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Each UK job 'chased by 10 people'

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posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 04:10 PM
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Each UK job 'chased by 10 people'


news.bbc.co.uk

There is an average of 10 jobseekers for every vacancy advertised in UK jobcentres, the TUC has warned.

The trade union body said the ratio - which applies to unemployed people who are claiming jobseeker allowance - had more than doubled over the past year.

The TUC said that while 10 unemployed people were chasing every advertised job in January of 2009, a year earlier it was only four per vacancy.

In 25 council areas there were now more than 20 people per job, it added.
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posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 04:10 PM
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So, just where will the rollercoaster come to rest?

Are we going back to the Thatcher years and see 3 million unemployed?
Is it going to get as bad as some UN agency suggests with 50 million worldwide unemployed?


JOBSEEKERS PER VACANCY
Isle of Wight - 60
Western Isles - 44
Blaenau Gwent - 42
Rhondda, Cynon, Taff - 36
Hackney - 36
Lewisham - 34
Argyll & Bute - 31
Greenwich - 30
Lambeth - 29
South Tyneside - 28


This is, of course, just a study and may not reflect the actual numbers. We are all aware of how the 'news' is dumbed down so as things dont sound as bad as they really are.

But from my own personal point of view, it might actually be possible that these figures are being manipulated to do more than make us worry.

For example, today I ventured into town seeking work. The job centre itself had very little. The job agencies seemed to have a bit more available. I might even be starting a new job in the next few days ... just waiting for a phone call.. and to top it off, I was passed a phone number for a company roughly 250 miles away from me who recruit staff in my area.. I gave them a ring this morning too and have an interview with them next week.

So what is really going on? Why are figures seemingly only being taken from jobcentre job availability? Why are we measuring unemployment like that?

Are too many people afraid of job agencies? Is it that most dont want to work in a factory or push a broom down a street?


The TUC said it had come to its figures by analysing official data.

The Office for National Statistics is now expected to say on Wednesday that UK unemployment went above two million


Official data? Statistics office?

Does anyone have any idea what is really going on?


news.bbc.co.uk
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posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 04:17 PM
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Well, I'm not sure whats going on in the UK with unemployment but I am willing to bet that unemployment will be worse in other nations that it will be/is in the UK.



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 04:18 PM
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That's it? Just 20? I get told that over 200 people respond with their resume's to ad's that I've luckily had interviews for. One job had over 400 resume's.


Tela



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 04:25 PM
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It really depends on where you are and the jobs going. My employer is actually recruiting and we're finding it hard to fill jobs that pay £35k+!! We're even on course to make the biggest profit in years and show BT how it's done


Other sectors are floundering though, it really does depend on what industry your in and the area you live as to wether your going to face any employment problems or not.



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 04:36 PM
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I do think jobs maybe not be as plentiful but we all know the PTB use the media to minipulate the masses. We KNOW D. Rockefeller wants to panic the masses into accepting World government.

I am in the USA and our small business is doing well and with luck my hubby will have a new job soon.



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 04:47 PM
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I too am unemployed and frequenting my job centre, they are less than useless, just ask me what I've done to look for work and sign me off.

I think that the various mandatory courses you are sent to by the job centre actually take you from being 'unemployed' to 'in training', I think this is how they manage numbers, although that is just a personal theory.

One of these that I have attended is TNG, it is pointless. You have to be there from 9-4 and you...look for jobs, All day...and there is twice, maybe three times as many people than computers. You are there for thirteen weeks, some of the other courses last from 26-32, although I don't know what these are for. These are government funded programs.

I could only imagine how many people go through here a year, but I think it is definitely used to 'alleviate' the statistics.

EMM

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That's it? Just 20? I get told that over 200 people respond with their resume's to ad's that I've luckily had interviews for. One job had over 400 resume's.


I think 20 is an average, more people will be going for low-mid waged jobs than maybe very low-low, not to mention the UK's population is much smaller than Americas.

EMM

[edit on 16-3-2009 by ElectroMagnetic Multivers]



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 04:57 PM
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These Jobcentre vacancies is no reflection on the current positions available throughout the country. It is just scaremongering. How many physicist positions are filled at job centres? I know that's an exaggeration but it highlights that most jobs requiring skills and qualifications are not advertised in these places.

What the reduction in vacancies suggests is that people are not changing jobs and everyone is tightening their belts. A slight contraction in the economy means new jobs are not created amongst the low paid first.

Except for the refusal to lend money by the banks, the economy was fundamentally sound, oil cheap and the cost of goods and services low. We are at a critical moment and if the financial industry does not start lending, the economy will contract and we will head into a severe recession. They are basically hoarding cash and with a bit of quantum easing by governments, they will have the choice of spreading the money about or have it eaten by inflation. The ball will be in their court.



[edit on 053131p://pm3122 by masonwatcher]



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by stumason
It really depends on where you are and the jobs going. My employer is actually recruiting and we're finding it hard to fill jobs that pay £35k+!! We're even on course to make the biggest profit in years and show BT how it's done


Giv us a job mate! Go on, giv us a job! Go on!


oops! forgot to add a second line.

[edit on 053131p://pm3103 by masonwatcher]



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 05:03 PM
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I too am unemployed and frequenting my job centre, they are less than useless, just ask me what I've done to look for work and sign me off.


Where are you based and what do you do? If you live in London I might be able to point you in the right direction? I deal with quite few companies and local authorities.



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by masonwatcher
reply to post by Extralien
 


These Jobcentre vacancies is no reflection on the current positions available throughout the country. It is just scaremongering.



That's my point exactly.

There are so many jobless that would never dream of using a job centre. They use other methods of getting employed.

Specialists like brain surgeons or lawyers dont walk into the local dol office. They usually use things like the Financial Times etc.
So these numbers that have been given do not give an accurate look at the actual picture.

We hear how X company is about to or has got rid of XXX amount of staff but we dont hear how many lawyers have been made redundant nationally or how many other 'high earners' lose their jobs.

are they immune from being a statistic?



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 08:47 PM
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These figures do not really count for much when you consider that a majority of jobs are not advertised on the jobcentre website.

Certainly in my field of work, little to nothing is advertised there.

These figures are skewed.



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 09:09 PM
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Those figures aren't accurate. There's over 700,000 vacancies currently available via Job Centre Plus, the claimant count is just under 2 million for JSA. Not brilliant, more like 3 people for each job, but as other contributors have pointed out many more jobs are available through agencies, advertised locally or through good old word of mouth.

Someone mentioned the magical 3 million figure, that number we were all accustomed to as a measure of life in Thatcher's Britain.

The unemployment count is probably well over three million by now. Unemployment Benefit was paid for 12 months under Thatcher, it's replacement Jobseeker's Allowance (Cont) is only paid for 6 months. Do the math.



posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by stumason
It really depends on where you are and the jobs going. My employer is actually recruiting and we're finding it hard to fill jobs that pay £35k+!!


Ditto over here:




US firm to close branch due to lack of employees

A Florida-based firm will soon close one of its North Dakota offices for a reason that seems unfathomable during the deepening US recession: it can't find enough employees to hire.



So tell folks to come on over.

Non-citizens are probably welcome, but tell them to come through our southern boarder. I hear it's like Swiss cheese.





posted on Mar, 16 2009 @ 11:34 PM
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JSA doesn't have a time limit. You will receive it as long as you are unemployed. After 6 months you might be shifted onto a different scheme, but you will still get your money.



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