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Just who is Barack Hussein Obama?

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posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 04:34 PM
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Hello my dear friends!

Ive been out from ATS for few months... Changing again my position from other side of the earth to another... Enjoying months of peace after that horrible Gaza event. ( In my eyes this short peace will not last long - waiting Iran attacks to begin in about two months - By august full scale operations. )

But something came up in Rense.com:
Just who is Barack Hussein Obama?
America's defender... or destroyer

Millions of people, not limited to just Americans, are asking this question. Who is this man? Where did he come from? And, where is he taking the United States? Too many questions, and not enough answers.

www.renewamerica.us...

I really would like to hear some opinions from you too, talk about this, now when AJ:s "The Obama Deception" is out, (which I truly enjoed) and 100 days are gone - whats the mood now in here?

For me as Ron Paul supporter Obama "Hope" is shown more like a greatest threat to human kind, comparing possibilities to Adolf Hitler and Joseph Stalin...




posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 05:01 PM
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well i liked ron paul but i woulnd't say i was a supporter. i'll admit, he sucked me in with his sweet talk but at the end of the day it's just another dog and pony show.

obama as bad as stalin and hitler? wtf where did that come from? bush was in charge while we were ensuring the deaths of millions of afghanis. i think it'd be hard to top that. maybe if you'd of said monsanto was as bad as etc.. i would agree.

i really don't think obama is the problem. he's just another dope in a suit that's gonna have a cush life and a fat bank account. he looks like a little kid when he's talking except when he goes all dr. phil on ninja crack and pulls his hypno stare. then he looks just like a carni.

will things get better or worse? i don't know, but if we were to place our bets on things getting dumber and more confusing i think that'd be safe for the foreseeable future.



posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 05:35 PM
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reply to post by Mozzy
 


:-) Thanks from repply.

Yeah, it was terrible see whole year how USA was so deeply sucked in to it, again. We just have to raise our hats to media empires, who are running the show, uh?

My compare to past tyrannies comes from those empty promises (lies) made, whitch are truly impossible to keep, nor there are any true will, and to keep down the dissapointment of the people, they possibly will start use force in the end... New wars and legislations. What I have learn about US laws, it needs just Marshall Law to be declared, and then its totally different ball came. I truly am afraid of Obama administration, and that article I send raises those questions to the table - same was with Stalin and Hitler - nobody didnt know their true origins, agendas at their decades.

"Puppets from shadows..." (BTW, also Putin in Russia made that same jump - Result: Soon Caucasus war was on again in Tzetzenia and Inghusia)

I really hope that Obama wont try to compete with casualties or numbers of false flags with Bush administration, who all should be in jail what they have done. ( 911, Afghanistan, Iraq, torture, illegal prisoning of peoples, civil rights... )

About your bet, I see your point: Media and educational systems needs fast shaping... People are really going dumber every single day under this entertainment filled brainpollution wave - Happening here in Europe too!



posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 05:39 PM
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He is someone who duped the masses into believing that one low level Government employee can change a corrupt system which took over a century to put into place.



posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 05:43 PM
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reply to post by JanusFIN
 
Hello, welcome back. I read your link, and gave you a star. You are right, there has been alot of discussion involving our illegal alien pretending to be president. Take a look, there is much.




posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 05:51 PM
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Wow, another Obama bashing thread. Aren't you guys getting tired of this?
Is there a real issue to debate here instead of another hate article from a no name website?

If you want to know who Obama is, read his book, his autobiography, depicting his life down to intimate thoughts.

[edit on 18-3-2009 by nixie_nox]



posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 05:55 PM
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reply to post by Gregarious
 


That "Birth Sertificate Talk" has been going under surface for a long time... I remember how I was one of the first in ATS who raise up that serious question, but that time my threads was just removed - but not anymore


I have follow this story, and gave lot of thoughts about this question.

- Puppets needs strings - this silenced storm is very good way to blackmale mr President in every corner. Like we already have see in Freemans case - AIPAC is pulling the strings. If Obama wont do as he is told - Birth Certificate Scandal is ready waiting in every newsroom to publish big time - resulting his fast resign, and Biden is really their ace waiting for momentum.

I think Clinton, by travelling all around the world every day is "The President" in major foreign policies, and Obamas hard task is to sell NWO agenda to the public in USA.



posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 06:01 PM
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Sorry man - You really mean Rense is "no name" website?


In the end, there is no meaning who raises the question - thought has its great value, no matter who brings it up.

About the book you mention... Ah... Do you believe all the ads you see?



posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 07:46 PM
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Since you obviously don't accept the body of facts, only the bs that our illegal alien in chief drools, why are you even on this site? To try and cause problems, or to try and sway the brainless? Sorry, it wont work here. Too many intelligent, thoughtful people. So prey somewhere else.


