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Who will lead your revolution?

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posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 12:59 AM
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With so much discussion of a revolution lately, I have yet to see this topic discussed.

Who will lead it? There has to be a leader, a person that will bring the people who want this to happen together under a common goal

Revolutions do not happen by themselves, they need someone to take the first step, to be the figurehead.

So if your had your choice what would you want in a leader or who would you pick?

Please no votes for Alex Jones or Glen Beck, that is just silly.
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posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:12 AM
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Hm, do we really need a leader? I see a revolution as brothers, everyone for one common cause. I wouldn't say we need a leader, everyone would have equal say in what goes on. No, we don't need leaders, we need tacticians and specialists.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:14 AM
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Quite agreed... we need a Mental Revolution .. a change in our behaviors, our actions, our thoughts, the way we perceive, and the way we decide who deserves a seat of power.

To quote an excellent song: "There is a war going on for your mind!"



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:21 AM
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Really good question. REALLY good.

..and honestly I don't have an answer.

Though I'd bet that the person needed is out there, and really doesn't want to be the leader.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:22 AM
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Well, in a ways some of the old guys helped initiate it. Ron Paul helped wake up a lot of the younger generation for this. Then a chain reaction started from there so to speak.
Then of course the really old guys, ancient by some standards. I am talking about the Founding Fathers of the American Republic. Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, George Washington, Thomas Paine, etc.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:33 AM
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Ahhh.....why not?


I'LL BE YOUR LEADER!



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:50 AM
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I respectfully disagree, the revolution NEEDS a leader, if not one person at least a group. Someone or something to focus the population on a singular goal.

Without focus the idea goes nowhere.

With internet and sites like youtube it has to be much easier to reach the population. Easier then ever in the history of mankind. But no one has really stepped up.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 02:38 AM
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Originally posted by drock905
reply to post by LeTan
 


I respectfully disagree, the revolution NEEDS a leader, if not one person at least a group. Someone or something to focus the population on a singular goal.

Without focus the idea goes nowhere.

With internet and sites like youtube it has to be much easier to reach the population. Easier then ever in the history of mankind. But no one has really stepped up.



And the revolution splinters...

I wanna know what will protect you from the ELITES and corporations when the GOV is gone?



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 03:02 AM
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Originally posted by mental modulator

Originally posted by drock905
reply to post by LeTan
 


I respectfully disagree, the revolution NEEDS a leader, if not one person at least a group. Someone or something to focus the population on a singular goal.

Without focus the idea goes nowhere.

With internet and sites like youtube it has to be much easier to reach the population. Easier then ever in the history of mankind. But no one has really stepped up.



And the revolution splinters...

I wanna know what will protect you from the ELITES and corporations when the GOV is gone?





I'm not convinced they are protecting us now.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 04:33 AM
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I'm sorry but when the msm is being dominated with talk of revolution, even if its being kept under a veil. It is still there. We have never been more ready. This idea lacks a figure. A person who will step up and says what has to be done.

It will not be one of us., as much as we think we can be be the leaders we cannot.

If no one is willing to step up to make the sacrafice. It will fail.

We are out of time, we might have already lost. We may be wasting the opprotunity. In my opinion we are.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 04:51 AM
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I would greatfully step up to the challenge but the question is will everyone stand in defense of their beliefs? Will you put your futures on the line to stand up against anything that they throw at you? Will you put your life on the line? As exciting as it sounds most will just cower in fear and fail to back up their internet voice. I vocally and publicly put myself on the line on a daily basis. What I see though is that most aren't strong enough to live in poverty for the years it will take to bring the change that is needed. If people will follow I will lead.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 11:41 AM
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i think people need to realize that we need to change the way we live... need to be tolerant of others.... except for those that wish to impose their ideas on another...i realize that in itself might be a contradiction. democracy, socialism, communism, facism, and all other attempteed forms of goverment have not work because there has always been a group over looks in all... they all had one major drawback... they worked with money.... which i believe to be the major reason we have fought wars and killed billions for over time.

what do you call 10,000 bankers up to their necks in sand..... a good start!



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:02 PM
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What makes you think that they will survive?

