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Obama's $500,000 book bonanza

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posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by pmbhuntress
Yeah my daughters teacher read a book to the class about Obama. I was royally ticked off. In fact, my kids had to go to school on Presidents day. which would normally be a holiday yet they got MLK day off. Which to me was very strange.

But I also have noticed that teachers act like he is suppose to be worshiped. My oldest daughter 9 years old today was suppose to write a letter to Obama the teacher made her rewrite the letter because she didnt like what she had written. She was suppose to ask him just one question. Her question was why wasnt he smiling just before he got sworn in.

After the teachers were done her letter asked if he read books to his girls at bed time. Why not let our kids ask what they want? They checked and rechecked all of the childrens letters to make sure no one said anything they shouldnt, or that may be racist or found to be offensive, or any other thing. I hate to say it but my kids dont need to read books about this man if they cant even write him a real letter with there own words in it. To me they should have a book burning party with his books.


That is just insane! To include children in such a process sure infringes on a lot of the principals of democracy in my humble oppinion. It's a beginning of striking in the wedge to seperate children from their parents in regards to politics.

Who in fact are they attempting to fool? Does anyone teacher or principal or administrator involved in such an effort really beleive Obama or anyone on his staff is going to read each and every letter? That somehow they are brightening up the President's day when times get a little tough or he has a tummy ache he reaches for one to steel his resolve to the task a.?

It's blatant brainwashing that steps outside of the schools approved cirriculum. I would be in the school's office the next day with as many other parents I could gather demanding answers or a police escort out of the door.

If it resulted in a police escort out of the door I would pull my child from public school.

It's bad enough the nonsense they teach older children in social studies.

To indoctrinate children into the forced allegiance to a political figure by forcing them to write apporiate correspondences as deemed by a minder is simply disgusting.

It's an attempt to subvert and shape their values at the most formative age towards a President and a Party and a set of values that is not what the democratic process is about.

These are blatant moves towards a dictatorship centered around a cult of personality.

The office of the President warrants being taught. Blind and instilled love and respect for the man who sits in it is contrary to what the democratic system of government is based upon.

These children will never reach voting age to vote for Obama in our current constitutional system of term limits.

All this signals regardless of how you pander it or sell it is a direct attack on the constitutional system by a concerted effort to improperly shape the values of the young at the most formative stage of their learning to erode the traditional values that ensure the continuation of the constitutional system.

Which is an incredibly frightening thing considering on how many young people of voting age were recruited to vote and canvas for Obama with almost no real understanding about his policies or how the world and country runs or what the mechanisms are that allowed the world and country to reach this state.

To tell you how misinformed and manipulated some of these young adults were two of them knocked on my door during the election and after a half hour talk left all their brochures and clipboards with me.

If I could disuade them in such short order, imagine how easy it was to persuade them in short order?




posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 12:54 PM
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OH good for you, can it be posted on here?


Anyone who wants to read the Obama legislation attempts as a U.S. Senator can visit Libraryofcongress.gov and select the Thomas Beta Link to search all current and past legislation by any elected member of the Congress or Senate as well as specific bills by Title or Number by specific Congresses. For instant the 106th Congress pulls down a drop down menu of every representative serving in it, selecting that representative you are interested in will pull up another menu of all the bills they wrote. Clicking on the bill will provide you the entire text of it.

In Obama's case there were 124 of them and many of them worked at cross purposes. He had one for instance that sought to limit golden parachutes for executives and CEO's by allowing the common holders of stock in that company to vote for and elect one person to serve as a proxy representative to Corporate Board Meetings where discussion or vote on a golden parachute severance package is being discussed.

The Bill then states that the Proxy has a right to voice a recomendation against the golden parachute compensation package but that vote will not be binding upon the Board that can still vote as it pleases in a binding way to award severance packages as they see fit.

What does a bill like that accomplish? Nothing as it changes nothing in who and how really gets to make the decision.

Yet Obama would sit on the campaign podium and say "I wrote legistlation to limit golden parachute compensation packages for corporate executives"

The reality is no he didn't write legislation to try to eliminate them or propose a way to eliminate them. He wrote a bill to create the illusion that he could then claim he was trying to limit them, when in fact there were no binding limiting factors in the bill at all.

All lip service all smoke and mirrors all the while knowing 99.9% of the people drinking it up weren't going to take the time to read the bill and see and understand just how grossly he was misrepresenting himself and his position just to play to what he knew people wanted to hear.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:09 PM
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The use of a ghost writer is a near certainty- Obama's not screwing up because he's writing children's books. Obama is screwing up because he gave away his presidency.

During the campaign, Obama was supremely organized and Clinton was living a nightmare thanks to infighting and personally-motivated sabotage within her "team of rivals".

Now Obama presides over a "team of rivals" crawling with veterans of the Clinton administration and experiencing massive problems in his chain of command and communication.

