MadWorld: 'most violent computer game ever' launched on Nintendo Wii

reply to post by spacedoubt


I refuse to indulge in a scorching debate tonight as I understand I will not sway any one's opinions but as you stated I agree. Is this what we call entertainment?

In my mind we are as spectators of Rome. I consider myself somewhat conservative and when we sit down in front of the TV at night to relax we enjoy watching and playing such things?

Also responsible parenting is not a good enough excuse as we know that it is not as prevalent as we may wish. With that in mind how much easier is it for the moldable minds of the coming generation to obtain twisted games like these?

I've put in my 2 cents.

Just as violent as what they see realistically on the news?
Just as violent as gang members running the streets?
Just as violent as the movies their parents let them(or let them not) watch?
I think that people need to get their heads out of their asses and figure out the real problem to their childrens behaviour, and its not video games.
How many of the kids out there play video games such as this and do very well in school?
The way I look at it, they are just trying to control the way we parent our own children.
Personally, I wouldnt mind if my kids played video games, hell I let my nieces and nephews play video games all of the time.
However, I let them play the games that are appropriate for their age groups.
Im tired of hearing the "well if they really wanted to play it, they will find a way"..hell, If they wanted to look at aporno they would find a way. If they wanted to smoke a cigarette, they will find a way. If they wanted to get a sack of some of gods flowers, they would find a way. that whole areguement is ridiculous.
reminds me of that movie Tripple X..
"Its just a game, D*ck".
"D.ck, your a bad man, and you know what we do to bad men, we punish them".
if you ask me, it does more harm to fight this, than it does to let the parents control the way that their children are raised. Govt should NOT be involved in stuff like this, just as they shouldnt be involved in Internet Censorship. Its all foul play.
On that note, Ima go rent that game and bring it to my friends house so we can practice sticking zombies in light sockets to get prepared for the Apacalypse. so stupid.

reply to post by N3krostatic


Ha ha, ha ha! Why did they chose the Wii! Out of every gaming system to convince people games are bad why did they chose the Wii? Have they played video games? What?

Lol, the Wii. Nintendo is the spreader of violence! I am sure this article is over exaggerated. Does Nintendo even make violent games? (That a hypothetical question)

This whole argument about a "game" is pathetic really...

If games are so bad.. then "World of Warcraft" should be banned. It has a player base of 6 million last i checked.

If you want to turn it into the devil it would be easy, just say the game teaches people how to set themselves into "groups" to take down other "groups" in a violent manner.... hmmm that sounds like a GANG to me. Oh no... Warcraft is teaching our children to behave like gang members.... puuuuhlease.

Finally a game that makes me want a Wii. I was thinking about purchasing one because my PS3 is getting tiresome. If anybody thinks a game like this is bad or creates issues then they're as misguided as the souls who happen to do violent acts and then blame them on video games.

This type of violent video game has one purpose. That is to entertain a user in a fantasy. Everyone has violent fantasies every once in a while and the more we play them in video games and less in real life the better... When is the game coming out again?

reply to post by _Phoenix_

Originally posted by _Phoenix_
...hypocrite?

I'm sufficiently satisfied that is not the case.

Originally posted by _Phoenix_
Do you see?

Indeed.

My apparent skill to consistently choose non-violent forms of entertainment must be so rare an ability as to render me either uniquely gifted or the thorough victim of my own delusional mind.

...or maybe I'm just one of the 'normal' guys, horribly trapped in a nightmarish reality populated by a bunch of crazies.

[edit on 19-3-2009 by loam]

reply to post by CaptainCaveMan

Originally posted by CaptainCaveMan
Why is it, any of your concern, what other people want to do?
Unless they are doing it, to you?

This is the big problem with this world.
People finding what other people want to do in the privacy of there own home, wrong.
Its none of anyone's business what other people do.

Before you pointlessly chase that mail truck down the dirt road, you should probably scan my post history.

My point was NOT a legislative one....It was the expression of an opinion-- a personal judgment.

I'd soundly defend your ability to feed your personal depravity all you want. But that doesn't mean I have to like you.

Moreover, you can bet your ass everything changes if I find they are "doing it" to me at any time.

[edit on 20-3-2009 by loam]

Good way to mold us adults to accept violence at any degree so when the # hits the fan, some can just accept it as unreal and keep playing in their virtual worlds. Or embrace it and giggle with glee that their virtual worlds have become real....

Originally posted by Faiol
man, if games make children shootings ... so we will have to ban every single movie that violence , sex .... wait, life ......

man. the games are not the problem ... the problem is with the society itself

Yes the problem is society and this kind of thing is a contributing factor regardless of the justifications.
So since everyone in life is murdering, raping, plundering and the like makes it ok to fantasize about it?

You know what, to hell with it. lets justify everything horrible we do or allow.

It's ok as long as you don't do it in real life RIGHT? It's the thought that counts and every single contributing factor in society such as games similar to this, the porn industry, the video industry, the news is a byproduct of the people within it and the people that allow it to continue to grow.

No, violent games are not the only available source of twisted logic and excusable horrendous behavior. THERE ARE MANY!
The most important point is that these kind of things are protected by people like seen here ultimately further twisting the minds of society. Even the ones that know better should think twice about their sick little game, video, porn fantasies.

