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Originally posted by dnaobs
The catholic church is a perfect example of an establishment perverting scripture, for their own selfish desires.
I don't think these men where decieved into believing these things, and i can't even begin to imagine how they would be. If their lying, and it is a myth, why did they die for it? Many of the apostles where tortured or killed for teaching openly about what they believed, why on earth would you risk your life for something you know to be false?
I'm curious, who established your practices, and who decided what beliefs you should hold and what was true and what was false?
Who do you esteem as well learned, and where does your teaching come from?
Do you choose what you want to believe because it supports your preconceived opinion or do you keep and open mind to the alternative?
Have you ever considered that maybe the bible is true in its accounts, or do you hold the belief that these things are impossible therefore it didn't happen.
It's good that you recognize a creator, but you have to be careful about what you hold to be truth about him.
How can you follow only some of christs teachings? He claimed to be god, he's either a lunatic, liar or life. Pick one because a house divided cannot stand.
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
reply to post by driley
Remind us outsiders why people want to ridicule Freemasonry, if you would.
Originally posted by JoshNorton
I'm a member of the Grand Lodge of Texas. Ron Paul is not.
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
He's a member of the Grand Lodge of Texas.
Originally posted by M74
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
So it was your intention to derail the thread?
Not my intention. My intention was to ascertain why you thought it was comical to refer to a medical doctor by the title of doctor. I just noticed this has gone on long enough.
A bunch of excuses. No, he did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky.
If he were such a frail old man, then why was he running for president? He was visibly exhausted in his televised appearances. He could have a heart attack!
He's a member of the Grand Lodge of Texas.
It's obvious you've never worked on a campaign. I have on the local level, for a short period of time, and I've old college friends (non-masons, for the record) who have work for presidential campaigns as well. We've seen how politicians are isolated before a public or media appearance. It's not an excuse. It's a wholly plausible, and in fact highly likely, explanation.
And again, please provide proof of his membership in any lodge.
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
I already explained that. Anyway, lots of doctors become Freemasons to attract more clientele. Ron Paul earned his MD at Duke University, which is a Masonic organization. He has also endorsed Doctors Without Borders, which is a socialist organiztion.
And let's no forget his racist remarks, which he now denies.
That's to preserve his speaking voice, which would be unnecessary for the Bill Maher show, which uses microphones and doesn't require him to speak at the top of his lungs.
Obviously I don't have the list right in front of me. I go by what Masons tell me.
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
Anyway, lots of doctors become Freemasons to attract more clientele. Ron Paul earned his MD at Duke University, which is a Masonic organization. He has also endorsed Doctors Without Borders, which is a socialist organiztion.
Originally posted by M74
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
I already explained that. Anyway, lots of doctors become Freemasons to attract more clientele. Ron Paul earned his MD at Duke University, which is a Masonic organization. He has also endorsed Doctors Without Borders, which is a socialist organiztion.
Is there any proof for anything you just said here? How is Duke a "Masonic organization"? For the record, my father's a doctor. I grew up involved in our local medical community because of that fact. I can only think of one doctor off the top of my head from my city who is also a Mason, and I have no reason to think his membership has attracted more clients. But you're just changing the subject. None of this changes the simple fact that Ron Paul is not a Mason. And how is a humanitarian NGO a socialist organization? And again, what does this have to do with anything?
And let's not forget his racist remarks, which he now denies.
If by "deny" you mean he admitted they were written by a ghost writer he hired, one who Dr. Paul took responsibility for and fired after his inappropriate statements were discovered.
That's to preserve his speaking voice, which would be unnecessary for the Bill Maher show, which uses microphones and doesn't require him to speak at the top of his lungs.
Obviously I don't have the list right in front of me. I go by what Masons tell me.
That's not the only reason to isolate a candidate. Campaign managers and campaign handlers keep their candidates separate in order to prevent them from saying something out of turn or from saying anything that could be taken out of context off-camera. I don't doubt for a minute that they kept him secluded from the other guests prior to the show.
Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by vcwxvwligen
That's it, that's all we are.
Why wouldn't I quote the Bible?
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
The Bible does not say that Hiram Abiff was raised using the strong grip, so where's your proof for that?
So anything not mentioned in the Bible didn't happen?
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
I guess treason and murder are technically part of "the law."
Yes those would be crimes.
Well, yes, there is a standard definition of symbols, but its not just for "low-level" Masons. As you climb the ranks it doesn't change.
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
Exactly, it's to entrap the perpetrators, not to aid society at large. There is another word for this -- vengenance. I'm sure that vengeance is not a virtue that is taught in the lodge.
Entrap? What?! It's to assist in the rescue of the abducted and arrest those who have committed the crime.
An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
Nabbing the perps can also be an opportunity to learn how the child was lured in the first place. Perhaps this help Masons to "enlighten" themselves about what makes the children tick?
Again, once the data is given to the parents the Masons never have contact with the data. They don't gather data on the public. Why does everything have to be sinister?
Originally posted by Wertdagf
All Belief in a devine being is ignorant. You can put any name on a silly group or cult. Still useless and a waste of time.
Originally posted by doctordoom
I get a chuckle at seeing the same old players spewing jibberish, all while protecting their beloved Baphomet.
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by doctordoom
I get a chuckle at seeing the same old players spewing jibberish, all while protecting their beloved Baphomet.
Hey stomperino, when you say gibberish, do you mean Bill the Homeless man type gibberish or gibberish as in please use smaller words because 'this is gibberish to me' gibberish?
jibberish
A real language that girls use to tell each other things so boys won't know what they're saying.
www.urbandictionary.com...
Originally posted by doctordoom
Actually I meant jibberish
jibberish
A real language that girls use to tell each other things so boys won't know what they're saying.
www.urbandictionary.com...
Originally posted by doctordoom
Star for you Masonicus.
By the way, the Romans lost. You know that, right?
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
You liberal Ron Paul supporters should pull your heads out of the sands.
Originally posted by M74
Originally posted by vcwxvwligen
You liberal Ron Paul supporters should pull your heads out of the sands.
Please. I am far from liberal. I find that insulting, actually. I'm a moderate conservative, at best (or worst, however you view it). Either stop trolling or get your politically ideological terms correct.