MadWorld: 'most violent computer game ever' launched on Nintendo Wii

I am under 18 and I don't give a really care about all these ratings. I play GTA IV, and all other 18+ games. I do this because I know I am not being affected by the violence. However, its true that some people are so they should be cautious in sales

It all comes down to, this is an adult game, made by adults for adults. No one has the right to tell an adult what is too violent for them. Kids are going to play it of course, but kids drink beer, kids screw, they curse, they do all the other things that adults do. Why does everyone get in such a tissy about music and video games. Funny, i'm sure anyone who has ever done a school shooting has played mario and listened to kelly clarkson, no one protests them as causing violence. Piece of # ppl do piece of # things, so it is written , so shall it be done, there is no way of avoiding it.

so any film book or other media that depicts war fighting or violence in any way is also bad ??

my grandad told me war stories it didnt make me want to kill japanese people because he faught out there aginst them

wrestling games dont make me wana fight people to hit with steel chaird

its a game end of the day its not gona hurt any 1 if there mature enoth to play it
thats why theres age restrictions

Originally posted by N3krostatic


Exactly my point! It is the type of thinking, entertainment or whatever you may call it that we indulge in which contributes to be a huge eroding part of society

Originally posted by N3krostatic
So since everyone in life is murdering, raping, plundering and the like makes it ok to fantasize about it?

I got about half way through this thread before I really felt the need to comment on your hypocrisy...

Look at your avatar: scary macho alien/person/thing brandishing a huge GUN.
Look at your alias: Necrostatic. Like death, do we?

Using your argument you, yourself are part of the 'problem'.


Back on topic somewhat, violent games are great - some such as GTA4 are very anti-establishment/NWO, for example the radio stations in the game talking about giving up your freedom due to false 'terrorism' fears. Governments, banks and corporations controlling everything you experience in life, etc. It's not all about killing, some have a very good message if you care to look.

In my opinion the only thing that effects an individual's desire to run amok killing people is deficiencies in that persons mind and some perceived wrong that has been done to them by society.

Plenty of very violent games out there, Soldier of Fortune series, GTA series, and many more, I remember a game called Postal! frome years ago of which the aim was to kill everbody in the town (as far as I can remember). They've been around for years and computer games have enourmous audiences, so why do we not have droves of homicidal, sociopathic, psychotic killers on the loose?

Oh wait! its because it is only a scapegoat.

I personally quite enjoy a virtual sadistic streak, I find it hilarious. I'd never do anything like that to anybody though.

I couldn't agree more with the person who said people shouldn't care what other people do in the privacy of their own home. What you do in your home is up to you, Im sure there are plenty of prudes who would ban certain sexual fetishes purely because THEY don't like them. The same can be applied to visual media and computer games. If YOU don't like it, don't buy it.

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Not a game i would play, seriously whats wrong with people wanting to play this rubbish? However freedom allows such games to exist so i'll support the right of the publishers to make it and sell it.

Originally posted by CloudySkye
I remember a game called Postal! frome years ago of which the aim was to kill everbody in the town (as far as I can remember).

To be fair, Postal!'s point wasn't to kill everyone in town, it was to complete the missions given to you.

Missions like "Get some milk" could be completed by either searching the town for the money to buy the milk, stealing the milk, stealing the money to buy the milk... etc.

The point wasn't ever to kill everyone, the game was just built as a sandbox, violence being one of several means to an end.

Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984

Not a game i would play, seriously whats wrong with people wanting to play this rubbish?

Nothing, what's wrong with people who feel there is something wrong with other people who do not share their points of view?

