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Mr. Obama ready to charge wounded vets for their care

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posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 07:13 PM
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WASHINGTON, March 16 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The leader of the nation's largest veterans organization says he is "deeply disappointed and concerned" after a meeting with President Obama today to discuss a proposal to force private insurance companies to pay for the treatment of military veterans who have suffered service-connected disabilities and injuries. The Obama administration recently revealed a plan to require private insurance carriers to reimburse the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) in such cases.



The Commander, clearly angered as he emerged from the session said, "This reimbursement plan would be inconsistent with the mandate ' to care for him who shall have borne the battle' given that the United States government sent members of the armed forces into harm's way, and not private insurance companies. I say again that The American Legion does not and will not support any plan that seeks to bill a veteran for treatment of a service connected disability at the very agency that was created to treat the unique need of America's veterans!"


Making troops injured in battle have to deal with deductables, maximum coverage limits and other foibles of private insurance? What is Mr. Obama thinking? Or is it his lack of thought, and inexperience for the job, rearing its ugly head again?




posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 07:17 PM
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Well it is their fault for not avoiding detection and allowing themselves to get wounded
This is ridiculous!


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posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 07:20 PM
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This man is no commander-in-chief. This man is no leader. This man has no courage. This man is a fraud, bone-deep.

He can afford to send the corrupt-no education-Detroit school system 500 million, but doesn't want to pony up for our vets?

This is the man many elected. This is the man who is a walking, talking disaster. This man was the media darling. No one knew who he was, where he came from, and since he had no track record of any accomplishment whatsoever, even a single job, there's no telling what else he'll do.

Tell me you can't polish and buff out a turd . . .



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 07:21 PM
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If I were Obama....I wouldn't piss off war veterans.

If there is ANYONE out there that should have their medical costs paid for by taxpayers...it's OUR VETERANS!!



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by dooper
This man is no commander-in-chief. This man is no leader. This man has no courage. This man is a fraud, bone-deep.

He can afford to send the corrupt-no education-Detroit school system 500 million, but doesn't want to pony up for our vets?

This is the man many elected. This is the man who is a walking, talking disaster. This man was the media darling. No one knew who he was, where he came from, and since he had no track record of any accomplishment whatsoever, even a single job, there's no telling what else he'll do.

Tell me you can't polish and buff out a turd . . .


I feel ya man. I will tell you why he will spend that money on the detroit school system over V.A., It is more important for him to indoctrinate children into thinking complaining veterans are terrorists than to pay for the care that these brave men and women need.



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 07:36 PM
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Oh all hail Obama! Our great socialist leader has arrived! Come all ye ignorant please vote for Obama!





posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 07:37 PM
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Obama does not want the vets to pay. That is a pure misstatement. What Obama wants is if they also have private insurance that the insurance pays. This by no means says that Obama wants veterens to pay for their own care. Doesn'tmatter to me as i will even pay it in taxes or in insurance premiums. Either way we pay and both ways the vets get their treatment. Health insurance industry should be pissed but i don't care because they have ripped us off forever.

Anothe rpoint is that tehs evets will probably get better care in the private system anyways. Which by the way is the way Obama wants to keep it. He just wants the risk spread over allcitizens as a group which will lower premiums.

The OP should change his title and clatify that it is insuranc companies and not the veterans that have to pay.



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 07:40 PM
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The OP should not change his title.



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 07:46 PM
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Making troops injured in battle have to deal with deductables, maximum coverage limits and other foibles of private insurance? What is Mr. Obama thinking? Or is it his lack of thought, and inexperience for the job, rearing its ugly head again?

Maybe all the soldiers that Obama is sending to Afghanistan should refuse to go. After all, if he won't even pay for ALL of their medical care, if they are wounded, why should they go?
Let Obama and his thugs go to Afghanistan, and fight, if they really believe that the US should be there.

Also, why not stop PARTYING at the White House every week?
www.politico.com...

St. Patty's party, budget event By AMIE PARNES A White House aide tells POLITICO44 that Obama (O’Bama?) will be hosting a big St. Patrick’s day bash at the White House ... ... Tuesday night. On the guest list: Irish American lawmakers and other Irish Americans. We're also hearing that Obama will be participating in a budget-related event tomorrow. Details to come.


