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reply posted on 17-3-2009 @ 11:57 AM by jdub297
Originally posted by sickofitall2012
reply to post by disgustedbyhumanity
Don't you understand that by forcing insurance companies to reimburse the VA, that all our health care premiums will be raised to such a level that it will force the system to fail and that will in turn force us to accept socialized medicine?


I think that's what he's hoping for. What if Obama doesn't pass a health care plan? Or it doesn't cover the things VA does?

And you are absolutely right; no insco is going to accept additional coverage without additional premiums to cover the risk.

jw


reply posted on 17-3-2009 @ 12:49 PM by ZindoDoone
Originally posted by disgustedbyhumanity
reply to post by Zaphod58


In thelink I posted above it clearly says that the VA recieved over $2 billion from private insurance companies last year. So you are wrong. I don't think any vet takes it as an insult. They just care that they get the care they need. And under the old or proposed rules that will not change and it will not mean a penny out of any soldiers wallet.


That was reimbursment for diseases and injuries not incurred by battle! To expect insurance companies to then reimburse the VA for battle injuries is ludicrous. This will definately hurt Vets by forcing the premiums up for the simple reason they become higher risks to their bottom line! I am not wrong on this. My whole family has worked and still do work for the insurance companies in Hartford for 60 years. My niece is an actuary! YOU ARE WRONG!

Zindo

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reply posted on 17-3-2009 @ 01:39 PM by sickofitall2012
reply to post by disgustedbyhumanity

Here is why we don't want socialized medicine....
news.bbc.co.uk...



reply posted on 17-3-2009 @ 01:44 PM by disgustedbyhumanity
reply to post by sickofitall2012


I don't want socialized health care and neither does Obama. Obama wants a system that will stop the very thing you are pointing towards. Meaning that medical care givers who don't make the grade, will not be getting the bucks.


reply posted on 17-3-2009 @ 01:54 PM by sickofitall2012
reply to post by disgustedbyhumanity


You're right about not making the grade, however, the waiting period for non-life threatening care will be years. That's if they approve your claim. The government can't run social security, medicare, or medicaid. So how will they take care of 300 million peoples' health care. There is not enough bureaucracy to handle it, and if there was, you think medicare and medicaid scams are bad now? We need less government and more responsible people to take care of their own families instead of letting the government do it.


reply posted on 17-3-2009 @ 03:42 PM by jdub297
reply to post by sickofitall2012

Exactly! The Guardian (UK) ran this a day or so ago. It's true elsewhere, too.

"Socialized" medicine is rationed care; no more and much less, at times.
Libs don't want to see that it just does not work.

Maybe the libs/dems/progressives should make an appointment with Michael Moore next time they need Rx or an M.D.

jw


reply posted on 17-3-2009 @ 10:34 PM by jdub297
reply to post by LiquidMirage

Good point. Maybe that's why they're only coming back a few at a time. They will turn once they find out.


reply posted on 17-3-2009 @ 11:09 PM by burntheships
reply to post by Stormdancer777


I am not sure...but I like the sound of it. What is at the heart of this outrageous idea? As a previous poster asked...what is next, making our soldiers pay for thier own food and uniforms?

I think the President of The United States should have to pay for his medical out of his own healthcare also...oh wait...


reply posted on 18-3-2009 @ 11:41 AM by jdub297
reply to post by burntheships

The vets will speak out - they are not afraid. Commander Rehbein seems to imply more than that, though.

Civilians and vets are trying to make themselves heard now and will continue to do so. Haven't gotten any MSM support, but "Boston Tea Party" style demonstrations are happening everywhere and more are coming together.

See this:
www.abovetopsecret.com...


deny ignorance

jw


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reply posted on 18-3-2009 @ 01:59 PM by jdub297
reply to post by Verd_Vhett

Commander Rehbein says he warned Obama of "unimagined" consequences if this thing happens. Word should have reached Iraq and Afghanistan by now. Korean units heard about it yesterday.

I expect soldiers' responses to the American Legion to be coming in already.

jw


reply posted on 18-3-2009 @ 02:14 PM by jdub297
reply to post by rcwj75
Even worse, when you think about it is the fact that people are giving HIM money to do this!

Insurance giant AIG gave him $100k last year.

People are getting "fed" up with the feds.


jw


reply posted on 19-3-2009 @ 08:05 AM by jdub297
reply to post by Verd_Vhett


1. I don't believe NBC/MSNBC any more than I believe Obama. Funny, they report his "retraction," but said absolutely nothing about his "plan" in the first place. Fit's right in with their agenda to show BHO as our hero and man of reason.

2. It makes you wonder how many other such "plans" this administration has in store to float for reaction.

jw


reply posted on 20-3-2009 @ 07:16 PM by jdub297
reply to post by Heike
Thank you. You're the hope we do this for you as well as our concern for our survival. Bless you.
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