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posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 05:15 AM
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Congradulations on your 1000th post!!
I feel honored that its on this thread.
Good work




posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 05:20 AM
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Originally posted by Common Good
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Im glad you hate the way I think, because I couldnt disagree with you more on most of the things you say. I dont like people comming into my country illegally and setting up shop. You hate me for that? Great! I feel bad for you though.



You don't like people going into your country???? What about when the U.S. went into Bolivia to commoditized water? WATER???????? People were going thirsty! Look at the tag of your shirt. The chances are, it was made by a child. But, OH MY GOD these ALIEN RACES have a Wal-mart in our area!! O NO!

How did your ancestors get here?
I hope they were native and didn't come here illegally, then it would be okay for them to set up shop.


You are a funny person. Once again I don't hate you just the way you think. Sorry.



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 05:28 AM
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Originally posted by lucidclouds

Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by lucidclouds
 


Im glad you hate the way I think, because I couldnt disagree with you more on most of the things you say. I dont like people comming into my country illegally and setting up shop. You hate me for that? Great! I feel bad for you though.



You don't like people going into your country???? What about when the U.S. went into Bolivia to commoditized water? WATER???????? People were going thirsty! Look at the tag of your shirt. The chances are, it was made by a child. But, OH MY GOD these ALIEN RACES have a Wal-mart in our area!! O NO!

How did your ancestors get here?
I hope they were native and didn't come here illegally, then it would be okay for them to set up shop.


You are a funny person. Once again I don't hate you just the way you think. Sorry.


I dont like people comming into my country illegally, no I do not.
Alien Races? Why is it you always have to be racial about things?
I could give a damn if you were as white as Angel Food Cake, if you are here illegally , you are here illegally!
You seem to think that its okay for people to do this, which I have a hard time understanding cause Im not as simple as you, but I am sure you have your reasons.
My Ancestors? Hah! It alaways comes down to our ancestors doesnt it, people can never take responsibility for their own actions, all they do is blame it on the past and they are scotch free. Thats the reason our country is so Effed up right now. People still hanging onto the past.
I didnt do anything, so you need to check yourself and stop being such a smart ass.
Wait a second, I forgot, You arent an American are you? Oh S#@*. hahahahahaha. explains it all. You have no idea whats going on, just keep sitting back and act like the keyboard killah that you are.
You are the funny one sir, I laugh at your ignorance


EDIT- I am still waiting for this explanation of who "we" are. stop avoiding the question son.


[edit on 15-3-2009 by Common Good]



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 05:42 AM
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Originally posted by Common Good
[I dont like people comming into my country illegally, no I do not.
Alien Races? Why is it you always have to be racial about things?
I could give a damn if you were as white as Angel Food Cake, if you are here illegally , you are here illegally!
You seem to think that its okay for people to do this, which I have a hard time understanding cause Im not as simple as you, but I am sure you have your reasons.
My Ancestors? Hah! It alaways comes down to our ancestors doesnt it, people can never take responsibility for their own actions, all they do is blame it on the past and they are scotch free. Thats the reason our country is so Effed up right now. People still hanging onto the past.
I didnt do anything, so you need to check yourself and stop being such a smart ass.
Wait a second, I forgot, You arent an American are you? Oh S#@*. hahahahahaha. explains it all. You have no idea whats going on, just keep sitting back and act like the keyboard killah that you are.
You are the funny one sir, I laugh at your ignorance


Let me set this straight. I'm was born and raised, and still live in california. Sorry I was taught something that may be foreign to you. Its called "love." Not a romantic love but an unconditional love. I hope you feel it one day, I really do. But that may be too simple for you. "If your eye is simple your whole body will be bright."

Do you really, truly, belive this country is screwed up because Mexicans buying at walmarts? PLEASE ANSWER THAT. PLEASE? Is that the reason?



[edit on 15-3-2009 by lucidclouds]I hope you understand this from my post...I was born in raised and live in the U.S. ....I hope thats clear for you.

[edit on 15-3-2009 by lucidclouds]



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 05:48 AM
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you're kidding me right? "breeding"? a bit under the belt, don't you think? what is she, an animal? because that's what you're painting her as.

It's not about being politically correct, it's about being smart enough to see that everyone does the same stuff, whether they're mexican, white, black, asian. I can't tell you how many times some random kid of any kind of ethnic background, has ran into me while i'm at the store, and they don't apologize, you know why? Because they're kids! So you're telling me you were never a trouble maker when you were a kid? And since when is being a kid a crime?

