Northrop patents Next Gen bomber configuration, page 1
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reply posted on 20-3-2009 @ 11:38 AM by Zaphod58
reply to post by RFBurns



A jacked up B-1? Don't you mean B-2, as this looks nothing like a B-1.

This is going to be replacing the B-52s and some of the B-1s. The B-52s are already almost 50 years old. Bombs can fly themselves, but not with a ton of range.


reply posted on 20-3-2009 @ 11:46 AM by FredT
reply to post by RFBurns



Next gen bombers are supposed to be designed for all aspect stealth and be able to deal with long wave frequencies etc.

The nature of the threat has changed as does the bomber. Once built a purpose stealth airframe is not easy modified to deal with changes in threats.


reply posted on 21-3-2009 @ 01:02 PM by C0bzz
reply to post by ACEMANN



To get speed, a compromise must be made. Essentially, stealth will have to be reduced, payload will have to be reduced, and range will have to be reduced. Or price will have to be increased. The real question is this; how do we get a platform that can penetrate enemy airspace at minimum monetary and developmental risk while retaining maximum effectiveness? Probably a VLO all aspect stealth flying wing over anything else.

Looks simply to be a jacked up B-1...or should I say...a B-1 on steroids.

Looks more like a B-2; but is smaller and significantly more stealthy.

How much is this one....100 million each?

Probably 185 million, minimum; as a guess. Given the kick down capability it provides, it isn't all that bad. Let's hope it doesn't get bloated to high hell like most other aircraft; it getting to 300 million wouldn't surprise me the slightest.

What happend to the longevity of the B-1 as it was sales pitched back in its heyday?

The DC-3 has also proven to be so; but that doesn't mean we should be procuring new DC-3 aircraft, even though over the years technology and requirements change. The lines for the B-1 and B-2 have been shut down, torn to shreds, the aircraft themselves designed for a different time, and a different need. A 1970's aircraft obviously CANNOT take us to 2030+ where it will be unsurvivable therefore restricted to limited stand-off munitions, like the B-52. This is not what the NGB requirement is for.

If we needed a bomb truck then we would only keep the B-1, or order some modified 737's.

Why do we need a fleet of high speed bombers when those bombs can be launched from orbiting satellite platforms and high altitude carrier aircraft?

Given such a bomb would be ballistic, and newer systems such as the S-400 are anti ballistic Missile shields, tells us that unless the Mach 30 re-entry vehicles are stealthy, any such vehicle would likely be unsurvivable. To get the vehicle to re-enter the atmosphere energy must be taken away, i.e. de-orbit burn. These take large amounts of time, and even then bombing would be constrained to certain orbital planes at certain times of the day. Space based munitions simply cannot make up for a hundred or so bombers carrying 14,000-28,000 lb of weapons; flying multiple sorties a day, on ANY basis. Cost, no. Risk, no. Survivability, no.

If we go into the realm of fantasy we can easily add string theory weapons disintegrating the enemy without physical interaction. Doesn't mean it will happen though.


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reply posted on 25-3-2009 @ 08:42 AM by C0bzz
reply to post by Zaphod58



I'll bet $50 the actual plane will not have canards.

Looks draggy, unnessesary, unstealthy, to me.


reply posted on 25-3-2009 @ 11:49 AM by punkinworks09
reply to post by Harlequin



a project that was scrapped 40 years ago, and our early warning system would track the launch and subsequent orbital path of the vehicle, 40 years ago.

What difference would it have made anyway, MAD would have been assured.
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