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US has been in State of Emergency since 1933

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posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:36 PM
This link explains how we got to the point where the Federal Government is acting as if the Constitution no longer matters. It's a real eye-opener! I'll quote some parts below.

"Senate Report 93-549, written in 1973, says "Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency...Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the president may: seize property;...seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication;...restrict travel; and, in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens."

The president can act through Executive Order, Presidential Proclamation, or through his many agencies, which include most of the alphabet agencies."

After reading the above section, the first question that occurred to me is this. If military personnel take an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, which the government for all practical purposes has swept aside, then how legitimate are ANY orders that come down from the top?

posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 02:51 PM
Well, there really is no way around it because we also in that same oath swear to follow the orders of the President.

I, state your name, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same, and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God

But what happens when our officials act against the constitution, does that make them domestic enemies? And by whose authority, the American people? No, the President. Ron Paul also brought up that we were still in a state of emergency, which means that the order I believe NPD 51 was not needed because the President already had those powers. Also, have you noticed that Obama has not yet rescinded the order that gave President Bush all the authority? Or that congress still has yet to make a Declaration of War?

posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 03:05 PM
You raise a good point.

posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 06:58 PM
Proclamations Declared:

March 9, 1933 President Roosevelt
December 6, 1950 President Truman
March 23, 1970 / August 15, 1971 President Nixon

Its like the add game, how many declarations can we make and forget to take down... This is was brought up in senate in november 9, 1973, No real results.

Roosevelts never ended.

The Attorney General of the United States noted in a report
dated May 21, 1973:

"As a consequence, a `national emergency' is now a practical
necessity in order to carry out what has become the regular and
normal method of governmental actions. What were intended by
Congress as delegations of power to be used in only the most
extreme situations, and for the most limited durations, have become
everyday powers, and a state of `emergency' has become a permanent

[edit on 19-3-2009 by Bldrvgr]

posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 08:59 AM
The people who took a stand against this nwo type of gov't are either dead or in jail. Case in point, dead are:Ron Brown, Paul Wellstone, Bill Cooper, John Lennon, and James K Hatfield, and right now James Trafficant sits in jail for exposing the Clinton administration and was going to out the incoming gw bush admninistration Trafficant also gave a speech on the floor back in 1993 explaining that the usa was, and has been bankrupt for several decades, and that he was going to expose all involved for their part of tearing down this nation.

posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 09:04 AM
Here is why Traficant was sent to prison
Speaker: Representative James Traficant, Jr. (Ohio) addressing the House:

"Mr. Speaker, we are here now in Chapter 11. Members of Congress are official trustees presiding over the greatest reorganization in world history, the U.S. Government.

We are setting forth hopefully, a blueprint for our future.

There are some who say it is a coroner's report that will lead to our demise.

It is an established fact that the United States Federal Government has been dissolved by the Emergency Banking Act, March 9, 1933, 48 Stat. 1, Public Law 89-719; declared by President Roosevelt, being bankrupt and insolvent. HJR 192, 73rd Congress in session June 5, 1933 - Joint Resolution to Suspend the Gold Standard and Abrogate the Gold Clause dissolved the Sovereign Authority of the United States and the official capacities of all United States Governmental Offices, Officers, and Departments, and is further evidence that the United States Federal Government exists today in name only.

The receivers of the United States Bankruptcy are the International Bankers, via the United Nations, the World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund.

All United States Offices, Officials, and Departments are now operating within a de facto status in name only under the Emergency War Powers.

With the Constitutional Republican form of Government now dissolved, the receivers of the Bankruptcy hav adopted a new form of government FOR the United States. This new form of government is known as a Democracy, being an established Socialist/Communist order under a new governor for America.

This act was instituted and established by transferring and/or placing the Office of the Secretary of Treasury to that of the Governor of the International Monetary Fund. Public Law 94-564, page 8, Section H.R.13955 reads in part:

'The U.S. Secretary of Treasury receives no compensation for representing the United States.'

Gold and silver were such a powerful money during the founding of the united states of America that the founding fathers declared that only gold or silver coins can be 'money' in America. Since gold and silver coinage were heavy and inconvenient for a lot of transactions, they were stored in banks and a claim check was issued as a money substitute.

People traded their coupons as money, or 'currency.' Currency is not money, but a money substitute. Redeemable currency must promise to pay a dollar equivalent in gold or silver money. Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) make no such promises and are not 'money.'

A Federal Reserve Note is a debt obligation of the federal United States Government, not 'money.' The federal United States Government and the U.S. Congress were not and have never been authorized by the Constitution for the united states of America to issue currency of any kind, but only lawful money - gold and silver coin.

It is essential that we comprehend the distinction between real money and paper money substitute. One cannot get rich by accumulating money substitutes, one can only get deeper into debt. We the People no longer have any 'money.'

Most Americans have not been paid any 'money' for a very long time, perhaps not in their entire life. Now do you comprehend why you feel broke? Now do you understand why you are 'bankrupt,' along with the rest of the country?

Federal Reserve Notes (FRNs) are unsigned checks written on a closed account. FRNs are an inflatable paper system designed to create debt through inflation (devaluation of currency). Whenever there is an increase of the supply of a money substitute in the economy without a corresponding increase in the gold and silver backing, inflation occurs.

Inflation is an invisible form of taxation that irresponsible governments inflict on their citizens. The Federal Reserve Bank who controls the supply and movement of FRNs has everybody fooled. They have access to an unlimited supply of FRNs, paying only for the printing costs of what they need. FRNs are nothing more than promissory notes for U.S. Treasury securities (T-bills) - a promise to pay the debt to the Federal Reserve Bank.