[edit on 18-3-2009 by Gregarious]



posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 09:28 PM
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great, another fringer website asking "who is Obama", its so easy for me to go onto a far left website and some conspiracy regarding all the conservative candidates. Can we not think for ourselves objectively? Here im going to quote parts of the article,


Millions of people, not limited to just Americans, are asking this question. Who is this man?

www.economist.com...

If the rest of the world could vote 95% of them will vote for Obama. The article is correct, there are millions who question outside of america, but yea whats millions compared to billions?



Obama suddenly burst on the conscience of America less than four years ago, and more recently the world. Before that, he was a little-known state Senator from the Midwest.


What is this to imply? Because the man was not in the MSM as much 4 years ago all of sudden theres some conspiracy? And here the same folks complain about certain politicians getting too much attention... What next?? you have to be in the mainstream media for ten years to get anywhere? Is this the type of america fringers want? Or does this rather smell like hypocrisy from past arguments made?


By producing the original, unmolested and unaltered birth certificate, he could, if he is a natural born citizen, in one hour, silence those that question his natural born status and throw dozens of lawsuits out the window.


His BC has been authenticated. The only folks who refuse to believe it to be are the fringers who are but a minority, who also hold other conspiracies regarding Obama. Fringers hold hatred regardless, no use bothering with them. Kudos to Obama and company for snubbing em off.



So this raises the possibility that his mother gave up his U.S. citizenship. If she did surrender her son's U.S. citizenship, then to regain it at some point in the future would have meant he would classified as a "naturalized" citizen, not a "natural-born" citizen. We know that if Obama's mother had surrendered his U.S. citizenship that she would not have been able to comply with federal law to regain his U.S. citizenship because she herself was too young.


lie.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
(if you do not fear the truth, scroll down)



We know that in 1981, Pakistan was in turmoil and under martial law. The U.S. State Department had also placed a ban on travel to Pakistan for U.S. Citizen's. Did Obama illegally travel to Pakistan in 1981 as a U.S. citizen, or did he travel there under a passport issued to him from Indonesia?


Another lie
www.abovetopsecret.com...


While in Selma, Alabama he claimed that he was born in 1965, not 1961. Oh, the tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive.


One slip doesnt prove anything. Obamas BC has been authenticated and this article is still yet to prove anything of any evidential significance, infact it has made no references to any of the points put up.


Obama surround himself with people that seem to all share anti-American, Socialist/Marxist thoughts and plans for America? People like William Ayers


Give me one reference where one of Obamas friends said they hated all white people and America. A direct reference, not what the fringers consider. I would also like a quote where Obama said that.


Therein lies the telling.


Your telling me....

This man brings up the typical fringer talk that has been debunked time and time again. Its nothing new and I have no idea why you continue to repeat the same thread. The idea of an "mysterious" Obama can only be restricted to the fringer community. I find it laughable how there is always some attempt by the fringers to make as if they are the rest of the nation and the world, when they only account for a minor.... paranoid... fraction whos rumors dont travel too far out of the conspiracy boards...

If anything we know more about Obama than any other president prior, and I will admittedly thank the fringers for that fact. Nevertheless I ask folks here to tell me how they know GW Bush, Washington, Reagan and Ford more than Obama.

Thanks.




[edit on 18-3-2009 by Southern Guardian]



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 05:09 AM
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Thanks from your point of views!

But dozen lawsuits is still a mess. With pure and clear statement from Obama administration, and by bringing out asked evidence these lawsuits would fade away fast... Thats not the situation now.

Its very dangerous for whole country of USA - if there is a hidden way to blackmale US president with issues like this - and this question should run its important debate in MSM.

Usually presidents word wide are well known figures from countrys political history. Black horses in political scene are always a great threat for public interest, but special opportunities to elite groups - Obama is easyly made to be as they want - and there is no political history to make comparisons for his past and recent behaviour in important issues.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 05:29 AM
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here comes southern gaurdian with his nauseaus logic and bleeding heart "obama is lord" campaign.

could you please just shut your mouth we were even talking about his BC. regardless of where he was born he's still a puppet and probably the worst of them all. because YOU believe in him and would cut your fingers off for the man.

the simple point of the BC is that he has never shown it and he never will. yet you still believe the man just because he tells you to.

the only rational reason he would not show his BC has been discussed before and it's a very good point. he may be a hempahrodite or he may have a rare blood disease. both of which would show on his BC and both of which would be understandable as to why he wouldn't want to show it.

other than that he's lying to you and you're lapping it up out of a dog's bowl.

now please, go invade someone else's thread or, GOD FORBID, make your own thread and discuss your own topic. we don't care about his BC anymroe we know he's a liar.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 05:32 AM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
another Obama bashing thread. Aren't you guys getting tired of this?

Aren't you getting tired of defending the indefendable?