So by following your line of reasoning, if some asian dude cuts me off on the freeway, am i to assume that all asians are jackoffs, or that they suck at driving. Or when some white dude flips me off because i'm going at the speed limit, amd i to assume that every white person is rude and disrespectful? Or if some black dude has his stereo to loud, am i to assume all black people are annoying? or if i see some mexican cholo, am i supposed to assume all mexicans and hispanics are good-for-nothing, lazy criminals? I'm kind of curious why we still adhere to old idiotic stereotypes simply due to the fact that so many of you *notice i didn't say us* are so caught up in ignorance and lack of knowledge outside of a minuscule shell you build around yourselves.

btw, i'm hispanic *but you can't tell because i'm white*. I love my country *by that i mean the U.S.*...yet i can't enjoy shopping for ethnic groceries because i'm all of a sudden some sort of gang member who's contaminating American culture?

all i can say is that with any major migration of ethnic groups into the states, whether it be the Chinese, Irish, Mexican, German or Italians, there has always been an enormous amount of opposition to their arrival, stating that there's no way they would assimilate if they had ties to their ethnic backgrounds. If that were so, why aren't we speaking Deutsch, or Italiano, or Espanol yet? These ethnic groups came over 150 years ago, yet we're still bickering about something that has proven wrong today. unbelievable.

[edit on 3/15/2009 by Daedalus24]

[edit on 3/15/2009 by Daedalus24]



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 05:58 AM
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"Do you really, truly, belive this country is screwed up because Mexicans buying at walmarts? PLEASE ANSWER THAT. PLEASE? Is that the reason? "
Did I say say that? No I didnt.

THE ILLEGALS ARE THE PROBLEM. -Common Good

Iwill though say sorry to you for saying you were UnAmerican, but you really sound like you dont care about the problem we have at all as if it doesnt effect you. Reading many of your other posts, it seems like you are a part of the problem by saying "hey its okay, come in and do whatever the hell you want, Americans dont mind".
I do have a heart, I have a bigger heart than you could possibly Imagine, I give money to the homeless everyday, I do performances for the publicFOR FREE...I give to the people as much as I can. That doesnt mean I am down for letting people walk over me, which illegals are doing to the American people, they dont give a damn about us or our laws.
Like I said, doesnt matter if you are white, black, brown, peach, wtf ever, play by the rules, or GTFO.

Note- You still havent told me who the "we" is....(for the 4th time)
answer that question for me. frankly, Im sick of asking it.

[edit on 15-3-2009 by Common Good]



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 06:02 AM
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Or you could say *cater to the Hispanic population*

Since when did illegal immigrants become synonymous with Hispanics? So by thinking the way you're thinking, those darn illegals are building Mexican food restaurants so they can have a place to eat because they're trying to Mexicanize the entire country...oh wait, is it a taco shop full of white people, which is a sight common down here in southern cal. Oh gosh, just because I'm a second generation American of Hispanic decent and i like Mexican food *as well as every kind of food, foreign or not* oh my god! that means i'm a border-hopping illegal!!! I guess everyone else i know that enjoys Mexican food is also an illegal immigrant...whether their last name is Smith, Johnson, Weiss or Anderson...damn.



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 06:09 AM
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As Geraldo Rivera put it.. "The Mexican-American people should be ashamed that they are being portrayed as illegal criminals because of those who come into this country illegally, it gives them a bad wrap".
quotes might be a little off, but thats basically what he has just stated within the last 2 days.



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 06:27 AM
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Oh come on, has he *or have you* ever been to Los Angeles? Most of those gang member "cholos" are 20 something year old males, speaking spanglish, who consider themselves to be "chicanos" which are 1st/2nd generation Americans with strong Mexican roots. So how are these illegals *which i see everyday doing landscaping, picking strawberries, and cleaning after the rest of us* violent criminals? Or is it our inability to look beyond the actions of a few misguided individuals what's really driving this negative view on illegal immigrants and Hispanic culture as a whole.

Again, it goes back to the same argument; why do people assign a label to another simply because a minute number of said ethnic group are the ones causing trouble? Isn't that plain and simple stereotyping or am I missing something?

[edit on 3/15/2009 by Daedalus24]



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 06:36 AM
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Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by lucidclouds
 


"Do you really, truly, belive this country is screwed up because Mexicans buying at walmarts? PLEASE ANSWER THAT. PLEASE? Is that the reason? "
Did I say say that? No I didnt.