After 8 years, we finally have a president who sits around doing nothing for reasons other than childrens books.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:41 PM
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The reality is no he didn't write legislation to try to eliminate them or propose a way to eliminate them. He wrote a bill to create the illusion that he could then claim he was trying to limit them, when in fact there were no binding limiting factors in the bill at all.

All lip service all smoke and mirrors all the while knowing 99.9% of the people drinking it up weren't going to take the time to read the bill and see and understand just how grossly he was misrepresenting himself and his position just to play to what he knew people wanted to hear.


Holy cow, thank you for the informative post along with the explanation, I needed that,

So the question is why?

and is this common?



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:45 PM
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Now Obama presides over a "team of rivals" crawling with veterans of the Clinton administration and experiencing massive problems in his chain of command and communication.


Interesting, I never thought of that,

Being that Obama is so unqualified, raises many questions in my mind as to what is actually going on.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 02:07 PM
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Obama started writing books long before he became POTUS. Why should he stop just because he is POTUS?

If it is his hobby it is his hobby.

Bush ran, Clinton played the sax. Obama writes.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 02:30 PM
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(since this ended up being long and a bit rambly, i'll give it to you in a nutshell at the very beginning: Maybe Obama's not really running the administration, and his reward for playing ball is that he can spend his time cashing in on the office)

Well, not to get off track (you'll love how I bring this full circle to the topic actually), but the irony of it is that Obama is performing more poorly than his experience suggests.

(and please bear in mind that I am making a point about both the poor run of the administration and "book bonanza" among other recent financial disclosures, so when this appears to be a defense of Obama just keep reading)

Obama has more elected experience than anyone since Ford (or Bush 41 if you count appointed experience), had more Washington DC experience than most presidents of the last century (who often come in as governors with no DC experience), and had an above average record both in terms of time and accomplishment in his executive positions outside of government.

All of this seems to be confirmed by his superior organizational management during the campaign, which, when contrasted with the chaotic state of the Clinton Campaign Post-Giga Tuesday, seemed to me to only highlight the fact that it was Clinton who had very little true experience.

But now, in a stunning reversal, Obama's white house is performing much more like the Clinton campaign- showing signs of her trademark brand of inexperience. Obama's brand of inexperience- which is a lack of experience in governmental executive office- manifests as an idealistic naiveté and a poor grasp on the relationship between the executive and the leadership in the legislative branch. This is why he says things that make Republicans think he's a utopian socialist and why he hasn't formed a united front with Pelosi and company on the Hill.
It does not explain the sudden breakdown in communication and the burdening of his organization with individualists who can't work together unless domineered over by a central authority figure. That is Classic Clinton.

So, it actually is possible, despite my earlier statement, that Obama does have time for writing children's literature. He may not be running his administration, and may not be given much choice but to either cash in on the office and keep his mouth shut, or face having his eligibility questions heard in the SCOTUS (an event which, even if he were immediately found to be eligible, could encounter a number of dramatic contingencies which could freeze his administration and effectively force him to resign)- and all of that's assuming that Hillary Clinton doesn't pay Dick Cheney to just shoot him in the face.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
Obama started writing books long before he became POTUS. Why should he stop just because he is POTUS?

If it is his hobby it is his hobby.

Bush ran, Clinton played the sax. Obama writes.


Basketball is his hobby. Don't you remember him snubbing the troops so he can get a game in?

Writing takes time, time he doesn't have.

He should wake up, excercise, shower, eat, go to work, eat lunch while working, work til dinner, eat with the family, go back to work, go to sleep and wake up and do it all over again.

In a few years if the economy and to a lesser extent the world problems are in a more manageable place, then fine write a book.

He has so much on his plate right now that even him going on Leno is frowned upon. Let alone write a book.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 02:47 PM
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Holy cow, thank you for the informative post along with the explanation, I needed that,


In regards to is it common. To a certain extent yes. Most Senators and Congress people are selected from the field of law, by party orginizations that encourage them to run for office and provide the initial backing and imputous for them to do so.

For Lawyers the most lucrative pay days are corporate mergers and acquisitions. Fellow Lawyers once elected constantly write more legislation how to make mergers and acquisitions more complex, thus more lucrative for their fellow lawyers.

In this case where often mergers and acquisitions result in golden parachute payments it doesn't behove the lawyers who get paid to negotiate them to do away with them. The 12,000,000 package to a failed or no longer needed executive is just another lengthy contract to negotiate, discuss through phone calls and meetings and write into a contract that some powerful and influential lawyer will make tens of not hundreds of thousands of dollars off of himself.

This is just but one example of how lawyers are elected to help other lawyers make the most profitable use of the law. In the end AIG excecutives are being paid for one reason and one reason only regardless of public oppinion.

It's in their contract. Contract law is the most important and binding form of law in the nation. Lawyers are the main public beneficiaries of Contract Law.

When companies like Lehman Brothers or Washington Mutual go bust, it's the lawyers who step in to do thousands of thousands of highly paid work to sort out the pieces to write into new contracts regarding who is now getting those pieces and what their responsibilities and liabilities are in the process.

