Originally posted by watcheroftheskies
first off you have done nothing to prove there isnt a global conspiracy and what youve said is merely opinion...thats all opinions are
The knife cuts both ways, bro...
on the other hand there are alot of members here on ATS who with a great deal of knowledge and research to back it up, show that there is
evidence to the contrary of your opinion...not only that but there are many researchers across the globe who have very good credentials who have done
incredible amounts of research to show that there is some substantiating factors to a conspiracy of a very sinister nature and not all of them are
named David Icke....
And none of it has convinced me. You can 'prove' anything you want, if you pick and choose the facts to fit your own agenda.
why dont you do some research your self?
I have, and have found nothing convincing.
i think you find most researchers on ATS would disagree with you....
I find many people disagree with me. But disagreement itself is not reason for me to change my views.
to just off handed make an opinion that there is no NWO or a global elite conspiracy is lacking in any true knowledge of the subject
You're going into the subject with the idea that the NWO exists. Preconceived notions are the bane of all knowledge. You cannot know anything if
you start out thinking you already '
my suggestion to you would be to do some research to prove there is no conspiracy and post it .
You can't prove a negative. I cannot prove that there is no NWO, it's your job to prove that there is one. Don't ask me to do your dirty work
or it may just be the idea of half of theese things coming true scare you !!! BOO!
That's another thing...nobosy can seem to get their story about the NWO straight. It seems everyone and their grandma have a scheme to take over the
Originally posted by KayEm
All I see when I look around are signs of the NWO.
The way the Sheeple keep their eyes and heads down and refuse to rock the boat because of what other people might say - this proves the "people
police themselves, so we don't need the sheepdogs" idea.
This is another thing that bugs me...everyone who doesn't see a conspiracy in their bowl of Cheerios is a sheeple.
I'm not scared of what other people may say about my views, as this thread should be ample proof.
The way people just put up and accept stuff that is SO ridiculous and harmful to human beings, not to mention our planet, simply because
that's the "way it is and always has been done".
Uh...what? You're thinking about "Us and them". There are plenty of people who disagree with government policies, many people that care for the
environment. But they don't all see it as a conspiracy, they just see it as problems that need to be fixed.
Stubborn adherence to the status quo - All I have to do to prove to myself that the conspiracy theorists are right is purposely go out and
challenge the status quo to some sheep. There are always one of two possible reactions. They either A. Get incredibly angry and defensive or B. tell
me I'm out of my mind. This is "people policing each other" at it's finest, people.
Who the hell do you talk to? The second reaction is probably natural, but the first I rarely, if ever, have seen.
The movie the Matrix wasn't just a movie. There were many parallels between it and 'real' life.
People DO fight to the death to defend the system because they are too inured to it. And people DON'T see simply because they refuse to.
The Matrix was an action movie with cool camera tricks. It's philosophy dates back to the ancients (might I remind you that the story for The Matrix
was stolen from many, many sci-fi stories from the past decades. It was hqrdly a new concept).
You see people as 'defending the system'. I see people as defending what they believe. I could say of you that youa re defending the 'conmpsiracy
system', because you believe in it so deeply it would shatter your worldview were it to be destroyed.
But I'm not an asshole, so I wouldn't do that
Lastly, I was telling Pisky this morning that I wouldn't be surprised if a sheeple walked into a bank and actually came face to face with a
reptillian, I'm talking visible here, folks, complete with scales and forked tongues and everything. I bet Pisky that the average person on the
street wouldn't even "see" what the logical mind was telling him was right in front of him. He would find a way to deny what he was seeing.
You've been watching too much Buffy, I think...
This is what I see when I look around out there. A bunch of sheeple, eyes cast down, denying everything they see because they are too
comfortable and complacent and want nothing to change.
Funny how people get all upset at being labeled 'conspiracy theorists', and bitch and moan about how it's just an easy label so people don't have
to listne to you. Then you go ahead and label anyone who disagrees with you
as a sheep. You're very hypocritical in that regard.
Originally posted by Seekerof
I believe, from my own college field of study and the research associated with it that the New World Order is an 'agenda', a utopian concept, and
that it is an ancient belief/concept.
If you mean the idea of an all-encompassing utopia, I agree that it is a very old and, in my opinion, noble dream. But I do not think there is an
organization past or present that ever had the serious goal of bringing it about.
As such, I, however, have no idea if it is a 'functioning' reality today. Many will say that it is, many will say that it is not. As with
anything else, proofs and evidences vary from subjective to objective. I am almost certain, that to a small, finite degree, the 'agenda' still
This, I need to disagree with. While the idea may live in the minds of some, I don't think there are any groups to be pushing 'the agenda'.
A unified world may be sought by some, and it may be a natural progression. But there is no conspiracy about it. Globalization is in the interest of
some, but it's due to their own goals, not the goals of some ancient agenda.