THE ILLEGALS ARE THE PROBLEM. -Common Good

Iwill though say sorry to you for saying you were UnAmerican, but you really sound like you dont care about the problem we have at all as if it doesnt effect you. Reading many of your other posts, it seems like you are a part of the problem by saying "hey its okay, come in and do whatever the hell you want, Americans dont mind".
I do have a heart, I have a bigger heart than you could possibly Imagine, I give money to the homeless everyday, I do performances for the publicFOR FREE...I give to the people as much as I can. That doesnt mean I am down for letting people walk over me, which illegals are doing to the American people, they dont give a damn about us or our laws.
Like I said, doesnt matter if you are white, black, brown, peach, wtf ever, play by the rules, or GTFO.

Note- You still havent told me who the "we" is....(for the 4th time)
answer that question for me. frankly, Im sick of asking it.

[edit on 15-3-2009 by Common Good]


The problem is that the U.S. crushes people in order keep itself up and makes Americans comfortable. The reason your mad is because your not comfortable. But at least you give to African and Latin countries that are homeless. Good for you!!!!! Just don't let the U.S. find out!


O I never said Americans don't mind...It just doesn't matter. It should not be up to them.

O My God... You give money to the homeless. Your amazing. How do they feel about all of this? You have asked them, right? I have. What did they tell you?

What did riveria tell you to think???

Anti-globalization is we.

Do you think going into Bolivia to commoditized water is better than walmart? PLEASE ANSWER.



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 06:39 AM
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Originally posted by Daedalus24
reply to post by Common Good
 


Oh come on, has he *or have you* ever been to Los Angeles? Most of those gang member "cholos" are 20 something year old males, speaking spanglish, who consider themselves to be "chicanos" which are 1st/2nd generation Americans with strong Mexican roots. So how are these illegals *which i see everyday doing landscaping, picking strawberries, and cleaning after the rest of us* violent criminals? Or is it our inability to look beyond the actions of a few misguided individuals what's really driving this negative view on illegal immigrants and Hispanic culture as a whole.

Again, it goes back to the same argument; why do people assign a label to another simply because a minute number of said ethnic group are the ones causing trouble? Isn't that plain and simple stereotyping or am I missing something?

[edit on 3/15/2009 by Daedalus24]


I have been to Los Angeles many times, its my neighbor. I am in Las vegas, and its just as bad as it is out here, not sure if you been here or not but it is. I agree with you to the fact that you cant label a whole ethnic group because of the actions of some, I whole heartedly agree. I will also say this, the majroity of illegal immigrants are non-violent in nature, all they want to do is come here, work as much as they can, save up as much american denero as possible, and send it to their families back home so they can live a better life. I am completely aware of whats going on in the mexican community, I am surrounded by it. I have mexican relatives, I hear it from all angles. And I get it.

now lets take illegal immigration...nobody likes to say it because its not "pollitically correct" but the majority of illegal immigration comes from Mexico. Thats just fact, no beating around the bush for that one. So of course the majority is going to get thrown into the stereotyping.Its the name of the game and you, along with the rest of the law obiding people,
are getting the bad rap for that, and I dont think that its fair for any of you.
I know plenty, and I mean ALOT of Mexican-Americans who feel this way.
Illegal Immigration is not about race, as much as people try to make it out to be. Its about our state, and our way of doing things here in this country.
If we just opened up our borders and said "come on in, we dont care who you are", we would be in serious trouble, in all aspects of the political spectrum.

I know how hard of a topic Illegal Immigration is to people, but someone needs to do something about it because Americans, of all colors, have had enough. And Every American should be pissed off at not only the people comming here, but the people allowing them to come here.



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 06:43 AM
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Lucid...I cant talk to you.
You are mentally incapacitated.
You take everything I say and twist it.
You are not to be taken serious on any subject matter I have found out.
From here on out, I deem you tainted.



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 06:55 AM
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Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by lucidclouds
 


Lucid...I cant talk to you.
You are mentally incapacitated.
You take everything I say and twist it.
You are not to be taken serious on any subject matter I have found out.
From here on out, I deem you tainted.


Don't answer.

Sweet excuse...

You never answered.

Do you think going into Bolivia to commoditized water is better than walmart? Are you going back to ignoring me?

[edit on 15-3-2009 by lucidclouds] spelling.

[edit on 15-3-2009 by lucidclouds]



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 07:01 AM
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like I said..Tainted.
You can go now kid.



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 07:05 AM
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Originally posted by Common Good
reply to post by lucidclouds
 


like I said..Tainted.
You can go now kid.
.

Okay I have to sleep. Its 5:03 am here. but I answered your question of "we"? Can you just answer mine?

I will be back to see. see you sunday. Goodnight.



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 07:11 AM
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I think they both suck.

You have a goodnight.



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by alyosha1981 I reccomend you go to a wallmart store in an upper class mostly caucasian area you'll notice a big differance the second you walk into the door......



Yes, it will be clean, organized, and properly managed.



