Originally posted by redhead57
I was on both Vioxx and Celebrex and i can assure you that NSAID's are just as effective for arthritis pain.

What appears to be missing from this exchange was touched upon in the NYT article:

The reliability of dozens more articles he wrote is uncertain, and the common practice — supported by his studies — of giving patients aspirinlike drugs and neuropathic pain medicines after surgery instead of narcotics is now being questioned.

The U.S. has a very weird attitude towards medicinal narcotics in the first place, and if one was allowed to deal with pain using these proven drugs, much of this mess wouldn't have come about.

Imagine the silliness of not allowing palliative care using effective drugs! You may die in pain but hey...at least you won't get wired! In Canada, codeine is readily available for moderate pain...the lighter doses don't even require a prescription. I have back issues...on a bad day I reach for a tylenol#3...on a really bad day, I reach for a percocet. Most days...no problem, and no...no addictions. NSAID's work to a degree if you're lucky, but you have to be more lucky to both maintain their effectiveness over the long term and avoid ulcers.

In fact, I was told by a prominent neuroscientist who deals with pain that the addictive quality of narcotic drugs does not manifest itself when the drug is used in proportion to the pain it treats. So...proper pain management is the key.

Yes, we have 'hillbilly heroin' addicts, but it's obviously not that great a societal problem that we sentence those in pain to a life in hell.

And opiates have been used for thousands of years...if there is any pharma-conspiracy, it is because you can't patent a poppy.

The academic fraud? Shameful...goes without saying.

Originally posted by esecallum

Note how the mass media has not mentioned this fraud at all as they get paid to advertise these dangerous fraudulant drugs...

Admittedly it hasn't been massively reported but it has been reported in a fair few national newspapers and was picked up by before your source or other alternative news sites did.

Wall Street Journal - ‎Mar 10, 2009‎
New York Times - ‎Mar 10, 2009‎
Scientific American - ‎Mar 10, 2009‎
Boston Globe - ‎Mar 10, 2009‎
The Associated Press - ‎Mar 11, 2009‎
Boston Herald - ‎Mar 11, 2009‎
guardian.co.uk - ‎Mar 13, 2009‎
Prison Planet - Mar 14, 2009
Natural News.com - ‎Mar 15, 2009‎

That bubbling sound you hear is my blood boiling.

If you watch any of the pharmaceutical companies' television ads, you'll quickly notice that at least half of the ad is a voiceover quickly running through all the "possible side effects." The list is horrendous, and usually far worse than the symptom the drug is said to cure. I guess it's all due to liability, so they can say, "I told you so..." if you suddenly die horribly from one of these side effects. Licensed homicide. The lot of them.

Back in the 70's-80's my mother was prescribed with an anti-arthritis medication called Opren. It killed hundreds. She never had a good day after taking it. How can the doctors keep their licenses when they prescribe these poisons to people? Are these clever, clever people so gullible that they believe the hype? Of course not. There's something in it for them...

As for this "scientist"/creative author; I say this guy should rot in prison. Federal prison. General population.
He should then feel just a fraction of the pain he has caused others. If you claim to ease pain, make people pay for the easing, and know that it doesn't work, you are causing the pain. That's criminal.

Yes, as a TUFTs medical faculty member, i received an email

on this - He resigned from one medical center but not another.

Just another day, the rest of us slave like robots while this

guy lies for years while being well paid by the uber-rich Pharma companies.

I love to hate the pharmaceutical industry.

Not that I do drugs but I would rather smoke up a bowl of crystal meth than take pretty much anything that Big Pharma is pushing on us. Occasionally, like when my teeth were bad and I had to wait to get them pulled I took a few painkillers for that weekend but that's about as far as I will go with them. I pullled a muscle in my back - job related "injury" and had to go the doc for it so I could go back to work. The doc wanted to give me some stuff, anti-inflammatory + painkillers. I said no, why the hell do I need that for a simple pulled muscle?

I do get quite irritated at the commercials on the tele, such garbage. I love the one, asthma medicine, can't remember the name of it, but it says it could lead to asthma related death. HUH!?!?!?! How they get away with it is truly beyond the grasp of my obviously feeble mind. Seriously, they are advertising a drug that should treat asthma but could kill you. Where is the logic in that? Why people fall for this stuff, well, nothing I can do to stop them from listening to what they are being told and acting on that info. Too bad all we are told is basically lies, at least from the MSM.

The book of Revelation predicted this. "the merchants will be the great men of the earth and by their sorcery will all men be fooled." The Greek word for sorcery is pharmacia were we get pharmaceutical.

Call it coincidence but with what Ive seen going on I have to say they hit it on the head 2000 years ago.

Originally posted by redhead57 So here i am 8 years out with the effectiveness of the narcotics becoming less and sadly my body is quite addicted now, this really sucks!

I'm sorry to hear about it...serious back pain is quite beyond most people's capacity to understand.

The food industry feeds you poison to make you sick so the pharmaceutical industry can feed you drugs. There's a simple solution. Stop eating the poison.

If people realized how much toxic chemical overload their bodies are receiving from the food and all the products we used, they would be shocked and terrified.

I stopped eating from the mainstream food supply about 2 years ago. I also stopped using chemical-based products like soap, shampoo, lotion, makeup, deodorant, laundry detergent, etc and my health improved dramatically. I was able to get off of antidepressant medication.

Now whenever I am exposed to toxic food or chemical-based products, I get sick for a few days. Headaches, fatigue, depression, restless-leg syndrome, and more.

We need to get back to basics. Eat only natural foods without chemicals and pesticides. Use only natural products without chemicals. It's not an easy transition but it's certainly worth it to be healthy.

Another thing I'd like to add... the Natural News website contains TONS of information to educate yourself on these issues. I've read there that prescription drugs kill 100,000 people each year. We lost 3,000 people on 9/11. Which is more of an outrage?

I totally agree with ProfEmeritus about Peer Review. I was involved with hospital medical staff peer review and it was so frustrating to see them cover for each other and allow blatant screw ups slide past with a flimsy justification. Only if there was a doctor that they all didn't like would they scrutinize his cases until he was kicked off staff.
What bothered me most; the docs never consulted the hospital pharmacist, who was a genius in his field, and their medication utilization was , let me say ..poor.