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Top Researcher Admits Massive Fraud!

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posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 08:41 AM

Originally posted by redhead57
I was on both Vioxx and Celebrex and i can assure you that NSAID's are just as effective for arthritis pain.

What appears to be missing from this exchange was touched upon in the NYT article:

The reliability of dozens more articles he wrote is uncertain, and the common practice — supported by his studies — of giving patients aspirinlike drugs and neuropathic pain medicines after surgery instead of narcotics is now being questioned.

The U.S. has a very weird attitude towards medicinal narcotics in the first place, and if one was allowed to deal with pain using these proven drugs, much of this mess wouldn't have come about.

Imagine the silliness of not allowing palliative care using effective drugs! You may die in pain but least you won't get wired! In Canada, codeine is readily available for moderate pain...the lighter doses don't even require a prescription. I have back issues...on a bad day I reach for a tylenol#3...on a really bad day, I reach for a percocet. Most problem, and addictions. NSAID's work to a degree if you're lucky, but you have to be more lucky to both maintain their effectiveness over the long term and avoid ulcers.

In fact, I was told by a prominent neuroscientist who deals with pain that the addictive quality of narcotic drugs does not manifest itself when the drug is used in proportion to the pain it treats. So...proper pain management is the key.

Yes, we have 'hillbilly heroin' addicts, but it's obviously not that great a societal problem that we sentence those in pain to a life in hell.

And opiates have been used for thousands of years...if there is any pharma-conspiracy, it is because you can't patent a poppy.

The academic fraud? Shameful...goes without saying.

posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 09:20 AM

Originally posted by esecallum

Note how the mass media has not mentioned this fraud at all as they get paid to advertise these dangerous fraudulant drugs...

Admittedly it hasn't been massively reported but it has been reported in a fair few national newspapers and was picked up by before your source or other alternative news sites did.

Wall Street Journal - ‎Mar 10, 2009‎
New York Times - ‎Mar 10, 2009‎
Scientific American - ‎Mar 10, 2009‎
Boston Globe - ‎Mar 10, 2009‎
The Associated Press - ‎Mar 11, 2009‎
Boston Herald - ‎Mar 11, 2009‎ - ‎Mar 13, 2009‎
Prison Planet - Mar 14, 2009
Natural - ‎Mar 15, 2009‎

posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 11:36 AM
That bubbling sound you hear is my blood boiling.

If you watch any of the pharmaceutical companies' television ads, you'll quickly notice that at least half of the ad is a voiceover quickly running through all the "possible side effects." The list is horrendous, and usually far worse than the symptom the drug is said to cure. I guess it's all due to liability, so they can say, "I told you so..." if you suddenly die horribly from one of these side effects. Licensed homicide. The lot of them.

Back in the 70's-80's my mother was prescribed with an anti-arthritis medication called Opren. It killed hundreds. She never had a good day after taking it. How can the doctors keep their licenses when they prescribe these poisons to people? Are these clever, clever people so gullible that they believe the hype? Of course not. There's something in it for them...

As for this "scientist"/creative author; I say this guy should rot in prison. Federal prison. General population.
He should then feel just a fraction of the pain he has caused others. If you claim to ease pain, make people pay for the easing, and know that it doesn't work, you are causing the pain. That's criminal.

posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 01:48 PM
reply to post by Aggie Man

I don't know how many of you guys watch the show Lie to me on Fox, but they had a show EXACTLY on a case like this. Talk about life imitating art. The main person in the story was a person in charge of a company called "Ribocorps" and they were putting out this drug. One of the chemists stole it and sold it to someone else that fixed the problems the original had which was strokes in young people. The researcher in charge of the drug farmed out the research to a company that would doctor the results to say it was safe and made billions.
I realize it was just a show but odd how it was on last night right around the time this story broke. I am starting to see a dangerous trend. 24, Lie to me, alot of shows are starting to put stuff out that later on in the media it comes out to be the real deal.

posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 04:19 PM
Yes, as a TUFTs medical faculty member, i received an email

on this - He resigned from one medical center but not another.

Just another day, the rest of us slave like robots while this

guy lies for years while being well paid by the uber-rich Pharma companies.