Throw a label on it and hyperbolize by saying yeah lets just ban everything! That changes nothing. Yeah kids will find porn, cigarettes and the like if they want but it will be much harder to locate them if they are not looked upon with apathy. It would be less if we did not indulge in their creation because of our personal wants and fantasies.

This is a byproduct of a diseased society no matter how you will justify it.


[edit on 20-3-2009 by N3krostatic]

Originally posted by Styki
I am sure this article is over exaggerated. Does Nintendo even make violent games? (That a hypothetical question)

Having worked for Nintendo Marketing & Promotions for four years in the late 90's (N64), I can assure you that Nintendo's core market was children & family oriented games.

This is actually the reason the N64 failed in direct competition with Sony's Playstation. They lost a heap of market share to Sony who were catering to adults with a higher expendable income.

Nintendo hasn't changed much since I stopped working for them. They are still hooked into the same core market... however, perhaps after years of endless complaints from adult gamers, Nintendo have finally taken their heads out of their butts. Many people said they grew up with Nintendo and then grew out of them.

Perhaps this is a move to win over some of their old gamers... and a play towards those of higher disposable income given the economic crisis many companies are experiencing.

IRM

Originally posted by Willbert
Good way to mold us adults to accept violence at any degree so when the # hits the fan, some can just accept it as unreal and keep playing in their virtual worlds. Or embrace it and giggle with glee that their virtual worlds have become real....

This is not the case at all. Not everything is a conspiracy mate. They make the games because there is a market crying for them. It's just entertainment and nothing more. However, if you want to be paranoid about it and imagine dark shadows looming around every corner, go right ahead.

IRM

How many people play voilent video games and don't commit crimes? I do and have never hurt another person. It's just entertainment and nothing more. I grew up watching voilent movies and such. I've been watching voilence since I was 5 years old. I'm 32 years old and never hurt anyone.

How many people don't play voilent video games but commit voilent crimes? Lots the world is full of sick people.

There are always gonna be sick and twisted poeple in this world who like to hurt other people. If someones gonna hurt another person thier gonna do it wether they play violent video games or not.

Let me ask some of you pasifists something. If someone made you watch 100 video clips of voilent acts perpatraited on innocent people would that make you want to hurt other people? Probobly not right?

Violent video games and movies are a way to experiance something without having to live it. Those that can't seperate entertainment from reality are already sick to begin with.

I chopped 200 heads off with a sword in a video game once and it never crossed my mind to do it to human being in real life.

Originally posted by N3krostatic


Is this the state we have fallen to? I mean seriously. And just thinking about children playing this. No wonder we have school shootings. Such a violent world is it not?

Theatrics and special effects always seem to making awful and otherwise sick things cool. Media distortion IMHO is completely tweaking our lifestyle and this is just another way.

Anyway thought this was worth reading and could not find another thread about it.


www.telegraph.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

We had school shootings before video game consoles were invented. The first video game console was the Magnavox Odyssey and it launched in 1972.

Six years before the first video game console was released a student named Charles Whitman shot and killed 14 people and injured 32 others at his school in Texas.

reply to post by InfaRedMan


Games need approval... There is a regulatory body outside gaming companies that give the go ahead for games to be released to the populace.


P.S. It's entertainment for you and others... With that argument.. you could say mass murders and any other delinquent atrocity is entertainment to those individuals and those like them. Only difference is they enacted their thoughts.. while those who relish this type of pass time, games, also think along the same lines.

[edit on 20-3-2009 by Willbert]

reply to post by Willbert


And game concepts are created by developers via focus groups and 'wish lists'. What this means is that the game developer designs the game that hopefully everyone will want to buy and play. It's market driven. If you're trying to tell me otherwise, you're plain wrong... sorry!

If you don't understand the process, I'm more than happy to explain it to you in simpler terms.

Trust someone who spent years in the industry.

IRM

reply to post by TwiTcHomatic


oh my god, rise of the triad

now thats going back!!!

reply to post by InfaRedMan


I understand very well what marketing is and how it falsifies its products to give the impression its what everyone should have.

That aside.. the only service gaming companies have is greed and filling that niche to cover certain markets. Making disturbing material more easily available to more individuals only allows others who've never thought of such "entertainment" will be exposed more readily.

Just because the numbers add up on the bottom line for the companies does not make it morally correct.

reply to post by N3krostatic


Thanks for that! S&F

I think what must be remembered here is that even adults shouldn't playing these games. I mean are they going to soon allow games where you can rape a women and have fun doing it? these things are illegal and still have an effect on the adult human mind. A good check of this thread will show how many ADULTs are affected by the violent ads that are merely popping up on their screen. Then to think they have games where you select the way to snuff out your opponents life and have fun while doing it and then just because they label it as M for mature doesn't stop minds of a CHILD able to view the offensive material. When I say CHILD I use that in reference to adults who haven't the ability to see how we are all children, only knowing that portion of data that the PTB wish you to know.

Our minds will accept input from lots of sources, thereby affecting our perception to the world, unfortunately most of these sources nowadays are there to the populations detriment. All games have some type of brain stimulus going on that is negative to the human spirit. This game is one example and is turning our kids in killers and murderers with out them thinking that they're thinking wrongly.

This is called brainwashing... Or NLP

Rgds

Originally posted by AllTiedTogether
All games have some type of brain stimulus going on that is negative to the human spirit.

Tetris.

I also fail to see how you are comparing the reaction to annoying banner and pop-up ads to the supposed violence inducement of video games.