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Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
If you look at it from a purely neutral standpoint it is no different than how we treat the animals around us. Particularly when we want to learn something about them. Humancentrism wants to call it evil, but is it really? I rather doubt it, otherwise we would most likely already would have been wiped out.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by Salt of the Earth
It's offensive and tasteless on several levels and you should feel some element of shame for your ability to believe such things and then to actively try and spread them.
Originally posted by Kandinsky
reply to post by Salt of the Earth
I profoundly disagree with your certainties. What you regard as bald fact, I regard as minor possibilities and improbabilities. My world-view is very different from yours. If we walked side by side down the same busy city street our experiences would be unrecognizable to each other.
I once entered into a friendly discussion with another member who shared your views (including the alien bases eating babies), it was a waste of each others time. He still thinks that aliens are eating humans in a base beneath New York. I understand *how* you view the world, I struggle to comprehend how you arrived there. Although I hold the view that the beliefs you share are dangerous, I would fight for your right to keep them on ATS.
[edit on 21-3-2009 by Kandinsky]
Originally posted by mystiq
I had never connected the dots on my sitings of both a grey or the crafts, and actual memories. In fact I believe I was programmed not to until a certain time.
Bill Holden was asked if he feared them, and replied at no time did he fear any of the encounters, he looked forward to them. I myself do not know if my initial reaction was one of fear, but I do know it soon became on of warmth and love when I was a child. In fact in one of my memories I didn't want to return.
Originally posted by mystiq
Its amazing that there is a huge disinfo campaign concerning something that is so incredible and inspiring as the cosmic visitors who by the way are working to change things on this planet, because they are concerned for both it and us.
There is a very bad group of bloodlines ruling this planet, and have done so for countless years, with unending sorrows and traumas for people, and these same bloodlines are running this planet into the ground.
Originally posted by mystiq
And the religion you are bringing up is a part of the problems we are having here and a part of the slave race we've been created to be, divided and conquered and fighting their wars. Our bloodlines have ties to renegade ets.
Originally posted by mystiq
I am not looking at this from one side, and am so happy to know there are better planets and worlds where babies don't even cry, who live in moneyless societies where no one is hungry, all are provided for, and roads don't even scar the surface of the well cared for planet. Whatever goes down here on earth, and I'm hoping for positive turning point to occur due to our galactic watchers and friends. However, nonetheless, in or out of body, I'm going home.
Originally posted by mystiq
You're the one who is not applying logic. I've had many people try to demonize the ets, both greys and nordics I've experienced, and in the end, I'm running with my heart, and the mission they've given me, and thats to promote the moneyless resource society and cooperative compassion between people so that we may evolve...
Originally posted by mystiq
There is more than one side to the experiences people have had and are sharing. You should actually open your eyes.
Originally posted by mystiq
I'm not programmed to believe there are better planets out there, I know there are. There are many experiencers here on ats alone by the way. This thread is amazing:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I think your belief in aliens flying here from planets in the cosmos are dangerous and will lead to the NWO and the extermination of most of the people living on the planet by deluded people such as yourself who think you are linking up to some super beings who want to help you leap ahead in your evolution to become a superman.
You have no proof for what you say, and I have much proof. Your speculations are based on wishful thinking. Mine are based on what has been observed and documented.
You don't agree that DUMBs exist or that they live underground, many of them, or that abductions of millions of children are taking place not only by the greys but by the CPS and government pedophile rings, the CIA, Mossad, other Luciferians who need children for their diabolical plans. Children are also stolen from hospitals, parents told their children are dead when they are not dead.
Have you ever listened to Ted Gunderson's testimony? You really think the world is sweetness and light and that science is capable of doing what you say? You are the one who is into magical thinking, very dangerous, very destructive, and it will end up killing a lot of people.
Typical New Age Zionist Nazi Superman belief. Pure crap. Pseudoscience. Materialism, believing this is all there is, that matter is self-existant, not created, that dead matter is capable of forming itself into life forms and infusing life into itself. Pure pseudoscience going against all the known laws of science, of physics, that we see. Alchemy, witchcraft, and pure unmitigated crap.
Originally posted by mystiq
I wasn't raped by ets, though I did have 2 episodes of missing cylces that lasted 2 1/2 months each. Their hybrid program does exist. Nordics have this as well.
However, I have never stated that all ets are good. Look at our leaders, they work for an ancient set of renegades. I have pointed out that all ets are not evil however. Only the renegades are, and there is a huge galactic presence involved with this planet, as earth and its people is one of many projects ets have conducted. We were meant to evolve peacefully, but instead have allowed evil ruthless warmonglers to control and manipulate us. Even in democratic countries we keep choosing between the small group of bloodlines they offer and vote in psychos, and thus are co-conspirators. What we have allowed done to earth and its people to benefit just the few is outrageous. If we were to be put somewhere else, I doubt we will be given such a wonderful responsibility as this jewel planet was.
As to going home, yeah thats been showed me for some time. Though there's work to be done here, so don't know if its in this body or out. And really don't care.
The point is, that only discussing the most negative stories or demonizing ets in a religious way is not exactly being open minded. I consider that to be the programming here.
[edit on 21-3-2009 by mystiq]
Originally posted by mystiq
I'm not as judgmental of something that is over our heads, and ets are truly over our heads.
Originally posted by spacecowgirl
reply to post by pikypiky
What experience have you had with aliens may I ask?