Best for your money water purifier?

I love Berkey Filters! I haven't tried the Katadyn to be fair though. I've heard decent things. However, I'm a Berkey customer for life just because I've had such great experiences with it.

[edit on 9-4-2009 by FreedomRock]

Sand = free
Charcoal = free
Boiling = free

Well, I lie... It cost's your time and effort to put together. If you can do it yourself, then don't waste your money on something that will need to be bought again. Water purifiers last only so long before the filter is useless, if sitX hits you could have all the money in the world to buy a new one and you won't be able to. Rely on yourself and what nature provides and you can do anything you want.

I have a Berkey at home. I like it because I can clean the filters and I can just dump a few gallons of dirty water into it and in a little time I have gallons of clean water.

For travel/camping/bugging out I have an MSR MiniWorks. The plus is that it is field serviceable meaning I can scrape the crap off the filter and just keep using it over and over. It will keep working if all the hoses and connections get damaged. I think some branches of the military use them because of their field serviceable design. The negatives are that pumping can be a royal pain though it will grab you water from all sorts of awful nasty puddles and pools. I used it on Mt. Washington to get some water from a collected clump of slime. Something else to keep in mind is that the filter is ceramic so a sudden shock could crack or smash the filter. Replacements are like $60. I'm not gentile with it and havent broken one yet.

There's always filling a sock with sand, clay and pebbles and doing it that way. Or just filling a clear bottle with water and leaving to bake on a rock in the Sunlight for 12 hours. Or boiling it for 5 minutes.

Depends on how much water you need, what you have on hand and how fast you need it.

Get a filter for convenience but learn to filter for the long haul cause you never know.

It's like carrying a lighter is all good until it busts so you better learn at least one way to start a fire by hand.

For your BOB I would recommend having a bottle of Iodine tablets for quick on the spot filtration. They are lightweight and travel well. These tablets are a short term solution and should be used only until you can set up a better solution.

As other have said, a Katadyn filter is great to have. We keep a katadyn pump in our families survival kit. It can produce a good amount of filtered water with one filter. katadyn also makes bottle filters that you can use as well. Fill the bottle and it will purify it.

The best long term solution in my opinion is to use an activated charcoal filter, and then boil the water. Boiling water will kill most (if not all) microorganisms in the water. The big ones to avoid are Giardia and Cryptosporidium. Boiling water will kill these, and the charcoal filtering will remove chemicals and heavy metals.

In higher elevations, you may make the use of a pressure cooker to boil the water, as the boiling point is lower and it takes longer.

Chlorine purification is another method, but again I would only use it short term until you have a properly setup activated charcoal and boiling system.


-xmad

Wouldn't it be best to distill your water? I mean, what good is filtered radioactive water? I'm pretty certain that distilling water removes everything, including microscopic radioactive particles..

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its called google.............

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Might be a cheapy solar still like this.

Cup in Jar solar still

Might be a cheaper one, but it be hard pressed.

Slow sand filter is pretty cheap, but not portable.

Originally posted by Divinorumus

Originally posted by greshnik
search for "solar distillers". Nothing is better than the distilled water.

Not true. Distilled water can make you unhealthy, it can leech minerals from your body. Same with rain water. You do not want to drink either for any extended amount of time.

I guess all those ppl with rainwater catchment around the world
are dying in droves.

Rainwater harvesting - used for centuries

Provide some kind of link to back up your claim of dying from drinking
filtered rainwater.

As for dying from drinking distilled water then I guess all the ppl on
the nuclear subs are dead too.

Fleet Submarines distill water for drinking

It is amazing the amount of BS that gets pedaled around here as truth.

Originally posted by Anjaba
Wouldn't it be best to distill your water? I mean, what good is filtered radioactive water? I'm pretty certain that distilling water removes everything, including microscopic radioactive particles..

The water itself does not become radioactive, but the tiny particles
in it do.

Distilling is good, but there is a gotcha over time.

The container will become more and more "hot" over time,
and the residue in the bottom will be as well.

Something to consider, and the fact that the dust particles you
may be breathing in are radioactive too.

Post nuclear war is a VERY ugly and dangerous world.

Half life on some of the common elements will be 27 years,
like Strontium-90.

Some of the more exotic will be much longer.

Detectors and breathing thru cloth, etc etc will be needed.

It can enter the food chain too, so you will want to grow your
veggies in containers, and keep contaminants out.

Iodine-131 can end up in cow's milk, etc etc.

Its a pretty ugly scenario and will require tedious amounts of caution.

The LifeStraw is wonderful but not necessarily for all in North America wher giardia runs rmapant. Giardia is a nasty intestinal disease. Most filters available do not effectively remove the giardia as the giardia needs a micron filter of .1 micron. Most filters only have a .3 or a .2 at best. Some are silver impregnated and have a carbon filter addition which may help but not gauruntee removing all giardia. Do some more research before deciding on a filter. I will not bash any particular filter or promote one over another. I will post information though to make sure you know the information I have found out about before you run into the woods and walk out with intestinal problems.

LifeStraw Filter Specs

filters particles from 125 micron down to minimal 15 micron

CDC Factsheet on giardia

Absolute pore size of 1 micron or smaller
(with or without NSF testing)

More info on giardia

Where is giardiasis found?

The Giardia parasite is found in every region of the United States and throughout the world. Giardiasis occurs often in mountainous areas where water supplies from lakes, ponds, or streams have become contaminated with animal droppings or human waste.

Originally posted by defcon5
Katadyn is hands down the best water filter ever made.
Just a pocket filter will last you 13K gallons of water. That is a gallon a day for the next 35 years, on one filter if its properly maintained. Two filters will last you pretty much your entire lifetime. They are rugged, and will stand years of abuse, but they are pricey. You certainly don't want to skimp on a water filter and end up with a piece of junk that breaks after 5 uses. They are used by professional military, aid, and rescue workers around the world. Make sure you get the one with the ceramic, silver infused, filter though.

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I checked this out, looks like a good deal. Like you said, not exactly cheap, but you get what you pay for! Thanks for the suggestion!

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Breathing through a cloth will do very little to protect you from radiation poisoning. It would only filter out alpha and beta particles both of which do not last long anyway (especially the alpha particles they only last a few seconds in air so are unlikely to harm you unless you are actually sitting on a radioactive substance), and even then it would not filter them all out.

Also for the case of the submarines although the term distilled is used its not the same as what Divinorumus is implying. They have the facts right in that properly distilled water (meaning laboratory quality) will harm your health is you drink it instead of normal water over an extended period of time and for the reasons given. In the case of the submarines water it was being filtered mainly for salt but also for other toxins there would have still been minerals in the water, easily enough to stop the water from leeching off the body.

-Cauch1