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Ron Paul, Bob Barr, Chuck Baldwin Considering Legal Action Over MIAC Document

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posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 08:34 AM
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S&F. I signed it because I live by the words "Death Before Dishonor". I even have it inked in my skin
What is the use in living in fear? It is every Americans duty to defend the Constitution, not just our military. I would rather die free than live in bondage.




posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 08:52 AM
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Originally posted by David9176
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Cripes man.

I'd almost be afraid to sign that thing.




What is to be afraid of? What will they do round up all the people and lock them up? I won't go quietly. I refuse to live in fear of the government that is supposed to exist to serve the people not control them. We are free to say and beleive what ever we want. I will not allow them to take that away from me.
Anyway with all the threads you have been starting lately on ATS you are already on the government list of trouble makers.



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 11:07 AM
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Originally posted by sos37
Here's an idea ... maybe Ron Paul should actually run for president! You know, maybe he should actually BE on the ballot next time so, you know, people can actually VOTE for the man! That way when he has something to say it will carry more weight than standing in the background shouting with a tiny megaphone compared to the two mega super powers that normally run. He might actually have a chance in 2012 - people are going to continue to be fed up with the Republican party and they are going to be disgusted that Obama's platform of "change" for the better was nothing but a lie to get elected. If he would actually get on the ballot AND STAY THERE then I might have more respect for the guy and this country might have a chance!!!!


He was in the election but didn't get passed the primarys...............that's what i thought anyways and if that is correct then you need to check your facts again.



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 11:34 AM
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Signed!
I love my Family My Community, My Country. It is my government I fear. We need to begin recall petitions on every member of Congress, with the possible exception of Dr. Paul. At the same time, we need to begin impeachment proceedings on the President and Vice President. It is my opinion that the change in government they are proposing amount to treason. We must stop them. The Republic must not fall!



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 11:48 AM
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not sure if you followed the elections this past year....but Ron Paul DID run....though he lacked one thing...CAMPAIGN FUNDING! so he wasnt able to put his face every where like McCain and Obaminiation!... as usual the sheeple are given only TWO to choose from... and never heard about the other.....the only reason we knew about Ross Perot is b/c he could fund HIMSELF!



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by thefutureisuncertain
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not sure if you followed the elections this past year....but Ron Paul DID run....though he lacked one thing...CAMPAIGN FUNDING! so he wasnt able to put his face every where like McCain and Obaminiation!... as usual the sheeple are given only TWO to choose from... and never heard about the other.....the only reason we knew about Ross Perot is b/c he could fund HIMSELF!


He didn't run in the general election under the libertarian party as he originally intended. Instead, that party fractured into four other candidates that split the vote four ways, ensuring there would be no possible way for a libertarian victory even if a rally did happen - no one would know which one to vote for!!

www.cnn.com...

newsroom.mtv.com...

www.thespoof.com...



[edit on 20-3-2009 by sos37]



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 01:16 PM
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Signed it, and I have this to say to the government.

COME AND GET ME!

"I will not live in shame, I will not live in fear, I will uphold and honor the sacrifice of my ancestry, of my family. Loyal citizens of a once free nation, who gave their lives when a man threatened to take over Europe by force.

Sons of the west, our brothers, I ask this day, that you look deep into your soul ask with a clear mind and see with pure conviction at the wickedness that has beset our people!

I see in the eyes of our people, the fear that would take the heart from me. We have been enslaved, battered, pitted against each other. How long I ask, will it take, what price will you give to the tyrants of our time for your freedom?

We must fear them no more! Even when they pit us against each other, or when they try to buy out our honor and convictions, our very soul for pennies, we must be steadfast in our goal. We must join together with our brothers in arms, hold our weapons high for them to see and claim that we shall not go quiet! We shall not be forgotten! We will live on! We will be free!

Now stand together sons of the west! Stand and take back your freedom!"


[edit on 20-3-2009 by Question]



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by sos37
Here's an idea ... maybe Ron Paul should actually run for president! You know, maybe he should actually BE on the ballot next time so, you know, people can actually VOTE for the man! That way when he has something to say it will carry more weight than standing in the background shouting with a tiny megaphone compared to the two mega super powers that normally run. He might actually have a chance in 2012 - people are going to continue to be fed up with the Republican party and they are going to be disgusted that Obama's platform of "change" for the better was nothing but a lie to get elected. If he would actually get on the ballot AND STAY THERE then I might have more respect for the guy and this country might have a chance!!!!


