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Genetic Influences on Alcohol Drinking and Alcoholism
The quest for genes that influence alcohol abuse follows two paths. One goal is to locate genes that predispose a person to alcoholism. The other is to identify genes that help to prevent this from happening. Li and his coworkers have made important advances in this latter category. "We have identified two genes that protect against heavy drinking, and these are particularly prevalent among Asians," Li says. "We have shown that Native Americans, who have a high rate of alcoholism, do not have these protective genes. The one that is particularly effective is a mutation of the gene for the enzyme aldehyde dehydrogenase, which plays a major role in metabolizing alcohol. The mutation is found very frequently in Chinese and Japanese populations but is less common among other Asian groups, including Koreans, the Malayo-Polynesian group, and others native to the Pacific Rim. "We've also looked at Euro-Americans, Native Americans, and Eskimos, and they don't have that gene mutation," says Li. Thus, incidentally, the study of genetic mutations and alcoholism links native North-American populations to central Asian ancestors, not to those from China and Japan.
Originally posted by Donny 4 million
No Gene for Alcoholism, but a possible way to measure Human evolution.
(my calculated guess is 7 -8,000 years ago) and if they past that process west, the numbers from the data start to make sense.
Originally posted by JacKatMtn
Call me dense, but it is early in the morning could you explain in laymans terms exactly what you want to prove.
Are you attempting identify a genetic marker for alcoholism?
My title for the thread says No Gene For Alcoholics.
Ah ha but it does say there should be one for non drinking Chinese. You see, before mankind started boozing why would he need a gene for it. After several thousand years of consumption he developed one or some.
It seems a very interesting premise, one that you would think has been attempted in the past... or has it?
Your external content says the marker has finally been found, in the Chinese. Neat that it took a guy named Li to find it and not a NIH, Smith or Jones.
That is the mutation that keeps them from consuming (ingesting). It should be developing in the India, Indian population then eventually in about 6,500 years from now in the N American and Australian aboriginals.
And then they will be unable to ingest also. That is if all the other societies follow Chinese development.
Can you date that source for me?
Good luck with your research,
You seem good at it as well. It's amazing what you can find and figure.
just don't expect me to donate some blood...
Then we will get it from your brother when he is asleep.
My research ended 20 years ago on this one when the NIH told me that since I didn't buy a University diploma I was disqualified to be heard.
[edit on 24-3-2009 by Donny 4 million]
Originally posted by virraszto
My great-grandfather was an alcoholic. My grandfather was an alcoholic. My dad was an alcoholic. My brother was an alcoholic.
My grandfather didn't know his dad. My father didn't know his dad. My brother was raised my our dad, and he is the only one of 5 that is an alcoholic.
I think your family should participate in the study that JKATMT posted about!
A foot note---
A little known fact that helped me in my research.
Women during child bearing years are 90 percent less alcoholic than men.
I beleive smoking and drinking are compulsive adictive traits and possibly in the realm of JKATMT's external source information. The markers they found that inhib alcohol consumption were not assigned to a particular trait as I remember.
I think it's genetic.
Correct if the predisposition to alcoholism is HEALTH.
Edited to add: Maybe there is a gene that predisposes people to addictions?
[edit on 21-3-2009 by virraszto]
Originally posted by The Great Day
Thats like saying developing an allergie to peanuts is proof of evolution.
I only have a reaction when I eat them with Brandy.
The further we get away from the way we were designed to live the more toxic our mind, soul and body become.
I think so as well.
There is no gene for alcoholism
My contention exactly.
because it is a disease of the mind.
The mind is governed by a fine tuned mass of genes.
And people predisposed have been shaped that way from life experiences.
And genes, in my opinion.
Your father cant pass the gene but he sure can pass the behavior.
Both in my opinion.