The more messy all these big corporations become the more lawyers they need and the more they have to pay them to straighten out the mess.

Lawyers also help hide thefts by attempting to prove those who stole money were innocent of any impropriety. They make more money doing that too.

While we all sit around protesting and worrying about a government that gets ever bigger and more intrusive the lawyers who interpet, exploit, fight and get paid to look for the loopholes in the laws that often other lawyers make for them get rich in the process and get all the more work for it.

That is the political process on a domestic level and what really compells the behind the scenes people who finance it and give publicity to politicians is about.

Internationally you think we hate Fidel because he is communist, and we hate Iran because they are threatening the world and Israel with a nuclear missle.

We hate them because Fidel voided all his contracts with American Corporations and siezed their property and refused to enter into negotiations with lawyers to settle the matter for their corprorate clients. Same thing in the Iranian revolution.

So much of what happens in politics is just to make contract law lucrative for the lawyers and criminal law lucrative for the lawyers.

The more you can criminalize the more lawyers make money defending it.

The more you can write into contract law the more that lawyers can both sheild the big money crooks of the world and make them money in the process through complex bankruptcies, mergers and acquisitions.

In this system and this is pretty much the system, the President becomes the figure . to keep the majority of the people calm and ease their fears and uncertainties about a system that really doesn't serve them, and to do his best to convince them it does serve them by being the public face of it.

So yes it's common.

It's very uncommon to put such a rank amature into the position of figure. and develop a cult of personality around him.

That means some big money is out there to be made for the lawyers who want as many people as possible loving the figure . while big business and big law take the inside information to exploit into money in the bank even while they are exploiting the bank.

By the way agency .s like say the . of the Security and Exchange Commission almost always come too from the law field and from congress or the senate and they are more responsible in those positions to turn a blind eye to the inside information and exploitation of the system which is typically done by the people who arranged the appointment for them.

It's all a criminal enterprise that is simply not criminal because it has LAW as in well it's the LAW in front of it and behind it to legitimize the thefts and extortions.

In the meantime you teach the kids all about George Washington and Abraham Lincoln and what lucky people we are to live in our 'free' and 'open' society and how we are the shining light of the world and how this country and that country and this system and that system sucks and the people who have to live under them hate them.

The kids who grow up and are able to come to terms with the frightening reality of the larcenous way government and business are run, get sucked right into it to become the Bernie Madoffs of tomorrow and the Tony Rezkos.

The ones who can't wrap their brain around it put their hands on their heart at the football game and sing the National Anthem with tears in their eyes, and will just tell you, it isn't so. We live in the best country on earth and I get to vote. It's free, it's fair and your a paranoid nut!

Everyonce in a while they throw a wolfe to the lions to make it look real.

The rest of the time it's just lawyers, publicists and agents spinning a tail to hide it all from people who don't have the inclination or fortitude to see it.

Of course with crime the more you get away with the greedier and more blatant you become as you become more and more convinced there is no way you are ever going to get caught or stopped.

That's the phase American Government and business is in now, and when and if people ever do start reaching for the torches and start heating up the tar and plucking feathers off the chicken they usually do have it times so some strong authoritative dictatorial leader can clamp down on it and make the big criminals exit a safe and profitible one.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 05:22 PM
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Those children books are really time consuming.


POTUS or not, they have an outside life. I don't expect them to work 24 hours anymore then I would expect you or me to work 24 hours.

Our governor plays in a band. And Irish rock band. And still plays on teh weekends, No one bats an eye.

Bush played golf, hunted, hiked, and watched baseball.

Regan was often seen playin golf with his vp as well.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 05:29 PM
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The leader of a nation speaking directly to the children of his country. What an incredible opportunity for some propaganda.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 05:52 PM
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and all of that's assuming that Hillary Clinton doesn't pay Dick Cheney to just shoot him in the face.


I think Dick is a much more accomplished hunter than to want to ruin the Trophy.

Just don't be the unlucky young good looking female reporter who stumbles upon him at the local sportings good store and ask for an impromptu interview.

Well maybe that's ok, but don't agree to do the next Oliver Stone movie afterwards.

That looks like it can definately be bad for your health.

Besides can anyone really prove Cheyney isn't running this administration too?



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 09:51 AM
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He doesn't have the creative thought to get the PM of Britian a better gift then a DVD set.

So yes, writing a childrens book for him could possibly be time consuming.



posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 10:37 AM
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He doesn't have the creative thought to get the PM of Britian a better gift then a DVD set.

So yes, writing a childrens book for him could possibly be time consuming.


By the way...that DVD set? It could have contained the detailed blue prints of the New World Order and protocol codes to respond militarily to a revolution against the government in the United States, and Electronic Funds Transfer Codes to crash the American Economy by wiping out the banks.

Lets hope it was just personal thoughtlessness in selecting a gift because the reality is he could have transfered what would have been a hundred volumes of printed information right under our noses in plain sight to another sovereign power.



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