Originally posted by Aermacchi
Looks like we are getting closer to finding out just where Mr Obama was actually born.

Closer to what exactly? As far as I can see it the same reasons brought forward by berg and Keyes are now been reviewed (again) and this case will be closed due to lack of evidence and constitutional standing, same as the others as its no different... Close to what??

Chief Justice Scalia has agreed to give the eligibilty case a full hearing and now Chief Justice Roberts has also agreed.

...and I doubt once he shuts down this case in the same way the other lawsuits you folks will be satisfied... heck nothing will satisfy the fringe, they will hate regardless. This isnt about the birth certificate in the real sense.

The arguement that won't go away. ATS Member "Southern Guardian" has said to me on more than one occasion we have no proof we have no proof, when the fact is YOU got no proof and the burden may still "lie" with Obama after all as he has never given proof prima facie when such proof exists.

Im flattered you mentioned me... really... but there are other members as well. Bit unfair to give me all the attention. The burden of proof constitutionally, by law and by evidence that he was born in Kenya lies on the fringe, so unless you have proof, a camera from 63' would be great! you have nothing to demand of the president... and you never will.

The Dept of Health in Hawaii never has given the answser for what it says on the Vaulted BC

Fukino said she has “personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.

as to where he was born and when the question was asked Fukino just snubbed the news journalist's and walked away

Obama has never answered the question verbally.

I have always said for years now that the only way we will EVER fix this country is when WE the people fix it and it won't take a civil war to do it.

Originally posted by sueloujo
reply to post by Southern Guardian

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I think you just like the word "fringe" and don't really care whether or not obama is elligable or not.

I hope this case gets heard and the truth comes out.

I think id rather believe the confirmation from the Hawaii state government, state health officials and the fact none of his opponents or the prior administration found anything....

as oppose to a bunch of rightwingers who also think Obamas a muslim, the anti christ and gay.

Dear Kent,

Your many emails about the President, his lies and especially your assertions regarding his manipulating us into war, seem to have been confirmed. Many others have also felt this way but few have been as compelling or as passionate an appeal for hearings as you have been. I have always been impressed with your sense of Justice and your intelligence regarding issues facing our Nation so I kept you in mind to write you after I got this important news.

Last night, significant news broke that directly impacts our push for Impeachment Hearings and a possible Inherent Contempt charge for Bush Administration officials such as Karl Rove:

Former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan has revealed to us damaging testimony the whole world will come to know about in an upcoming book he has written about issues regarding:

• Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, and Vice President Cheney lied about their role in revealing the identity of Valerie Plame Wilson – actions easily amounting to obstruction of Justice.

McClellan also admitted that:

• There was a coordinated effort within the Bush Administration to use propaganda to pump up the case for the Iraq war and hide the projected costs of the war from the public and Congress. I have a bad feeling about that as you know I think we are in for a shock when we see what the real costs are.

Scott McClellan will be called to testify under oath before the House Judiciary Committee to tell Congress and the American people everything he knows about this massive effort by the White House to lie to us and deceive this nation into war and bankrupt our economy putting us further and further in debt with China. This does not bode well when both China and the United States are negotiating on the price of oil. We are obligated by our debt to take a back seat to China if they were to complicate things further. We have already seen how the Saudis ignore the President when he asked them to lower the price of oil per barrel while China got the reduction they asked for.

The President's time in office is short but the after effects of his crimes in office in addition to those we have yet to discover will last long after his eight years in office and beyond.

Last week, a subpoena was issued for Karl Rove to testify before the Judiciary Committee. It appears he will take every legal action to block this subpoena. The truth is that Congress has the right – and obligation – to hold him accountable now - not months or years from now. It is long past time to pass Inherent Contempt and bring Rove, Libby and others before Congress.

We simply cannot ignore these recent developments, nor should we postpone serious inquiry until after the next election. Kent I must ask your help in getting as many emails and letters to me as possible including the best you can author. All of your letters and emails are read and appreciated but this one has got to be hit out of the park and I am going to need all the help I can get. Your last email you said: "If it is important to me it should be important to you". Well I am saying, what is important to you, IS important to me. Your commitment to accountability for the Bush/Cheney Administration, in addition to the support of 230,000 other Americans who have inspired and motivated me in my effort to hold impeachment hearings for Vice President Dick Cheney and Inherent Contempt for Rove and others. During the past months I have been a tireless and dogged advocate of this vitally important cause.