Get used to it, nixie_nox. 8 years of Bush-bashing went on (and most of it was deserved). It's Obama's turn. If he wasn't screwing up so badly then he wouldn't be getting his so hard.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 05:34 AM
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Originally posted by Southern Guardian
His BC has been authenticated.


No it hasn't. All some person in Hawaii said was that they had it under lock and key. No one has 'authenticated' anything. And what the DailyKos printed was an obvious fraud. Obama's father has his race listed as 'african'. that's not a race. That's a continent.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan
No it hasn't.


You keep on telling yourself that, it doesnt make a difference.


All some person in Hawaii said was that they had it under lock and key.


The COLB is the shorter certification of the longer form and by all means considered a BC. He has, under the constitutional republic laws of the land, satisfied his eligibility. Unless you have any constitutional counter posts, or some proof he was born in Kenya, your dead in the water.


No one has 'authenticated'


Its been authenticated, as I said above.


And what the DailyKos printed was an obvious fraud.


The fringe thinks its fraud. The fringe also thought Obama was the anti-christ. This same fringe is known to be pushing the NWO garbage all day. They are welcome to believe what they want.


Obama's father has his race listed as 'african'.


The father was given the choice as to what race to be listed. Barack Obamas father was not an american citizen and as such had the choice of race, and as he was from africa he was listed as such.

One liners FF, no evidence. Im not surprised this is all that I get from you.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 03:14 PM
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Originally posted by Mozzy
here comes southern gaurdian with his nauseaus logic and bleeding heart "obama is lord" campaign.


Oh im so so so sorry for replying to your threads. I forgot this is a only fringer thread right? Only folks who shake their heads pointlessly at the conspiracies.



could you please just shut your mouth


Why its my right to express my opinions, its my right to join in the thread. Do you have an issue with people with other points of view? Yes your probably one of em fringers who will preach the constitution in one thread and totally contradict yourself in the next.


we were even talking about his BC.


The article talks in part about the birthcerticate. Read my first post to see what it actually says in the article.


he's still a puppet


Talk about off topic, take your NWO conspiracy somewhere else.


the only rational reason


You folks have gone far beyond rational.


he would not show his BC


Yes he has, and its been authenticated. The fringe has not shown an evidence to prove otherwise.


he's a liar.


Your accusing that man of lying, and yet your verymuch happy to take the word of some article that makes some very major accusations, with nothing to show for it, with major incorrections as I pointed out.



posted on Mar, 19 2009 @ 03:59 PM
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Is it just me? Every time I look at Obama, I keep thinking I'm looking at a man with Arabic features. I'm not being influenced by his middle name (which they constantly flaunt by the way)... I actually think I'm looking at an Arab.

I could be entirely wrong though. For all I know, his parents might be Dick Cheney and Larry Silverstein.
[edit on 19-3-2009 by Albertarocks]

[edit on 19-3-2009 by Albertarocks]



posted on Apr, 1 2009 @ 10:49 AM
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I think it may be just you.
He looks like your average light skin biracial man.


Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by nixie_nox
another Obama bashing thread. Aren't you guys getting tired of this?

Aren't you getting tired of defending the indefendable?

Get used to it, nixie_nox. 8 years of Bush-bashing went on (and most of it was deserved). It's Obama's turn. If he wasn't screwing up so badly then he wouldn't be getting his so hard.



No. Maybe you don't recall, but the Bush bashing didn't start well until around 2003 (the Iraq War). The critique was actually based on the way he was running the country (the Patriot Act, etc). All the bashing for President Obama (who's been in office for 3 months) so far has to do with his name, him possibly being a Muslim, and other superficial things.



posted on Apr, 1 2009 @ 09:56 PM
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What is a fringer? You've seriously said it at least 30 times, it's not in the dictionary, and even the forum says it's not a word. Can you explain to me why I am a fringer just because I don't agree with the president?



posted on Apr, 3 2009 @ 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by nixie_nox
If you want to know who Obama is, read his book, his autobiography, depicting his life down to intimate thoughts.

I have to politely disagree on that. Adolph Hitler said he was a born-again Christian, and needed to defend his people from the Jews. Listen to a monster, and he will tell you not to fear, everything is all right. My option is to read his HISTORY, and observe who his friends are. A man is known by the friends he makes, and the enemies he keeps. He hangs with low-life criminals, but he has a magic power of persuasion. He came out of Chicago crime/govt. after a long time of living in the US. Observe how compromising he was in Congress. Like, zero. Most leftist, socialist/communist. Not willing to compromise his leftist agenda, ever.
It will not be long before America realizes what they did, and he will become the most hated man in US politics, ever. And he will not last four years. One way or the other, and I fear the armed insurrection possibility. I hope to be out of the US shortly.
In short, believing a trained liar is not very smart. Read his history.

[edit on 18-3-2009 by nixie_nox]



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