Obama, Congress knew about AIG bonuses for months

Problem - Reaction - Solution

We are going to be bombarded with this type of outrage by our politicians because the G-20 is coming up. We all know what the world puppets have for a solution - it's called a world bank with a one world currency. They are just conditioning our minds to accept it when they decide to do it. The G-20 summit is April 2nd, I think. Keep an eye on it.

If they ever had any intentions of dealing with this problem, then lots of people would already be in jail and they wouldn't be throwing money into the largest black hole the universe has ever seen.

[edit on 18-3-2009 by JohnHolmes]

reply to post by Noccy


I am all for revision of government parties. That is, if you count revision as completely wiping them out! Why do we even need parties? The only thing parties ever seem to accomplish is attracting the lazy minded, and dividing the people. Whatever happened to voting for the best candidate?

As we say down south, "we've been Robbed, Stobbed and Cobbed." And they didn't even break out the K-Y

reply to post by nixie_nox


I dont know where you are getting your facts but i would bet the farm that Limbaugh has a much better grasp on them(the facts) then all of the media combined. This is another smoke screen by the new regime, and to say they knew nothing of these bonuses is a blatant LIE.... another LIE from the messiah's mouth is for him to stand up in front of the whole nation and say that edward liddy has nothing to do with this because he just got there, thats bull!!! liddy has been there the whole time, he took over because the other guys kept dropping like flies, and he was next in line, and has been there the whole time,and YES, liddy is also to blame because he knew about the bonuses as well. Are you going to keep blaming bush forever, because i remember obama and friends pressuring the bush admin. into the first bailout, but thats typical for democrats, create the problem then push someone into a bad fix, then claim they had nothing to do with any of it!!!!!!

reply to post by sliceNodice


Unfortunately we will never be able to abolish political parties, even if it were possible to do so eventually new ones would form. People tend to align themselves with others that have the same views, religious beliefs, morals so eventually we would be back to a political party system.

Originally posted by sliceNodice
reply to post by Noccy

 

I am all for revision of government parties. That is, if you count revision as completely wiping them out! Why do we even need parties? The only thing parties ever seem to accomplish is attracting the lazy minded, and dividing the people. Whatever happened to voting for the best candidate?

We don't need parties. The global elite need parties. It keeps us divided and we waste time bickering amongst ourselves. While we are distracted, they push their agendas behind the scenes. True genius, to tell you the truth. When we get sick of one party, we elect another and the global elite retain the puppet strings.

reply to post by XD9611


Yes I will blame Bush forever for this particular economic situation, I mean lets face facts the Bush administration has to take some portion of the blame. I believe the economy was heading for a recession anyway but I do not think it would have ended up this bad had it not been for some very poor decisions by the Bush administration.

You want to call someone out on lies, lets talk about WMD's? Of course no staunch republican ever wants to touch that one with a 10 foot pole. Point being had the policies been stricter with regards to the banks and the subprime market we wouldn't even be worrying about the AIG bonuses. Why? Because AIG would not have needed a bailout.

And I guess I am suprised somewhat for people who claim to deny ignorance and say the MSM is corrupt you sure do take the MSM word as gospel.

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Originally posted by Noccy
reply to post by XD9611

 

Yes I will blame Bush forever for this particular economic situation, I mean lets face facts the Bush administration has to take some portion of the blame. I believe the economy was heading for a recession anyway but I do not think it would have ended up this bad had it not been for some very poor decisions by the Bush administration.

You want to call someone out on lies, lets talk about WMD's? Of course no staunch republican ever wants to touch that one with a 10 foot pole. Point being had the policies been stricter with regards to the banks and the subprime market we wouldn't even be worrying about the AIG bonuses. Why? Because AIG would not have needed a bailout.

I started this topic..

Obama, Congress knew about AIG bonuses for months

And I'm pretty sure I was not talking about freakin WMD's..
We are talking about Obama coming on TV Monday, all choked up with outrage, over just learning about AIG bonus's...
It was an ACT, he knew for MONTHS, so did his wonder boy GEITHNER, so did the DEMOCRAPS in congress..THATS what we are talking about here,so don't think for a minute, that we are going to let your post or others like yours, steer our eyes off the ball..Its NOT going to work this time. This is about OBAMA being a LIAR, Geithner LIAR, congress LIARS..
Go to another topic and post about blaming Bush, and WMD's ....

reply to post by Noccy


the subprime policies smell of dodd and frank, the bush admin. had nothing to do with forcing banks to loan, try acorn, freddie and fannie, big contributors to OBAMA, sure bush was a F#@$ up, but you need to do more homework, bush was calling for oversight with regards to the mortgage problem years ago, and the WMD thing is just laughable, he used those on our troops in the first gulf war and on his own people, i know ,i was there, you people and your "NO WMD's" are outragious, is it possible that he moved the wmd's, because he had 6 months warning thanks to the MSM, maybe he sold them?? you wmd people act as if saddam is an innocent victim WTF?! Lets try to stay on TOPIC.