HOW MANY WOUNDED VETERANS WOULD THAT PARTY PAY FOR?

Obama's actions are criminal. Some "Commander in Chief".



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 07:47 PM
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Well, let me put it this way.

Either they pay for their healthcare or we pay for it.

With the economy the way it is, I need to keep my hands on as much of my cash as possible. I am broke.

if any of you want to go pay for all their healthcare be my guest. It must be nice to have all that extra money lying around to do something so generous as paying the whole worlds medical bill.

Hey while you are at it. Send some money my way, I would love to get my feet fixed. I have screwed up tendons in my feet that over time are damaging the muscle and bones and it is going to require surgery to fix. Which one of you wants to pay for it for me?

I hate wearing glasses how about you cough up some money for lasicks surgery.

No? You dont want to pay for my surgeries? why should they get special treatment then? Why is it ok for tax payer money to go to them and not to everyone else?

I pay my taxes I am an american citizen. I was born and raised here. I have a job. Why shouldnt everybody get that same treatment?

It seems pretty elitist to give better treatment to some than to others....

No one gains more rights just for joining the military so why should they have access to free healthcare when no one else does?

I say give it to EVERYONE or NO ONE.

To those of you are are no doubt assuming I voted for Obama.... I DIDNT!So get that out of your head. I didnt vote for McCain either.....I did vote though.



[edit on 16-3-2009 by gimme_some_truth]



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by Valhall
The OP should not change his title.


Ditto.

It should NOT be changed.

Obama people crack me up. :shk:

[edit on 16-3-2009 by loam]



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by disgustedbyhumanity
Obama does not want the vets to pay. That is a pure misstatement. What Obama wants is if they also have private insurance that the insurance pays. This by no means says that Obama wants veterens to pay for their own care. Doesn'tmatter to me as i will even pay it in taxes or in insurance premiums. Either way we pay and both ways the vets get their treatment. Health insurance industry should be pissed but i don't care because they have ripped us off forever.

Anothe rpoint is that tehs evets will probably get better care in the private system anyways. Which by the way is the way Obama wants to keep it. He just wants the risk spread over allcitizens as a group which will lower premiums.

The OP should change his title and clatify that it is insuranc companies and not the veterans that have to pay.


But the veterans will wind up paying, in higher premiums, deductables, and maxed out insurance plans, after which their families will have no insurance coverage. What about those veterans 100% disabled and unable to work? They rely 100 percent on the VA for their medical coverage, will Obama make them pay out of pocket since they don't have insurance? This plan is ridiculous and an insult to all who have served and are currently serving.



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by gimme_some_truth


[edit on 16-3-2009 by gimme_some_truth]


If your feet and your eyes got farkled up defending your country, then your country should assist in your medical needs. If they didn't, you're like the rest of us who have to work and pay for our insurance premiums either in part or whole, burn up our lifetime maximum benefits, and pay our co-pays.

Also, if you didn't get bad feet and eyes in defense of the country and you want a free hand out...stick around, the veteran's benefits stolen from them will probably come to you. The rest of us will pay for them, but we'll be pretty pissed off at the way our funds are being spent.



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 08:04 PM
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Originally posted by disgustedbyhumanity
Obama does not want the vets to pay. That is a pure misstatement. What Obama wants is if they also have private insurance that the insurance pays. This by no means says that Obama wants veterens to pay for their own care. Doesn'tmatter to me as i will even pay it in taxes or in insurance premiums. Either way we pay and both ways the vets get their treatment. Health insurance industry should be pissed but i don't care because they have ripped us off forever.

Anothe rpoint is that tehs evets will probably get better care in the private system anyways. Which by the way is the way Obama wants to keep it. He just wants the risk spread over allcitizens as a group which will lower premiums.

The OP should change his title and clatify that it is insuranc companies and not the veterans that have to pay.


You didn't read the article did you? This might explain it for you.