He ran as a republican. The republican party nominated John McCain. How is that Ron Paul's fault. I'm sure he would have much rather won the nomination rather than lose it. So, you lack respect for Paul because of a decision the the politicians you want to replace made? Makes no sense...



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by David9176
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Cripes man.

I'd almost be afraid to sign that thing.




Think of it this way; would you be afraid to sign it if over 50% of Americans already signed it? No. So why be afraid when only >1% have signed it?

Signed, S, & F.



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 02:11 PM
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Originally posted by mybigunit
I do blame the people for allowing themselves to get to this point.


I'm of the opinion that that is not entirely fair. Most people were born into indoctrination. And it becomes an issue of not having enough information to wisely choose.

"Control the input and you control the output." And you know as well as I that controlling the input is what They are all about. That some of us rose above Their plans to see the prison they are building is, quite frankly, amazing to me to see at all.

So yes. There are some of us who have been blessed with eyes to see. But I don't fault those whose eyes have been shown only that false construct they offer the masses, and who have been trained to have an emotional attachment to that construct, making things outside difficult to bring their eyes, and more importantly, their hearts to.

In one sense, I suppose it could be considered "weakness," but do we call it weakness when a "backwards" native is not building cars (that they have no concept of)? For this is, for the most part, what we're dealing with.

No... I carry pity, I guess, but only blame Them. They ensured that truth was hidden, painting a June Cleaver view for our hearts to attach to. They told us that our Government really did care. We can trust the FDA and the other "service" groups they established. Doctors are perfect and altruistic... All that creppola.

Can you blame people who have no conscept outside of that for not taking steps on the outside?

They don't announce Ron Paul's rallies, over and over, in the MSM. I don't think it's an issue of people necessarily DECIDING not to go, but that they don't hear about it. It is the manipulative Media that ensures they know about Obama's affairs. Anyone outside Their system will be stiffled.

Now, I understand the frustration, but holding disdain for the victims seems a poor choice to me. Rather I love them and pity them and do what I can to change things for them (thus my book...), but I never lose sight that it is Them I must direct my disdain towards, not them.



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 03:45 PM
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Definitely signed. Don't we usually give China and Cuba a bunch of crap for this very sort of thing? I'm so tired of this. My Cuban parents and I came here under political asylum to escape crap like this, not to swallow a different brand of it.

[edit on 20-3-2009 by projectvxn]



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 04:04 PM
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I thought that we were unable to confirm the authenticity of the pdf in question, that claimed Ron Paul supporters were terrorists?

Feels like everything lately is a surreal joke of sorts... Just can't stop laughing.



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 04:24 PM
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Originally posted by Unit541

Originally posted by sos37
Here's an idea ... maybe Ron Paul should actually run for president! You know, maybe he should actually BE on the ballot next time so, you know, people can actually VOTE for the man! That way when he has something to say it will carry more weight than standing in the background shouting with a tiny megaphone compared to the two mega super powers that normally run. He might actually have a chance in 2012 - people are going to continue to be fed up with the Republican party and they are going to be disgusted that Obama's platform of "change" for the better was nothing but a lie to get elected. If he would actually get on the ballot AND STAY THERE then I might have more respect for the guy and this country might have a chance!!!!


He ran as a republican. The republican party nominated John McCain. How is that Ron Paul's fault. I'm sure he would have much rather won the nomination rather than lose it. So, you lack respect for Paul because of a decision the the politicians you want to replace made? Makes no sense...


I lack respect for Ron Paul for not running under the Libertarian party on the ballot where he should have been running. You and I both know that to run against the popular Republican nominee meant he wasn't going to get nominated. Running as a libertarian he could have been on the ballot come election time right up next to Obama and McCain.

Now what about that doesn't make sense to you, sir?



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 07:24 PM
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them affraid of us.... I dont think so, me thinks they are looking to pick a fight and they refuse to accept no ... sir... at least that is how I read it ... and you know they have that fancy thing on the space station ... and GPS so... well, they can be killing all us and we would not know until the doctor says you have terminal cancer or something... 2 + 2 doesnt always equal 4.. in this case it equaled 911.