[edit on 3/20/2009 by eNumbra]

Well in all truth and honesty from me (yes, my opinion) it's just a game. But........................look at the world. Violence has been going on for ages. Whether it's games, movies, books, you name it, there is violence. I find it very harsh for everyone to knock on the person that made this thread. I don't care who you are, just killing in general is stupid. Whether it be in movies, games, or non-historical books. Look at society. We blame God for everything we do. Are we not man enough to clean up our own messes? All sorts of forms of entertainment for us is things dying. Why? Because there is nothing better than running around throwing grenades or shooting zombies? I find it the more we let anyone near this stuff, the more hatred the world will have. (The people on this thread are a perfect example by the way) I understand that not everyone kills but these forms of entertainment period is rediculous. One statistic I came across in the news was that every 32 min. a porn film is being made. I just can't believe humans. Sex is to creates other beings, not for entertainment. I know countless people will disagree with me but who is the more easily angered? I can't do anything about this but voice my opinion and even though games are games, humans beings seem to never cherish life but instead take it for granted or destroy it. Where is the love?

Originally posted by Water-tastes-good
Sex is to creates other beings, not for entertainment.

Then your doing it wrong

This article is rubbish, and it's annoying when I see people in this thread taking it seriously and having a cow over it, with the typical "What is this place coming too?" and "How could anyone play this?".

STOP acting like this is something new, and stop acting like it's going to change anyone in any way that would impact anything significantly at all!

Wasn't it the Mayans that executed the person who lost in a game of ball? Or gladiators that were pitted against one another to fight to the death for public entertainment?

This is nothing compared to that. And you know what else? It's digital entertainment. Really -- healthy, mature people who play a game, realize that it's just that -- a game and nothing else. Remember when Doom came out? Yeah, same annoying and zealous people complained about it's "excessive" violence.

Originally posted by Tentickles
There's a reason the game is rated M for mature.

Children shouldnt be playing it.

Exactly! And if parents had any shred of intelligence, they'd be able to teach their kid the difference between fantasy and reality. THAT'S the problem with video game/movie violence.

Why not stop going after these games and concentrate your efforts on reducing the amount of violence on the six o'clock news, instead? Kinda seems a bit more important, don't you think?

Originally posted by stereovoyaged

Originally posted by Water-tastes-good
Sex is to creates other beings, not for entertainment.

Then your doing it wrong

I agree.

If its not entertaining for you then may I suggest expanding your horizons. It is a wonderfully entertaining thing.

So is playing a violent video game after a hard day at work. We all have tough days where we just want to jam the nearest pen in someones eye or smack someone in the head with a shovel.

Violent video games gives you the outlet to do this without hurting someone.

I am a 48 year old mother of 3 and have played this game.

I have no violet tendencies. The game is set in a comic book like look. Never heard of people complaining about how a violent comic book made someone go postal.

Pretty ridiculous that any of you can get mad at a video game, yet continue to support hollywood who throw all this violence on a big screen instead of your own t.v. Your kids are exposed to this no matter what, get over it. You don't see kids running around with chainsaws? When you buy action figures for your children what do they do with they? They fight. People today need to stop blaming video games and the media for violence. Violence is caused by irresponsibility, stupidity, and prior violence. Not a nintendo wii game.

Pathetic.

Originally posted by N3krostatic

Originally posted by Willbert
reply to post by InfaRedMan

 

P.S. It's entertainment for you and others... With that argument.. you could say mass murders and any other delinquent atrocity is entertainment to those individuals and those like them. Only difference is they enacted their thoughts.. while those who relish this type of pass time, games, also think along the same lines.

[edit on 20-3-2009 by Willbert]

Exactly my point! It is the type of thinking, entertainment or whatever you may call it that we indulge in which contributes to be a huge eroding part of society. Spectators..... It's all fun in a game, it's all fun when its not real. Why is that?

Ok: first a little, little hint: thoughts are not crimes. Right now i am thinking about .... building a nuke in my basement and blow the whole city to cinders while going "mauahahahahahahaha"

...

Wanna come and arrest me?

second: When i saw that outer limits episode (the 60s version, not the 90ies) where in the last scene the catholic priest goes "Yup, lets commit mass suicide, its our best course of action" And the whole city agrees and ... commits mass suicide (offscreen) i went "wow" You couldnt do that today anymore. Its a shame really

third: I must congratulate nintendo for coming up with the "Tis is te most violent game eva" idea for making people talk about it. No one *ever* tried that before.

Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
reply to post by N3krostatic

 

Not a game i would play, seriously whats wrong with people wanting to play this rubbish?

Nothing! Every one has their own tastes, every one is different. Just because it's a game that YOU wouldn't play, doesn't mean some thing is wrong with people who would play it.

It's like saying, "Dude, why are you playing online pool? I wouldn't play that, whats wrong with you"?


Edit: Now before anyone makes the argument of, "Well people kill in real life and I don't agree with it, is that wrong"?
No it's not, but it's not my point as well. We're talking fantasy here. A video game.

I do agree that violent games give people ideas that could result in tragic consequences. Mix alcohol or any thing else that messes with your sense of judgment, and you get stories like this.
MK Death


[edit on 20-3-2009 by Slash]

Video game companies just try to make money. Violence sells, obviously. These games aren't invented for the niche psycho closet would be serial killer, they're made for the general public. I have way more problems with a Japanese rape video game then I ever would about this one. As someone else pointed out.. there were plenty of mass murderers, school shootings, whatever else.. before video games even existed. What it would take for say.. a guy like Albert Fish to get revved up to go out and commit his next rape/murder whatever I can't say. Maybe he got hopped up on reefer and listened to some jazz music which were both considered evil in his day. I have a strong feeling though, that it doesn't matter. If you are sick, you are sick, period. If I write down an intricate narrative about going out and killing someone what does that make me if I never act on it? As bad as Mr Fish? Should Stephen King and Dean Koontz have all their books banned too? It is just a stupid blame game. Why blame the person when you can blame a video game or a movie or a book? I've played several violent video games. I can't speak for everyone, but I can say for myself.. what it would take to actually impale someone, blow their head off, whatever.. in real life.. is a hell of a lot different than a video game. Peronsally, I can stomach the games, books, movies etc.. hell I even enjoy a lot of them, but if it came down to a life or death situation.. even if I had to kill someone out of self defense.. I'd feel sick to my soul. In no way do I feel that my capacity to kill, regret, or know right from wrong, is affected by this type of media. I'd wager that the majority of sane folks would back me up.

I have no problem with the marketing of violent video games.
It appears they are just tapping in to natural human tendencies.
I do think it kind of sucks that those ARE natural human tendencies.

Although the comparison to violent movies, TV shows, etc, doesn't quite cut it.
The immersion factor is completely different. Other media is a passive experience. Not so with video games.

But wait, people REALLY got upset about a sex scene, between a game character, and his game character girlfriend. One of the Grand theft games I think?

So, shooting, stealing, gang warfare, that was all ok. But parents were upset about the sex scene..LOL

Originally posted by mpriebe81
reply to post by daeoeste

 

Man I need a new pc

I want to play C&C so baaaaad!!!

I miss the days of AOE2, Myth w/ Codex, and of course Starcraft. You didn't need a beastly machine just to run them

Getting a new pc in a few weeks so i'll be all over SOMETHING!!

How is this relevent to the topic?

Originally posted by spacedoubt
But wait, people REALLY got upset about a sex scene, between a game character, and his game character girlfriend. One of the Grand theft games I think?

So, shooting, stealing, gang warfare, that was all ok. But parents were upset about the sex scene..LOL

They were upset that it was "hidden" content. (not accessible without modding the games files) And thus was not part of what the reviewers took into consideration at the time. Hence as the line of thinking goes, pornographic content was sold to people under the age of 18. Mostly because M is 17+ but if the porn was advertised on the box, it's patently obvious that here in America at least, far fewer parents would have bought it for their 12,13,14 year olds.

It was an excuse to get the game labeled AO (adults only) getting it banned from many stores via a number of moral police who refuse to sell AO games at all.

You have to remember here in America, naughty words and nudity are terrible deplorable things that may as well be sins against god and violence doesn't matter.


I wholeheartedly agree with you that it sucks that human nature includes a few less admirable tendencies; but there remains little substance to the tenuous links of video games and violent tendencies.

[edit on 3/20/2009 by eNumbra]