I agree that guns should be owned by intelligent, common sense individuals for the purpose of protecting themselves from their government as the Constitution originally intented.

However the statement that guns save lives is a little silly. Guns were created with the intent to kill. As a better tool of war, where the point is to kill more guys on the other side than your guys on this side.

Guns kill people. People using guns for their INTENTED purpose in times of necessity save other people.

~Keeper

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
I agree that guns should be owned by intelligent, common sense individuals for the purpose of protecting themselves from their government as the Constitution originally intented.

However the statement that guns save lives is a little silly. Guns were created with the intent to kill. As a better tool of war, where the point is to kill more guys on the other side than your guys on this side.

Guns kill people. People using guns for their INTENTED purpose in times of necessity save other people.

~Keeper

i agree

I lol'd so hard.

Especially when he turned it around on them and took the guy's camera.

On the other hand though, it wouldn't have been so funny if he didn't have the gun and the rednecks split his head open right in front of his wife.

I hear what your saying, I obviously (I hope) didn't mean to imply that a guns raison d'etre was to somehow miraculously heal people. But if you've watched the video, a gun is the only thing that prevents this guys skull from getting busted open. No one gets shot, no one gets killed, precisely because of the reasonable and responsible use of a firearm. Watch the entire video. Tell me what you think the outcome would have been if no guns were involved.

I love that video and have gotten a good laugh out of it.
If the guy didn't have a gun those 2 rednecks would have beat the hell out of him.
Who knows what they would have done to the girl.
They got what was coming to them.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
However the statement that guns save lives is a little silly. Guns were created with the intent to kill. As a better tool of war, where the point is to kill more guys on the other side than your guys on this side.

~Keeper

Guns do save lives. They save them when someone takes the responsibility to kill a person who would do harm or has harmed without reason.

If guns made a western society safer, then the US should be safer than the UK who has some bloody awefully restricive and ineffective gun laws., Over the last five years an average of 200 people a year dies in the UK, in a population of 60 million people. The wonderful US of H has a population FIVE and a bit times great than the UK at 320 million people. according if its safer it should have a gun casualty rate of five times the UKs figure of 200 IE a 1000 dead a year. But its losing over 30,000 of its citizens to gun violence a year, in fact its lost over 149,000 in the last five and a half years.

Guns dont make people safer thats just a rather shallow excuse for gun owners to keep their guns at home, which in a free nation you should be able to do. The 30,000 deaths is just the price most americans are willing to pay each year to stay armed in case the British come back. ( thats what the original document was meant to cover, an armed militia to keep us Brits out, hardly likely 300 years later)

The Right to Keep and Bare arms is simply a quirk of history that Americans should be allowed to uphold as a cultural foundation, but guns do not save lives, if they do then pencils cause bad spelling.

Originally posted by Northern Raider
If guns made a western society safer, then the US should be safer than the UK who has some bloody awefully restricive and ineffective gun laws., Over the last five years an average of 200 people a year dies in the UK, in a population of 60 million people. The wonderful US of H has a population FIVE and a bit times great than the UK at 320 million people. according if its safer it should have a gun casualty rate of five times the UKs figure of 200 IE a 1000 dead a year. But its losing over 30,000 of its citizens to gun violence a year, in fact its lost over 149,000 in the last five and a half years.

Guns dont make people safer thats just a rather shallow excuse for gun owners to keep their guns at home, which in a free nation you should be able to do. The 30,000 deaths is just the price most americans are willing to pay each year to stay armed in case the British come back. ( thats what the original document was meant to cover, an armed militia to keep us Brits out, hardly likely 300 years later)

The Right to Keep and Bare arms is simply a quirk of history that Americans should be allowed to uphold as a cultural foundation, but guns do not save lives, if they do then pencils cause bad spelling.

And how many of those, do you suppose, is due to influx of drug gangs from Mexico. Guns are a good deterrent for crime. Many of those gun deaths happen where there is a high population of illegals.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
But GUNS themselves have never saved anybody, it's the USE of them by PEOPLE that either save or destroy lives.

If we didn't have guns we'd be hitting eachother with sticks, it still would not be the stick saving lives it would be the guy wielding the stick fighting off his attacker that saves the life.

Yes, your absolutely right. Why is it people insist on taking every statement so literally? Would it make you happy if I retitled this thread to "Proof that people can use guns to save lives"? The point is that the prohibition on the concealed carry of firearms makes no one but the criminally minded safer. We cannot eliminate every single gun (or stick or knife or folding chair) on the planet. Allowing law abiding people to carry what only makes them equal to those that would do them harm is not an unreasonable thing to expect is it?

I really enjoyed this video and felt the adrenalin slowly building as it played out. It was nice to see a firearm being used to peacefully end a potentially lethal situation, and all without being discharged. A testament to gun self protection when it really is needed. Star 4 u.