A great many of the banker elite type folk did not survive the Financial Panic of 1973. That was a time of pitchforks, torches, and lots of rope. Thats my kind of tea-party.

I do not want a revolution to entirely shift to another form of government, I want a reboot of the system. I want to go back to the constitution and follow the guidelines set forth for a Constitutional Republic.

Consider it a big cesspool flush of filth. Flush out all the politicians in office completely and try them all for treason. Flush all the legal decisions from the supreme court past the 1900's and try those still alive for treason if they went against the constitution in their decisions just once. Abolish the Fed Reserve, and try them all for treason. Abolish the DEA, and try them for treason for infringing on personal liberties. Abolish the IRS, and try them for treason for taxing wages clearly against constitutional standards.

Go through each and every individual law on the books, from local to federal. If one of them is against the constitution or the states constitution in anyway shape or form, those that authored said legislation or voted yes should be tried for treason and treated as traitors.

And yes, that treason charge should be for capital punishment without chance of appeal immediately after a guilty verdict. Not years and years of appeals or waiting, but a tree with a rope or firing squad outside the respective courthouse ready to go. Our founding fathers had no problem with capital punishment, neither do I.

Do you see the gist of what I want? Accountability for their traitorous actions. If the people rose up and demanded justice with this type of attitude, the government would be deathly afraid of the people and personal liberties would be re-established for at least one generation. It would again be a government for the people, and by the people.

The only amendments after the initial documents that should remain are voting rights for all regardless of gender or race, and that slavery is not allowed and goes contrary to the preamble.

Where powers and authorities not vested in the constitution, is left up to the states or the people.

A small Federal Government, with States sovereignty and the people governing themselves. Someone comes along that proclaims this message, I will support him.

Unfortunately, the people aren't prepared to do that. They are not convinced that they have lost rights. Clearly anyone that actually reads the constitution can point out multiple conflicts of where we should be, vs where we are.

Who will lead it? If things get bad enough, it'll be someone with no name, no history, and not connected to the system. It will be you, the people that do it. A nameless adversary, awoken from their long slumber.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:33 PM
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Originally posted by LeaderOfProgress
I would greatfully step up to the challenge but the question is will everyone stand in defense of their beliefs? Will you put your futures on the line to stand up against anything that they throw at you? Will you put your life on the line? As exciting as it sounds most will just cower in fear and fail to back up their internet voice. I vocally and publicly put myself on the line on a daily basis. What I see though is that most aren't strong enough to live in poverty for the years it will take to bring the change that is needed. If people will follow I will lead.


But do you know what to do?
Is your plan simple?
Is it dangerous?

Do you have the key to put together the 100's of groups formed and forming all thru the country?

Do you know what the main point would be? Can you pick just one to concentrate on?

Do you know how to scare the pants off of the folks in DC and get them to step down without bloodshed?

Can you do it in the open, to where the people see it whether or not the MSM cover it or not?

Do you have a core group, that has their head together to cordinate anything?

How do you keep the Military at bay, when doing anything?

These questions, my fellow American, are the ones that I try to find the answers to everyday. Everyday that I sit and watch the total distruction of our Constitution, our rights, and our Freedom as it should be.

I submit to you my dear patriot, that I have answered most of them, but yet there are a few major hurdles that seem so large, that the dynamics are mind boggling.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:33 PM
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When I was questioned by the OSBI a "reset of the current system" is exactly what I told them is needed. I want the Constitution in it's current form to be implemented and a reset of States Rights. Not to mention I want everyone in a political position to be removed from their position and put on trial for crimes against the people of the United States. I want them held accountable for their greed and lies. What I want as far as a trial is a national jury pool made of the people, not some senate panel. I want enforcment of the rules put into place to prevent greed from entering our government's highest levels. I want to minimize the strength of the federal government over the people. The sole reason for a federal government was to protect states rights and ensure national security. It was not originally constructed to become a profitable career or buisness opportunity, but that is what it has become. Government is not supposed to be manipulated for profit but it is. ALL OF THE CORRUPTION MUST STOP. Even small city governments are corrupt. It all needs the reset button pushed and the hammer of justice slammed down upon those who are entrenched in the corruption that is killing our nation.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 02:05 PM
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Originally posted by j2000

Originally posted by LeaderOfProgress
I would greatfully step up to the challenge but the question is will everyone stand in defense of their beliefs? Will you put your futures on the line to stand up against anything that they throw at you? Will you put your life on the line? As exciting as it sounds most will just cower in fear and fail to back up their internet voice. I vocally and publicly put myself on the line on a daily basis. What I see though is that most aren't strong enough to live in poverty for the years it will take to bring the change that is needed. If people will follow I will lead.