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reply to post by MissysWorld


Thank You OP!!!!

Definitely Stars & Flags for this thread..........

reply to post by MissysWorld


I don't care if you started the topic or not, you obviously opened the floor up for discussion here. So I thought that this was an open forum to discuss your opinions on the situation at hand. So Obama lied, great I can accept that and I actually expect that out of ANY politician. You want to go out and start a witchhunt because a politician lied about a stimulus bill? Anyone that had a hand in writing that bill and signing it knew of the bonus loopholes. I was not trying to derail your post by talking about WMD's I was simply stating that lying in office is not something new.

Here's the newest FACT..Humm I don't see anything about Bush or WMD's..

Senate quietly stripped measure restricting bonuses from bailout legislation

A new revelation in the scandal surrounding AIG's decision to pay multi-million dollar bonuses to executives -- a provision that would have restricted companies receiving federal government bailout aid from paying bonuses was quietly stripped from a bill last month.

rawstory.com...
Liars, Liars..pants on fire,...
Obama's dreams of a socialist society is burning fast..Let it burn baby..let it burn...
No worries..Obama can always get a job as a stand up comic on Jay Leno....

reply to post by donttaserme


Hello all. New member here; site was reccomended to me by a coworker, and I've grown addicted in the past few weeks.

I think the only two presidents to have impeachment proceedings initiated against them were Andrew Johnson & Bill Clinton. Obviously neither produced actual impeachments, but if my memory serves me correct, Johnson barely squeaked out of it.

This whole situation is a mess; I can't believe that the system has reached this point. As a member of a younger generation, I can say that there's a lot of really pi@@ed off post-college graduates out there whose naive ideals about good goverment have been pretty much smashed into the ground. I'm still shocked every day to see these presidential approval ratings, and I just can't reconcile them with what everyone in my community is saying.

reply to post by jeffbagpiper


Jeff...as a member of the younger generation, just think of this time in history, as a great learning experience.. And never, ever vote for anyone because they look or sound "Cool", or because they look good on the cover of GQ...Always search for the truth behind the words, and always remember.."If it sounds to good to be true, it usually is"

reply to post by nyk537


WEll that was Chris Dodd in the senate. Not Obama and Congress like in the title.

and yes, that was quite a shady move.

And this amendment referred to any bonuses before february 11. it is now March. Most likely allowing any bonuses from 2008 that were already coming down the pike to go through.

Still has nothign to do with this round of bonuses.

reply to post by XD9611


I am not blaming Bush actually. I am just saying he was in office when this whole bailout thing started.

reply to post by nixie_nox


Are you kidding me?

It has nothing to do with this round of bonuses? The bonuses that were specifically protected in language in the Stimulus bill (written by Pelosi's office) written by a top Democrat (Dodd), who also received the most in campaign donations from AIG....topping Obama only by measley thousands of dollars? The legislation that was passed by Congress and signed into law by the President (Obama)?

Those bonuses? Those people?

Like I said, their saying they knew nothing about these bonuses after specifically protecting them in legislation shows either supreme ignorance (they don't read what they sign into law) or utter dishonesty (they don't care one way or the other).

:shk:

Here is a link to todays Market Ticker..read it...
"Had enough FRAUD America?"
market-ticker.org...

The entire claim and chain of events rests on the fact that market participants, up to and including Ben Bernanke at The Federal Reserve, were and are aware that these CDS contracts are in fact fraudulent in that there is no way performance can take place, yet everyone up and down the line is allowing these "assets" to be counted as "money good" on the books of banks and other financial institutions!

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reply to post by nixie_nox

As word spread Friday about the new and retroactive limit -- inserted by Democratic Sen. Christopher Dodd of Connecticut -- so did consternation on Wall Street and in the Obama administration, which opposed it.

Can that be any clearer? It was Obama officials, not Dodd, who demanded that already-vested bonus payments be exempted. And it was Dodd, not Obama officials, who wanted the prohibition applied to all compensation agreements, past and future.

www.salon.com...

Now why would Obama, behind closed doors, argue to leave the door open for bonuses but publically criticize the bonuses? Nothing to do with AIG was one of his largest campaign contributors?

Dodd, Obama, Congress, AIG, Bush...
Doesn't ANYONE get it? They are ALL gang-raping us.
I don't know why we continue to sit here arguing over what so & so knew, when...
Nothing will come of this. Nothing ever does. The rapists keep their money, the government circus rolls on, and NO BODY goes to jail (or even loses their jobs)!
They are ALL corrupt to the CORE.

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You guys are surprised that politicians are acting like politicians?

Both parties suck.
One party lies and cheats to your face.
The other party lies and cheats behind your back while claiming they are good god fearing christians and would never do the sorts of things the other party does.

Both parties are full of it. And what do we do as americans. Nothing! Boy I tell ya if the people that live in the USA lived back in the revolutionary days we'd all still be british.