There is a fundamental difference between 'paying' and 'discharging' a debt. To pay a debt, you must pay with value or substance (i.e. gold, silver, barter or a commodity). With FRNs, you can only discharge a debt. You cannot pay a debt with a debt currency system. You cannot service a debt with a currency that has no backing in value or substance. No contract in Common Law is valid unless it involves an exchange of 'good and valuable consideration."

Unpayable debt transfers power and control to the sovereign power structure that has no interest in money, law, equity, or justice because they have so much wealth already.

Their lust is for power and control.

Since the inception of central banking, they have controlled the fates of nations.

The Federal Reserve System is based on the Canon law and the principles of sovereignty protected in the Constitution and Bill of Rights. In fact, the international bankers used a 'Canon Law Trust' as their model, adding stock and naming it a 'Joint Stock Trust' in 1873. The Federal Reserve Act was legislated post facto (to 1870), although post-facto laws are strictly forbidden by the Constitution (Article I, Section 9, Paragraph 3).

The Federal Reserve System is a sovereign power structure separate and distinct from the federal United States government. The Federal Reserve is a maritime lender, and/or maritime insurance underwriter to the federal United States operating exclusively under Admiralty/Maritime law. The lender or underwriter bears the risks, and the Maritime law compelling specific performance in paying the interest, or premiums, are the same.

Assets of the debtor can also be hypothecated (to pledge something as a security without taking possession of it) as security by the lender or underwriter. The Federal Reserve Act stipulated that the interest on the debt was to be paid in Gold. There was no stipulation in the Federal Reserve Act for ever paying the principal.

Prior to 1913, most Americans owned clear, allodial title to property, free and clear of any liens or mortgages until the Federal Reserve Act (1913) 'hypothecated' all property within the federal United States to the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve, in which the Trustees (stockholders) held legal title. The U.S. citizen (tenant, franchisee) was registered as a 'beneficiary' of the trust via his/her birth certificate.

In 1933, the federal United States hypothecated all of the present and future properties, assets, and labor of their 'subjects,' the 14th Amendment U.S. citizen, to the Federal Reserve System.

In return, the Federal Reserve System agreed to extend the federal United States corporation all the credit 'money substitute' it needed. Like any other debtor, the federal United States government had to assign collateral and security to their creditors as a condition of the loan.

Since the federal United States didn't have any assets, they assigned the private property of their 'economic slaves,' the U.S. citizens as collateral against the unpayable federal debt. They also pledged the unincorporated federal territories, national park forests, birth certificates, and non-profit organizations as collateral against the federal debt.

All has already been transferred as payment to the international bankers.

Unwittingly, America has returned to its pre-American Revolution, feudal roots whereby all land is held by a Sovereign, and the common people had no rights to hold allodial title to property.

Once again, We the People are the tenants and sharecroppers renting our own property from a Sovereign in the guise of the Federal Reserve Bank.

We the People have exchanged one master for another.

This has been going on for over eighty years without the 'informed knowledge' of the American people, without a voice protesting loud enough.

Now it is easy to grasp why America is fundamentally bankrupt.

Why don't more people own their properties outright?

Why are 90% of Americans mortgaged to the hilt and have little or no assets after all debts and liabilities have been paid?

Why does it feel like you are working harder and harder and getting less and less?

We are reaping what has been sown, and the results of our harvest is a painful bankruptcy, and a foreclosure on American property, precious liberties, and a way of life.

Few of our elected representatives in Washington, D.C. have dared to tell the truth. The federal United States is bankrupt. Our children will inherit this unpayable debt, and the tyranny to enforce paying it.

America has become completely bankrupt in world leadership, financial credit, and its reputation for courage, vision, and human rights.

This is an undeclared economic war, bankruptcy, and economic slavery of the most corrupt order.

Wake up, America! Take back your country."

posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 09:23 AM
Yeah, I've been preaching this for years and no one seems to listen. I get looks like I'm some kind of kook. When I challenge people to look it up and they do, they usually come back with some opinion that this is no big deal. Just goes to show you how far the moronification of the nation has gone - when people can't even grasp the simple concept that the Constitution was suspended on that day and has never been reinstated and that our country is now at the mercy of the cadre of international bankers. Couple this with the fact that we now operate under Maritime Admiralty Law and that "Citizens" are really chattel that the Treasury uses as collateral for money from the Fed and one can see how far from our founding principles that we have fallen.

Yes folks, this country is in BIG trouble and some people have no idea how big! Finally, we have reached the end of the road - the monetization of our debt. We're doomed!

posted on Mar, 21 2009 @ 09:44 AM
reply to post by kozmo
Exactly kozmo! I, like you have been preaching to deaf ears for over 20 years! Now that the chicken has come home to roost(our economic woes right now), the general public has no clue as to why and when it will get fixed. Sad thing is that it's not going to get fixed because there is no "hard" commodity to back the dollar anymore and our credit to the world has run out. The world has seen america for what it is now, and that is a big hole in the ground! No gold to stand on, no more jobs to help pay back our global debts, and right now many states are selling their toll roads to foreign entities just to have operating capitol. Ohio, New Jersey, West Virginia, and parts of the Virginia BlueRidge Parkway now belongs to foreigners! To make things worse, people think that obama is going to save us?? LOL, now that makes me chortle to no end!

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