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Originally posted by Saurus
I must agree with Masonic Light here. Even the Bible tells us...
Hear, O Israel: The Lord thy God is one.
Mark 12:29
Originally posted by MR.FELIZ
I find it funny how people use the bible for everthing.....any how i must agree that the masons do not care for this god...there are very little secret societies which do...if you look at it its almost like they are religions except for the whole believing in god....paganism was one of the first quote on quote religions to exist..they did not believe in a god rather they believed in the universe and nature...centuries later came catholics which added the whole creator god image....now look at freemasons....are they not doing exactly the same thing but in a different way....they are beginning fresh from paganism and then adding their own set of laws and commandements to the story...in my opinion
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
Christian symbolism depicts parts of God (such as his power), or the Trinity, but not God himself. The Bible says that He is infinite and invisible, which would be pretty tough to draw on paper.
The Statue of Liberty has a torch. And why must the torch be 33 inches long?
This site says that the Halliwell Regius MS was published in 1840. James Halliwell, the guy who published it, says that it originated in the 1300's
The Illuminati infiltrated Masonry and changed its practices.
The Ancient Egyptian heiroglyph for the "m" sound was the owl
Moloch was also known as Ba'al
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
Christian symbolism depicts parts of God (such as his power), or the Trinity, but not God himself. The Bible says that He is infinite and invisible, which would be pretty tough to draw on paper.
Untrue. Christian art has always depicted God as anthropomorphic.
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
The Statue of Liberty has a torch. And why must the torch be 33 inches long?
It was my understanding that the torch measures over 12 feet long. Where in the world did you get it was only 33 inches?
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
This site says that the Halliwell Regius MS was published in 1840. James Halliwell, the guy who published it, says that it originated in the 1300's
You've missed the point. It is recognized that the Regius was copied from an older document, and the document itself describes a Masonic gathering in York, England in the year 980 A.D.
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
The Illuminati infiltrated Masonry and changed its practices.
Nonsense. The Illuminati neither "infiltrated" Freemasonry, nor influenced the practices of the Craft a single iota. Freemasonry's practices predate the founding of the Illuminati in 1776, and Freemasonry continues long after the Illuminati ceased to exist.
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
The Ancient Egyptian heiroglyph for the "m" sound was the owl
So?
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
Moloch was also known as Ba'al
So was Jehovah, and all the Semitic gods. "Baal" was a generic term signifying "great one".
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
If you mean God as in Jesus.
The torch that George W. Bush held was 33 inches long.
The site also says that the physical evidence was dated in the 1500's.
Contributions by the recent (19th and 20th century) writers reflect a rather gruesome image of Freemasonry. Many Masons themselves deny that this is part of their practice. This disagreement about what is acceptable within Masonry is evidence of either tampering on the part of some of the members, or lying on the part of most of them.
Moloch was a sun god of the Canaanites, who inspired Freemasonry.
Originally posted by Masonic Light
No, I mean God as in God. Take, for example, this:
Link
Originally posted by Masonic Light
The torch that George W. Bush held was 33 inches long.
Originally posted by Masonic Light
The site also says that the physical evidence was dated in the 1500's.
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Contributions by the recent (19th and 20th century) writers reflect a rather gruesome image of Freemasonry. Many Masons themselves deny that this is part of their practice. This disagreement about what is acceptable within Masonry is evidence of either tampering on the part of some of the members, or lying on the part of most of them.
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Moloch was a sun god of the Canaanites, who inspired Freemasonry.
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
So was Michaelangelo a Freemason?
The irony is that this painting appears in the Sistine Chapel, even though it is completely blasphemous.
So you don't disagree with the writings of Albert Pike and company?
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Moloch was a sun god of the Canaanites, who inspired Freemasonry.
The Canaanites inspired Freemasonry, not Moloch.
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
So was Michaelangelo a Freemason?
No.
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
The irony is that this painting appears in the Sistine Chapel, even though it is completely blasphemous.
Christians do not think it is blasphemous nor ironic.
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
So you don't disagree with the writings of Albert Pike and company?
About what?
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
The Canaanites inspired Freemasonry, not Moloch.
And how exactly did they do that?
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
He was a member of the Enlightenment movement.
It's right there in the Ten Commandments, not to worship a gray-haired man with sticky fingers.
The whole Lucifer thing
In Canaanite mythology, Ba'al is aided by a craftworker-magician named Kosar-wa-Khasis (כושר וחסיס). Canaan was later influenced by Ancient Egyptian culture. Canaanite culture then spread north, and eventually into ancient Greece.
Originally posted by network dude
You have single handedly exposed the greatest secret in masonry. Illinioi masons can be pack rats.
Originally posted by exjobie
i love how easily this goat situation gets dodged. explain to me why masonic packrats had this gruesome thing in the first place.
Originally posted by exjobie
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i thought there were no goats in masonry.
Regardless of the rite a masonic lodge belongs to, the internal structure divides members based on a trinity of traits which are common to all masonic organizations: apprentice, journeyman, master. Joining the masonry and implicitly gaining the apprentice rank is done only if the person meets some mandatory conditions: faith in a supreme divinity called The Grand Architect (or any other equivalent term), an impeccable moral character, subsistence methods, respect towards all masons, etc. As we can see these are fairly easy conditions to meet which is why we believe the main factor that influences the joining is having a considerable wealth. We base our theory on the fact that most famous figures in the history of man kind which had a masonic background were very important people in a wide set of domains: political, social and economical.