The Legion argues that, depending on the severity of the medical conditions involved, maximum insurance coverage limits could be reached through treatment of the veteran's condition alone. That would leave the rest of the family without health care benefits. The Legion also points out that many health insurance companies require deductibles to be paid before any benefits are covered. Additionally, the Legion is concerned that private insurance premiums would be elevated to cover service-connected disabled veterans and their families, especially if the veterans are self-employed or employed in small businesses unable to negotiate more favorable across-the-board insurance policy pricing. The American Legion also believes that some employers, especially small businesses, would be reluctant to hire veterans with service-connected disabilities due to the negative impact their employment might have on obtaining and financing company health care benefits.


As far as getting better care in the private industry, under the Obama plan they will still be going to the VA for care. The issue is who's paying for it.

[edit on 16/3/2009 by Iamonlyhuman]



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by Valhall
If your feet and your eyes got farkled up defending your country, then your country should assist in your medical needs. If they didn't, you're like the rest of us who have to work and pay for our insurance premiums either in part or whole, burn up our lifetime maximum benefits, and pay our co-pays.


(emphasis supplied)

Actually, isn't that the point?

Medical benefits are PAID to our soldiers as part of the remuneration they receive for their service-- whether they get 'farkled' or not.

Unlike how some perceive this, health care for our military is NOTHING like a handout.

Just sayin'


[edit on 16-3-2009 by loam]



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 08:07 PM
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I am disgustedbyyou and your statement.

These Vets should never have to pay a dime to anyone. Especially an Insurance company. Whom did you have in mind? AIG?

I hope the dumb ass really does this. He will find himself SOL in short time.

I am a Vet and a VFW member. I was not injured, but I'll fight for my brothers that were and will.



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by loam


Unlike how some perceive this, health care for our military is NOTHING like a handout.

Just sayin'


[edit on 16-3-2009 by loam]


Exactly, loam. They have earned this pay. They have paid their premium, their copay, and their lifetime limit increase.

They've paid up....no hand outs required.



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 08:10 PM
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oooohhhh... I just can't wait to hear what the current military membership has to say about this. Fine Commander In Chief there. Supporting the troops... yeah uh huh.


I'm just getting madder and madder...



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by disgustedbyhumanity
Obama does not want the vets to pay. That is a pure misstatement. What Obama wants is if they also have private insurance that the insurance pays. This by no means says that Obama wants veterens to pay for their own care. Doesn'tmatter to me as i will even pay it in taxes or in insurance premiums. Either way we pay and both ways the vets get their treatment. Health insurance industry should be pissed but i don't care because they have ripped us off forever.

Anothe rpoint is that tehs evets will probably get better care in the private system anyways. Which by the way is the way Obama wants to keep it. He just wants the risk spread over allcitizens as a group which will lower premiums.

The OP should change his title and clatify that it is insuranc companies and not the veterans that have to pay.


You didn't read the article did you? This might explain it for you.


The Legion argues that, depending on the severity of the medical conditions involved, maximum insurance coverage limits could be reached through treatment of the veteran's condition alone. That would leave the rest of the family without health care benefits. The Legion also points out that many health insurance companies require deductibles to be paid before any benefits are covered. Additionally, the Legion is concerned that private insurance premiums would be elevated to cover service-connected disabled veterans and their families, especially if the veterans are self-employed or employed in small businesses unable to negotiate more favorable across-the-board insurance policy pricing. The American Legion also believes that some employers, especially small businesses, would be reluctant to hire veterans with service-connected disabilities due to the negative impact their employment might have on obtaining and financing company health care benefits.


As far as getting better care in the private industry, under the Obama plan they will still be going to the VA for care. The issue is who's paying for it.



[edit on 16/3/2009 by Iamonlyhuman]

[edit on 16/3/2009 by Iamonlyhuman]



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 08:13 PM
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Here, for all the people that agree with Obama, and or don't think Vets deserve free medical after they serve, I've got another angle for you.

P$ss Off! You want to protect yourselves? Go ahead!

We can easily give you your wish. No more troops.

Hope you have brushed up on Russian and Chinese.

How is your Arabic?

How long before we would be over run by someone.

I would give it less than a week.



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