I love to hate the pharmaceutical industry.

posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 05:09 PM
Not that I do drugs but I would rather smoke up a bowl of crystal meth than take pretty much anything that Big Pharma is pushing on us. Occasionally, like when my teeth were bad and I had to wait to get them pulled I took a few painkillers for that weekend but that's about as far as I will go with them. I pullled a muscle in my back - job related "injury" and had to go the doc for it so I could go back to work. The doc wanted to give me some stuff, anti-inflammatory + painkillers. I said no, why the hell do I need that for a simple pulled muscle?

I do get quite irritated at the commercials on the tele, such garbage. I love the one, asthma medicine, can't remember the name of it, but it says it could lead to asthma related death. HUH!?!?!?! How they get away with it is truly beyond the grasp of my obviously feeble mind. Seriously, they are advertising a drug that should treat asthma but could kill you. Where is the logic in that? Why people fall for this stuff, well, nothing I can do to stop them from listening to what they are being told and acting on that info. Too bad all we are told is basically lies, at least from the MSM.

posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 05:22 PM
The book of Revelation predicted this. "the merchants will be the great men of the earth and by their sorcery will all men be fooled." The Greek word for sorcery is pharmacia were we get pharmaceutical.

Call it coincidence but with what Ive seen going on I have to say they hit it on the head 2000 years ago.

posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 08:52 AM
reply to post by esecallum

This is scary! I very rarely take medications for this reason. I dont believe what they say about them. I was on a medicine they said was fine and yet through my own research online everyone who took had problems, so how is that ok?! Nothing is safe anymore it seems and we are supposed to believe and trust these people with medications that are supposed to be good and helpful and yet they arent. Thanks for the info!

posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 10:05 AM
reply to post by JohnnyCanuck

I had my surgery on March 1 and was released from the nursing home on March 31 with a small script for percocet and instructions to contact my surgeon for a refill. This man only a week after I was home told me that MOTRIN was enough and I should deal with it! At this point in my recovery I was still unable to dress by myself or even use the bathroom without help. My primary doc started me on something else.

Here is the problem that I know they are afraid of. I have been on these opiates now for years. I have had every sort of injection into my spine and the surrounding area they have out. I even underwent a procedure where they burned the nerves around the area in hopes of ending the pain, no luck. So here i am 8 years out with the effectiveness of the narcotics becoming less and sadly my body is quite addicted now, this really sucks!

I see what they are trying to avoid, hell I live it but to fabricate studies and subject people to horrible pain, well the China idea sounds pretty good for that guy! As long as medicine and profit are marching along hand in hand we can expect more of the same. How about a move to France anyone????

posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 10:28 AM

Originally posted by redhead57 So here i am 8 years out with the effectiveness of the narcotics becoming less and sadly my body is quite addicted now, this really sucks!

I'm sorry to hear about it...serious back pain is quite beyond most people's capacity to understand.

posted on Mar, 20 2009 @ 12:03 PM
The food industry feeds you poison to make you sick so the pharmaceutical industry can feed you drugs. There's a simple solution. Stop eating the poison.

If people realized how much toxic chemical overload their bodies are receiving from the food and all the products we used, they would be shocked and terrified.

I stopped eating from the mainstream food supply about 2 years ago. I also stopped using chemical-based products like soap, shampoo, lotion, makeup, deodorant, laundry detergent, etc and my health improved dramatically. I was able to get off of antidepressant medication.

Now whenever I am exposed to toxic food or chemical-based products, I get sick for a few days. Headaches, fatigue, depression, restless-leg syndrome, and more.

We need to get back to basics. Eat only natural foods without chemicals and pesticides. Use only natural products without chemicals. It's not an easy transition but it's certainly worth it to be healthy.

Another thing I'd like to add... the Natural News website contains TONS of information to educate yourself on these issues. I've read there that prescription drugs kill 100,000 people each year. We lost 3,000 people on 9/11. Which is more of an outrage?

posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 09:16 PM
I totally agree with ProfEmeritus about Peer Review. I was involved with hospital medical staff peer review and it was so frustrating to see them cover for each other and allow blatant screw ups slide past with a flimsy justification. Only if there was a doctor that they all didn't like would they scrutinize his cases until he was kicked off staff.
What bothered me most; the docs never consulted the hospital pharmacist, who was a genius in his field, and their medication utilization was , let me say ..poor.

posted on Jul, 15 2009 @ 09:32 PM
reply to post by esecallum

who cares about the doctor

why is nobody concerned that these companies where paying him to falsify data?

where is the investigation there? any legal recourse?
shouldn't they be held accountable for the illegal practices?

this is highly disturbing to say the least
no MSM coverage....100% not surprised of course

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