended your OP to match this wider view.


[edit on 21-3-2009 by Merriman Weir]



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 03:40 AM
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Originally posted by sadisticwoman
A bag of chips is cheaper than a healthy meal, and there's way more fast food crap than health food stores. You have no clue how so very wrong you are.


I'm going to have to question your math. I haven't been in a grocery store where a bag of brown rice costs more than a bag of chips, and the bag of rice weighs considerably more.

In fact, a bag of brown rice AND a bag of frozen vegetables together cost less than many brands of chips AND can be used to make multiple meals.

I have no clue where you are getting your twisted logic.



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 04:38 AM
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Originally posted by Wertdagf
If you hate yourself then you are ignorant.


That doesn't actually make any sense. Self-loathing actually comes from knowing things about yourself, often things that aren't seen or known by other people. There's no actual ignorance there.



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 08:57 AM
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They should stick a photo of a skeletal, malnourished African child right above the bench scale readout. Just to give everybody something to cry about.



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 09:13 AM
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sadistic women werent you one of the people in another thread tha was saying that fat kids should be taken away from their parents. i dont mean this as a personal attak but how can you slam this and then get behing CPS kindnapping overweight children for "the betterment of society"



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 09:22 AM
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I would like to build one of these. But mine would show a completely random number. I will include a choice that says " Is this your age, weight, or the size of your pornography collection?"



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by maus80
I'm going to have to question your math. I haven't been in a grocery store where a bag of brown rice costs more than a bag of chips, and the bag of rice weighs considerably more.

In fact, a bag of brown rice AND a bag of frozen vegetables together cost less than many brands of chips AND can be used to make multiple meals.

I have no clue where you are getting your twisted logic.


Well, where I live, a bag of chips (I presume these are 'crisps' as opposed to 'fries') is considerably cheaper than a bag of frozen veg and being a vegetarian I've also noticed the price of a lot of dried foods like lentils and rice double in price in some cases over the last 4 or 5 months. In fact, I can get a couple of multi-packs of crisps/chips for the price of a bag of frozen veg and a bag of brown rice. Yes, there are more expensive single bags of crisps/chips, but there are also more expensive bags of frozen veg and bags of brown rice.

Yes, there's several meals to be made from the vegetables and the rice and so on, but the crisps/chips are 'there and then' food. No preparation, no cooking and no serving - just eat right out of the bag.

I'm not saying this a good thing, just that if you're that way inclined cheaper and convenience is going to win hands down every time.

[edit on 21-3-2009 by Merriman Weir]



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 11:22 AM
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Well, good for you. Hopefully you're taking advantage of that, because not one store anywhere near where I live has such great prices.

reply to post by invisibleman11
 


I was trolling.



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 12:39 PM
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Of course it would seem wrong to an ignorant person. If those people choose to not remove that ignorance then they will suffer. There are people that understand that pain. There are people who have experiance much worse things...

complain about being to fat to a raped and murdered south african girl. Maybe the fattys should think about that. You dont like your fat diseased life? well you could always be raped and murdered.... Stop crying and do somthing about it.



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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this is predatory advertising and I am surprised to hear it is in the Netherlands.

Exploiting people for business has always been, but this is taking it to the next level.

What is next? Showing children's grades so that after school learning centers can advertise?

A face recognition program that tells you your ugly and shows you beauty products?

How about a person walking around with a picture showing bald men what they look like with hair so they will buy their hair rejeuvanation products?

So exactly where is the line?



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by Wertdagf
reply to post by Merriman Weir
 


Of course it would seem wrong to an ignorant person.


Now are you calling me ignorant?

Ignorance is a lack of knowing. Fat people with self-loathing aren't suffering from a lack of knowledge about themselves. It's because they know about themselves, the behavioural traps they get caught up in, that they can't stick to diets, how society sees them &c., that they become self-loathing.


If those people choose to not remove that ignorance then they will suffer. There are people that understand that pain. There are people who have experiance much worse things... complain about being to fat to a raped and murdered south african girl.