Many others have written me, asking for an update on where we stand with regards to impeachment hearings. I know most of them believe - as you and I do - that impeachment hearings for Vice President Cheney – are not only justified, but that it is our constitutional obligation to look into the serious allegations of wrongdoing that have been raised from this administrations involvement in 911 where more and more incriminating evidence has come fourth. This is especially true based on the newest revelations from Scott McClellan. We have had all our questions and subpoenas virtually ignored, documents requested suddenly become classified information protected under national security.

This President has evaded us ducking questions we know he must have answers to and most likely has some questionable if not criminal involvment. I believe just as you do that it is the duty of Congress to pursue impeachment whenever there's significant evidence of wrongdoing, be it by Republicans or Democrats, regardless of the timing of elections or the current political environment. Like you, many others have written me demanding that I deliver hearings for impeachment. As hard as I have been fighting for this cause, I cannot make impeachment happen by myself. What I can do, and what I have been doing at every turn, is trying to communicate two simple messages to my colleagues:

• the serious allegations of wrongdoing and the clear-cut rationale for impeachment hearings;and

• the fact that the public will support our efforts when Congress boldly acts on the side of justice and accountability.

Unfortunately, to date, these arguments have not been enough to convince even a majority of the liberal and progressive Members of Congress to support impeachment hearings. In addition, the leadership of the Democratic Party in Congress genuinely feels that pursuing impeachment will jeopardize our congressional agenda and threaten gains in the November elections. Although I genuinely disagree with this view, to date I have been unable to convince them to change this policy.

I understand the challenges that we are up against, and I recognize the odds that we face. Nevertheless, I will remain unyielding and insist Justice will prevail and the rule of law must be restrored to its previous place in our Constitutions Bill of Rights. This new evidence from Scott McClellan could be the tipping point – but we must move quickly. I will use the McClellan admissions to help convince my colleagues that we must hold impeachment hearings.

Regardless, I will continue to fight for progressive values and our Constitution. I will do everything I can to pursue accountability for criminal actions taken by this Administration and this Vice President. I will be a furious opponent to any expansion of this misguided war, and I will fight against the use of torture by our government and to restore and protect our civil liberties here at home.

Most of all, I will continue my efforts to convince my fellow members of Congress and voters, that we should not be a party of passivity - but that we succeed when we present the public with stark choices that are based on the guarantees in our Constitution, and not on the politics of the moment.

I will continue - at every pass - to call for impeachment and accountability. While I wish more of my colleagues supported our movement, we must not let our discouragement lead to apathy and distraction in this important election year when we must break free from eight long years of illegalities, corporate handouts, and a tragic and devastating war.

We should not end the calls for impeachment. I will push against the crimes of the Bush Administration whenever I am provided the opportunity. I will use my role on the Judiciary Committee to take on Administration officials – like I have done with Condoleezza Rice, Attorney Generals Gonzalez and Mukasey, and FBI Director Mueller.

I have not given up on you and your fight is our fight to hold this Administration accountable. As always Kent, I am grateful for your efforts, emails, patriotism and support. I'll continue to keep you informed and part of the conversation with others on this matter.

Sincerely,

Congressman Robert Wexler

Fukino has confirmed numerous times of Obamas birth in Hawaii two years after it became a state. Despite this the fringers continue to harass him and accuse him of being implicated in some conspiracy (yes everything is a conspiracy the fringe the rightie is not power) so I really dont blame him for snubbing folks off. Good on him in my opinion.

Obama needs not answer to a fringers who also believe him to be a muslim, the anti-christ and an elitist. Why on earth would he answer to folks who will hate him and have some conspiracy about him regardless? .

If the hateful fringe is feeling the hurt from being snubbed off its their problem for being hateful in the first place.

You and your fringer buddies are the ones who are continuing to divide the country with your constant hatred and discrimmination to those who have a different opinion or view to you. Fixing aint your thing in a sense.

Thanks for again getting your information off another fringer site... dont know why your scared about actually looking at other more non-partisan ideological websites but maybe you just prefer to go onto sites that tell you what you want to hear. By the way WND actually confirmed the authenticity of Obamas BC and his birth on US soil as well... they are confused aint they?

The question here is not what the supreme judge will do but as to whether the fringers will continue their assualt and hatred when he concludes the case holds litte to nothing as well.