Do Other Universes Really Exist?, page 1
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reply posted on 16-3-2009 @ 11:53 PM by ahnggk
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Might be but I'm more curious at what's in store outside this universe or other universes for that matter

I like to theorize that the universe isn't infinite. Even if we find out later that it's infinite. Infinity may only be an illusion.

Who knows, the universe may be part of a lab experiment with men in white coats. With the universe operating in a much different time scale... With our reality going in a rate billions of times faster than those outside the universe, who can actually watch the galaxies move, merge, the stars born and die, civilizations rise and fall, w/e just a thought.

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reply posted on 12-10-2009 @ 05:44 PM by sharps
There's no doubt whatsoever in my mind that other universes exist. An infinite number of them. You have the infinite number of 'many worlds' parallel universes.The infinite number of 'out of phase' universes (which some people believe is the explanation for ghosts and other paranormal activity). And the infinite number of unrelated universes. I'm currently a fan of Brane Theory.

I love GRBs they're the brightest and most powerful objects in the universe and are the ultimate death ray. I think I must have misunderstood you about one thing because you said:

"they're so large that they threaten us even though they're not even IN this universe".

This is wrong, they absolutely are in this universe. Apparently about one a day is observed from Earth. A GRB within the Milky Way but billions of miles away from us could easily wipe all life on Earth out, especially if its beams are pointing toward us. Current belief is that it must be at least a billion years since a GRB occured within The Milky Way. Many people, me included believe that won of the reasons we don't immediately see the heavens littered with civilisations is that they died out due to GRBs.

I don't 'currently' believe our universe is infinite, I say currently because when the science and the facts change so do my opinions. It may have always been here in the sense that a big bang is followed by a big crunch followed by a big bang followed by a big crunch etc. This stance does away with the 'what happened before the big bang problem'.

One thing I find really fascinating is that if there are an infinite number of universes where every possible 'state' occurs somewhere, then it means an infinite number exist where we are merely a simulation, virtual reality, a hologram. That then begs the question, a simulation created by who? And in answering that question it is revealed that it's infinitely more probable that we are in a simulation, rather than a real one, though it should be noted that not all infinities are the same.

The trouble with Hawking is that everyone thinks he's a genius. He most definitely is not. He is a very intelligent man who understands the work that geniuses before him have done. He has a very poor track record with his own research. Take his relationship with Roger Penrose a much more intelligent man than him. Penrose and Hawking have had many debates over the years and they used to make bets as to who was right. Penroses office walls were (and may still be) covered in framed letters from Hawking admitting he was wrong and that Penrose was right. I am disabled and have sympathy for him in regard to his health etc. He's overcome a lot to remain in his chosen field but he's not a genius, he's an asshole, and both extremely arrogant and narcissistic. He jumps on the bandwagon of other peoples work, and has only ever really had one original idea in his life. This idea of his has never been proven and always used to be described as a conjecture. When looking back with hindsight you realise that a child could have come up Hawking Radiation and black whole evaporation.

I'm sure someone will come along and totally disagree but thats my 2 cents
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