But do you know what to do?


Yes but it would take people being brave and selfless once again. It would take having a desire to improve the country for our youth more than for ourselves.


Is your plan simple?


Yes and no. There is always complications when trying to empower and mobilize such a melting pot of citizens to dislodge corruption and greed.


Is it dangerous?


Yes. There is no doubt that anyone standing against the corruption will be endangered. It does not have to be that way. The decision is up to the powers that be. Peacefull change is what I want, but I doubt they will give it to us.


Do you have the key to put together the 100's of groups formed and forming all thru the country?


Yes but will they live in poverty to secure the future of their children?


Do you know what the main point would be? Can you pick just one to concentrate on?


Yes. Plain and simple take the "Buisness" out of government along with the corruption.


Do you know how to scare the pants off of the folks in DC and get them to step down without bloodshed?


Yes. Once again it depends on weather or not people are willing to sacrifice a way of life in order to guarantee a future.


Can you do it in the open, to where the people see it whether or not the MSM cover it or not?


Yes. I very publicly make my stand trying to rally people's thoughts and open their minds to what is going on. When enough people know what is going on, then and only then will it be time to make a stand.


Do you have a core group, that has their head together to cordinate anything?


Yes. This group grows every day spreading the truth like a virus. I wish it was a little more contagous for the sake of our posterity.


How do you keep the Military at bay, when doing anything?


The military is just as much in this as we are. They want the same change. Most will aid in change not stand against it. My goal is no violence but the choice is not mine. I will not instigate violence, but will not tolerate it in the same note.


These questions, my fellow American, are the ones that I try to find the answers to everyday. Everyday that I sit and watch the total distruction of our Constitution, our rights, and our Freedom as it should be.


Very good questions. You are right to ask and deserve an answer from anyone who wants to change the way things are.



I submit to you my dear patriot, that I have answered most of them, but yet there are a few major hurdles that seem so large, that the dynamics are mind boggling.


Very true. My thoughts are that the biggest hurdle is getting people to care about themselves and their children enough to wake up and as for change themselves. My number one goal would be MSM coverage. I have a wonderfull plan in the works. It will work. It is non destructive, not illegal, and non violent.

I know my answers seem simple for the moment, but trust me I know there is so many variables that make simple answers impossible. Keep the thread going and continue to ask questions. I will gladly answer any posts.

edited for spelling.

[edit on 19-3-2009 by LeaderOfProgress]



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 02:23 PM
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Did you ever get a call back from your local OSBI agent? Did you every find out why they questioned you?
Perhaps you would like another visit? Oklahoma seems like a hot bed of activity lately.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 02:24 PM
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Is your plan simple?Is your plan simple?

Yes and no. There is always complications when trying to empower and mobilize such a melting pot of citizens to dislodge corruption and greed.


I can give you a simple answer to this one. "Practice for a Parade".
No more, no less.


by the way, check your u2u



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by jibeho
reply to post by LeaderOfProgress
 


Did you ever get a call back from your local OSBI agent? Did you every find out why they questioned you?
Perhaps you would like another visit? Oklahoma seems like a hot bed of activity lately.


Nope but this time I will be ready for collecting of proof of their visit. I honestly welcome it.

[edit on 19-3-2009 by LeaderOfProgress]



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 03:05 PM
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Without question, the leader of my revolution is Walker: Texas Ranger himself!!! Chuck Norris is the only man to lead this, or perhaps a reanimated Charleton Heston. I am certain that Ted Nugent would be somewhere in the revolution too.
Too much, just too funny in a dark sense...



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