What ignorance? Self-loathing people don't have ignorance. Are you suggesting that fat people aren't aware or don't know about raped and murdered south African girls? What you're calling 'ignorance' isn't ignorance.

It's not about a 'who has endured more than who' contest either. These things are relative and I doubt anyone would genuinely claim they'd endured more than a "raped and murdered south african girl". You do understand what a straw man is, don't you. You do realise that you're attributing words and ideas to people that haven't actually said them, don't you?


Maybe the fattys should think about that. You dont like your fat diseased life? well you could always be raped and murdered.... Stop crying and do somthing about it.


Do you only deal in absolutes and 'all or nothings'?



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 01:38 PM
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Your right. They are ignorant of reality. They only see their own noses and emotions. If they cant see past themselves then they will choose death. Why worry about your loved ones watching you die slowly as long as you have a case of cookies and CSI miami?

Same goes for people that starve themselves. You choose life or death. It is all or nothing.... thats all infinity deals with.



posted on Mar, 22 2009 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by sadisticwoman
reply to post by maus80
 

Well, good for you. Hopefully you're taking advantage of that, because not one store anywhere near where I live has such great prices.


Every place I've lived in my country, the prices for healthy groceries have been pretty consistently low. If that is luck, then yes I have been lucky; but it leads me to believe that the majority of US citizens have access to reasonably priced, healthy food.

For as long as I have worked, I have been helping many different struggling friends, especially single parents, keep their kids stocked with fresh produce and healthy snacks.

It really doesn't cost much for me to do it either. I volunteer at a Salvation Army store, and they are forever getting those hand held blenders that you stick down into the cup, often new in the box. I get these for $1 and give them to friends kids, and my nieces and nephews. They use them to make fruit & veggie smoothies and popsicles, and virtually all of them are a healthy weight. If you can just get a kid to chow down on organic popsicles all summer, they get all the healthy fresh food they need. You can add spinach, cucumbers, tomatoes, cantaloupe, carrots, and as long as you put in plenty of apples and honey they don't notice or care that they are eating healthy.
It's not people's wallets that make the difference, it's their mentality.



posted on Mar, 24 2009 @ 08:25 PM
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I am not all for displaying the weight of the person sitting down. It just seems unprofessional in many senses.

Actually talking about the overweight "epidemic"...I could care less as long as you are happy and do not stink up the area around me!

Respect yourself and I will respect you. If you are happy with yourself, then you have my respect.

My personal opinion though, even though I believe in freedom of choice, people with overweight problems should still try to become a bit more healthy. If not - so be it.



posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 03:02 AM
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Originally posted by sadisticwoman




This isn't helpful, it doesn't spur one to be healthy- it spurs one to think the world is out to get you, that the world won't accept you for your weight- no matter what that weight may be.

[edit on 20-3-2009 by sadisticwoman]


I do not argee with you at all on this one and I admire the zest in which you stick to your opinions (i've read a number of your posts). I used to be over weight and never minded it very much. Then I moved to a new job and people would make comments. That motiviated me to get in shape and loose 40lbs. I'm a healthier person because of it, so I'm very happy people poked fun at my weight. Their mean comments helped me become healthier, plain and simple. Perhaps it's ok to poke fun at someone if the end result will be them helping themselves become better? I'm dunno, it does seem really mean though and prehaps the ends do not justify the means. Do they ever?



posted on Apr, 13 2009 @ 10:12 AM
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It's disgusting for a sign to exploit someones weight for the single reason that they decided to sit down.
Although I know that it affects everyone, male or female, I can make a pretty good assumption that more females would be bothered by this. It's not even a question of being overweight or not, there always seems to be pressure to be thinner.



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 07:10 PM
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I tell my man, who is heavier, all the time that he is more "manly". As far as I'm concerned that IS the equivalant of curvier women being referred to as "womanly". He is my "bear" and my "bull" and I wouldn't have him any other way.



posted on May, 7 2009 @ 07:16 PM
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Id just use spray paint and paint over it if i was pissed off, or ashamed of it. if it repeatedly gets vandalised, it will stop being repaired or cleaned.



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