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Subject: No one can sell any ammunition after June 30, 2009

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posted on Mar, 26 2009 @ 09:06 PM
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Yes these bills have been floating around. They are up for review again and we now have a Democratic House, Senate and President.

I'm not out to fear monger people. They need to know.

I am opposed to such a bill. I hope you are too.












[edit on 26-3-2009 by wonderworld]




posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 12:15 AM
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Reading through the California legislation, I don't see where untagged ammunition sales would be banned after a certain date. I don't see any reference to ammunition. Could you point out specific sections for any of the states?



posted on Mar, 27 2009 @ 10:10 AM
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Yes, here is my states bill.




You might read the strict ID laws,, as well.



posted on Mar, 28 2009 @ 03:43 PM
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Just to play devils advocate here..

What would the average citizen have to be afraid of? Aside from spending an extra dollar on a box of rounds, how would it actually impact your life?



posted on Mar, 29 2009 @ 03:56 AM
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Alright. I bookmarked this thread. And I'm coming back here after June 30, 2009 to see if any one can sell any ammunition. And if it has a serial number on it then we'll have to talk about that.



posted on Mar, 29 2009 @ 07:52 AM
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You realize that if you’re buying ammo now with a credit card or debit card they know how much and what you are buying right?

If you pay in cash they really can’t trace the purchase. You can even have someone buying ammo for you as well if they do a thing where you must sign for the ammo. The person buying it can buy as much of any type they want since there is not a limit that I know of too.

The only reason the price of ammo has went up now and why some are harder to find is everyone made a run on ammo after Obama got elected. Making a run on anything is really sort of stupid. If you show little interest or give the impression of showing little interest they will show little as well. But by making a huge deal about things you tend to draw attention to what you want.

Really I am not sure what the point of this bill is considering I have heard they want to increase the tax on ammo quite a bit. Again though I think legislation is being pushed so much so quickly because everyone made a run on ammo after the election.

Raist



posted on Mar, 29 2009 @ 05:27 PM
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it won't be simple and straight forward, especially when coded ammo is stolen and used by criminals. what about counterfeiting? you still won't know who committed the crime. the courts will be stuck trying to determine if someone actually committed a crime or if their ammo was stolen or counterfeited. many who do commit crimes will file a report saying their ammo was stolen, others will have to prove their innocence as opposed to having the system prove their guilt.

this will not work. this will be extremely lucrative for criminals and will spawn a new black market for cops to deal with.



posted on Mar, 30 2009 @ 12:38 PM
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It’s not that we fear this. It angers me.

The tax is no problem, however having the Feds know what I own and how much is disturbing.

The federal database is VERY intrusive! It is one step closer to a complete gun ban. I also don’t like the thought of destroying all my uncoded ammo by 2011.

This further infringes on my rights. I posted a link to my states ammo bill. It may be back a page or so.

I am opposed to further Federal regulations.

We’ve recently turned to a Socialists government and may soon be communist. There is a fine line between the 2.

I expect a Federal database for everything soon. Not just coded ammo.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 06:13 PM
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The NRA has suggested private citizens could be required to keep records on anyone who uses or buys their ammunition – even family members and friends.

Just a small update.



posted on Apr, 6 2009 @ 07:17 PM
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ok whatever they say- i'll be sure to keep a detailed log of it

yeah right pfffft

maybe we will have to keep a log of what cartridges, dates, times, # of rounds fired off and the location too i suppose.

.!.



posted on Apr, 7 2009 @ 09:27 PM
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It seems we have new sh## on the table in New york and possibly Illinois. Those dirty rat bas#####





posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 11:21 AM
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huh that is hard to believe when you consider new york is a huge sparsely populated state but is controlled solely by nyc, same as illinois with chicago

hope you get the sarcasm

I don't care what those states think or do i live in pa- and as far as i am concerned the feds should have no control over firearms or ammo as it is our CONSTITUIONAL RIGHT TO BEAR THEM! feds have to much control because ny, illinois, cali, and joysey are the leading states against guns and have alot of power in congress



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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Simply put...No amount of legislation will stop humans from transferring large amounts of Kinetic energy to other humans they dont like.



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 11:42 AM
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very true.
and all that any gun or ammo laws will do is turn law abiding citizens into criminals for no reason while the real criminals will feel like they suddenly hit the lottery



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 05:18 PM
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Good point! I think we should write our representitives those exact words.




posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 05:27 PM
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Isnt that the truth about "" turn law abiding citizens into criminals for no reason"" It's so manipulative.

If I paid cash for my ammo I have no intension of destroying it by a certain date. Then to be in possesion of uncoded ammo I'm a criminal.

I had to recently search through lots od new proposals to find the lastest New york Bill. It had the coded ammo law snuch in between about 50 other non-gun laws.

I hope these guys read before signing! This new one is up for view in the 2009-2010 session.

SCARY!



[edit on 8-4-2009 by wonderworld]



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 05:30 PM
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I always pay cash for ammo, with only one exception. Not enough for that transaction to matter though.

Soon they will be asking for ID and add you to a database!

[edit on 8-4-2009 by wonderworld]



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 05:33 PM
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OOPS I forgot to add that latest link


nssf.org...



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 05:49 PM
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yep that is what they want- keep making laws so everyone becomes a criminal for no reason and has to go to those fema camps.
i am a law abiding citizen and have no criminal record but suddenly i may be one? c'mon
maybe the criminals in washington should take their heads out of their a## and wise up and see how hypocritical and corrupt they are



posted on Apr, 8 2009 @ 06:40 PM
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I'm glad we are friends. You have a damn good point about those FEMA camps. ""Uncoded ammo Bust"" A federal offense. Yeh, it's seems crazy!





Did you check out the latest NewYork link I just added. I have yet to check Illionois but will.


Serialized ammunition A fancy word for Coded.


losttarget.blogspot.com...

www.saami.org...




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[edit on 8-4-2009 by wonderworld]



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