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 07:52 PM
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I remember when this MIAC report was posted here, and you had the usual suspects who hate Alex Jones come out and say it was an intentional hoax. Where are those people now, now that those accused in this report are considering legal action? Not so much a hoax now, is it? If you called the number on the report, you could confirm that it was real. Although the report doesn't say, "Ron Paul supporters are terrorists," it does clearly profile his supporters not as patriots but as security threats. They're not just talking about "militia groups." They said most militia members are RP supporters, so that implies that if you are a RP supporter, you are profiled as a member of a militia group and are thus a security threat.
I really hate it when people know the truth, and they intentionally lie to protect their skewed interests. It really outrages me, beyond all else. This sort of behavior is what got us into this mess that we're now contending with. Anyway, I hope this sends a message to all the police stations that Ron Paul et al. are men to be respected.



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 11:51 PM
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This is McCarthyism and legal action against it should be taken before it gets out of hand. I was a victim of the post columbine witch hunt in high school. I was detained and question (illegally, as i was under 18 at the time) by a police officer at school. I wasn't expelled but it was made clear that my presence wasn't welcome there. Apparently wearing black clothes meant i was a potential murderer. After the detainment, I dropped out, got a GED and went on to college but the incident still haunts me. Witch Hunts only lead to ruined lives of innocent people by overzealous authority figures and a Witch Hunt is what the MIAC is trying to start.

TheAssociate



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 11:57 PM
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I lack respect for Ron Paul for not running under the Libertarian party on the ballot where he should have been running.


That wouldn't have worked. There is no "Libertarian" media outlet.

He would have been beat into the ground from all sides..CNN, MSNBC, FOX would all be crucifying him.

Sean Hannity hates RP. Why? Probably because RP is against war.



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 12:50 AM
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Starred, flagged, and signed!

Being from Missouri and living in a small town I am rather well known for voicing my opinions about the state of our country and the conspiracies involved. We have a local forum where I post almost daily trying to show those in my town what is going on. I'm not in the least bit afraid of this document true or not and the cops in this town know who I am and I don't fear them either.

I posted the link for the petition on our local forum. I'm sure I'll be called a kook again.



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 02:14 AM
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I too am from a small southeastern Missouri town. I am appalled to be profiled in this manner. I am NOT a part of any militia. Have never been in trouble with the law, I do not own a firearm. I have a great family,good friends,I pay my fair share of taxes and I have alot of respect for all men and women. I am just soooooooo tired of getting walked on by our own elected officials.

Dr. Paul didn't get a fair shake during this last election cycle. The democrats and republicans are SCARED of him. That is the reason that the MSM wouldn't give him any time. What do you think would have happened if Dr. Paul would have been allowed in the debates? He would have tore the two parties limb to limb!!! That is what made him so dangerous. The fact that he stands for us. He stands on the belief that the constitution was uphold society in general. What if he would have gotten his fair share of media coverage? I'll bet that when he talked about dismantaling the irs and the federal reserve that it would have gotten alot of attention. But no......the media wouldn't give him any time.

It is ashame. Dr. Paul should be a household name.

You betcha I signed it. You gotta stand for something. Our voices can not be ignored forever.



posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 10:08 AM
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Signed, starred and flagged as well. People we have to take a stand. I think we realize this nation of our is in the tubes and tptb have their hands on the flusher. When our forefathers signed the Declaration, they were worried too, i bet. And look what happened. If I end up in a FEMA center, or where ever the black van takes me, so be it. They are taking away all of our freedoms one by one. Bankrupting the country. federalizing everything they can get their grimy mitts on. Someone has to take a stand We have entered a new age of discrimination. If you love your country and all it USED to stand for, you are AGAINST IT? How did we get here?
It makes no sense. flying the flag upside down is a sign of distress.....oops, not if you do it today(in our current time of distress). Now its a symbol of militias and domestic terrorists. The only domestic terrorists I see are in DC. As a truck driver out here criss-crossing the land, I hear more and more people saying "this is a mess", or "someone has got to do something". Well, I am getting on the road to doing something. It may start small like the petition. But eventually, if I have to take this truck to the White House or to UN Hdqtrs in NYC, dammit I'm for it. Like the earlier post . a great man said 'the only thing to fear is fear itself'. Ha, I fear my government but love my country. I have the 'fight or flight reflex' everytime I read these threads. I'm tired of flying away from the problem. Its time to take a stand.



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