Originally posted by Zaphod58

It doesn't matter if they will have to dip into their own pockets or not. The amount of money that this will raise is paltry, and even ASKING them to reimburse the VA for their treatment is pathetic and ridiculous. These soldiers are risking everything for their country, and even ASKING them to do this is an insult.

I stand by that statement. It doesn't matter if they have to pay for the treatment or not. Even passing ANY bill on to their private insurance for reimbursement is a slap in the face to these soldiers. They have been given treatment at the VA with no reimbursement asked of any insurance company. If they were going to bill retirees or soldiers who were just sick that would be one thing. But these soldiers are the ones who were wounded, and there should be nothing going to any of their private insurance companies.

You say that it won't affect their rates, and they don't have to pay anything. How do you know the insurance companies won't raise their rates? The company is going to have to pay, and they'll want to get their money back from SOMEONE.

[edit on 3/17/2009 by Zaphod58]

Originally posted by disgustedbyhumanity
...realize that Obama's main health plan adresses these concerns and makes them a moot point.

What "plan?" Describe for me, please, the terms of this plan that cover soldiers' costs.

I know of several of Obama's "plans," "pledges," and "promises" and have yet to see a single one delivered as promised.

This is one I HOPE he reneges on!

Re-post your reply when this actually occurs and I'll apologize for this thread. Until his 'health care program' pays the first cent for a soldier, your reply is wishful thinking at best, dishonest at worst.

jw

[edit on 17-3-2009 by jdub297]

this proposal to charge soldiers insurance companys more for their combat related injuries is dead as far as the DEMOCRATIC congress is concerned.

read this from the STARS & STRIPES article

The VA already taps "third party" insurance plans for treatment of non-service-related conditions. Collections in fiscal 2008 totaled $2.4 billion. The VA expects to collect $2.5 billion this year. The total could jump to $3 billion next year if care of service-connected conditions are included.

Shinseki emphasized that this is only a consideration and not yet part of Obama’s budget request. But members of the veterans’ committees wanted Shinseki to know they won’t support the proposal.

"Veterans with service-connected injuries have already paid by putting their lives on the line. … We should take care of those injuries completely," said Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash.

Though she recognized that no formal proposal had yet reached Congress, Murray told Shinseki, "I can assure you it will be dead on arrival if it lands here."

Shinseki said the issue is solely about financing, and not about continuing to deliver superior care.

"That is not discussable," Shinseki said.

HAVE ANY OF YOU READ YOUR INSURANCE POLICIES??? THEY DON'T COVER YOU FOR ACTS OF WAR! HOW IS THIS GOING TO WORK WITH HIS HIGHNESSES PLAN???

Complete idiocy and ignorance by this administration and no research done by their minions! No insurance company is going to get their actuaries to total the risk and premiums involved in this foolish, risky plan!
Zindo

[edit on 3/17/2009 by ZindoDoone]

Originally posted by jimmyx
...i don't know any democrat that DOES NOT support the constitution

Except for Barack Obama, if you've read his books and believe what he says in them.

... every one of my friends have guns and know how to use them and we all support the second amendement.

Have you told that to BHO and Eric Holder, who want to limit your access to firearms?

we have alot of enemies that would love to come and take over our land, and i for one will not go for it

Does this include the sponsors of the "Food Safety Act", who want to eliminate small farmers and private food growers?

Your Democrat "friends" in the White House are doing this, and more.

It really doesn't matter what label you put on these people- liberal, Democrat, progressive- if you judge them by their ACTIONS.

jw

I think those people who are getting screwed by Barack Hussein need to go march on Washington. THAT makes me angry.

It's looking like the 30s... depression and vets being screwed...

Originally posted by disgustedbyhumanity
Is not one of you human enough to admit that you read this wrong and that this is not a proposal against america's soldiers?

I will accept the opinions of the Commander of the American Legion and the ten other veterans' representatives (who met with Obama and Emmanuel and the Veterans' Affairs Director) when they say that this is not "moral," "disgusting and an outrage."

Go back and read the title of this thread. Better yet, read the link; that's why it's there, I think.

I care nothing for any insurance company, they are the root of all our health care funding problems.

Deny Ignorance!

jw

I heard about it yesterday. Its disgusting and insulting that they'd even consider it. Our military veterans shouldn't be expected to pay a dime of their combat-related medical bills. That includes paying insurance premiums.

Obama is trying to pull an end-around by forcing it through private insurance, but anyone with any common sense realizes what will happen: insurance premiums, either on the soldiers themselves or for everyone else will skyrocket. And that's just wonderful, considering how broken the insurance system in this country already is.

I think someone else was onto something. This is probably part of an agenda to drive up insurance premiums even further and have the public screaming for socialized medicine.

[edit on 17-3-2009 by vor78]

I have just a bit of skepticism on this whole thing. There have been numerous proposals attributed to Obama that are nowhere close to what the real proposal is. If this proposal actually is what the OP and others on the thread have said I'm surprised t the point of shock that the Republicans aren't all over the media about it. I mean, this is paydirt for Obama detractors. The motherlode. They could paint him anti-American, un-Patriotic the whole ball-of-wax with this. But they aren't. I have to wonder why? They've certainly tried with everything else that has come out of the Whitehouse.