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 11:55 AM
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And they are doing to take away market share from HEB and Fiesta. Stores that are currently catering to Hispanics in Texas.


You got it. Walmart is out to drive all competitors out of business. They are hand in glove with Monsanto and Cargill in taking over control of food.





▲ In 2000: "... five food retailers controlled nearly 50 percent of retail food sales...." Source





Wal-Mart: Squeezing Out Small Processors 2006 Net Sales: $312.4 billion.
Global Reach: More than 6,000 stores in 11 countries
Political Campaign Contributions1 (1990-2006): more than $5.7 million

Wal-Mart, the one-stop behemoth as large as Home Depot, Kroger, Target, Costco, Sears and Kmart combined, has been selling groceries for only about 10 years, but it is already the largest food retailer in the world, and growing.

In 2006 alone, Wal-Mart added 267 “Supercenters” in the United States and increased its number of international stores by 43 percent. In 2004, Wal-Mart accounted for 15.7 percent of grocery sales in the United States, a figure that likely has increased significantly since then, given that 45 percent of Wal-Mart’s sales now come from groceries.

In order to get their products on the shelves at a grocery store, food processors must pay a flat rate called a slotting allowance. This arrangement puts smaller food processors at a disadvantage, because the slotting allowance is a proportionally larger chunk of their earnings than for large processors. However, Wal-Mart’s size allows it to exercise power even over large food production companies.

For example, General Mills makes 14 percent of its sales through Wal-Mart, Kellogg makes 13 percent, and Sara Lee makes 12 percent. Therefore, companies have no choice but to accept the low price that Wal-Mart offers them, or else lose a significant portion of their total sales.

However, instead of taking hits to their profits, food-processing companies can then use their own market power to reduce the price that they pay to farmers for food and food inputs. Food & Water Watch: nonprofit consumer rights organization


What is the impact on independent farmers?



American Vegetable Grower Magazine. Under Federal Marketing order as per the Fresh Produce Safety Act of 2007. All produce growers will be subject to inspection under guidelines set forth by Wal-Mat, McDonalds and Walt Disney Co. They include “cameras, employee identification,fences with locked gates, security guards, area patrol, unathorized entry signs, etc. All for a lack of management caused by the faliure of gov agencies to control wildlife. This will do for the small produce grower what NAIS will do for small livestock producers.


If Wally mart is lowering the prices food processors and thus farmers receive ask your self this? Why is big money heading for the Ag sector?




“ the automaker Mitsubishi, which also controls the second largest bank in the world, has become one of the world's largest beef processors, demonstrating the degree to which capital has flocked to the agribusiness sector....” Source: W. Heffernan, "Concentration Of Agricultural Markets," Unpublished paper, Department of Rural Sociology University of Missouri-Columbia (October, 1997)





“....big investors are "hurriedly moving their wealth out of stocks and shares and into farmland...." The Times article suggests that, "Across the world, hedge fund managers, property developers and other investors" are all ready to buy up British farmland. www.deepjournal.com...


There has been a concerted effort to wipe out independent farmers world wide

Even in the EU

And now we have bills on the table that will wipe out the independent US farmer
If you want to see the future, just look at the west coast of Scotland. The farmers had no other industry to rely on, and.now all the animals have gone. 'Farming is the last of the great industries to be wrecked' And once food is vertically integrated and completely controlled by a hand full of Corporations, How much of your salary do you think you will be spending on food?




Some farmers and ranchers are mobilizing for a last stand- those at least who haven't been thoroughly demoralized by recurring crises during the past twenty years. But this time, they recognize that farm rebellion is bound to fail unless they can persuade city folks-consumers, environmentalists, church activists and humanists, even animal rights advocates-that this political struggle involves much more than saving the family farm. Its purpose is also restoring the promise of safe and wholesome food, protecting consumers from monopoly pricing and stopping techno-agriculture's harsh new methods for abusing the environment as well as animals. "To win this thing-and we're way behind- we've got to connect with the general public and let them know they've got a dog in this fight," The New Politics of Food



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 11:57 AM
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[Walmart is doing it] to take away market share from HEB and Fiesta. Stores that are currently catering to Hispanics in Texas.


You got it. Walmart is out to drive all competitors out of business. They are hand in glove with Monsanto and Cargill in taking over control of food.





▲ In 2000: "... five food retailers controlled nearly 50 percent of retail food sales...." Source





Wal-Mart: Squeezing Out Small Processors 2006 Net Sales: $312.4 billion.
Global Reach: More than 6,000 stores in 11 countries
Political Campaign Contributions1 (1990-2006): more than $5.7 million

Wal-Mart, the one-stop behemoth as large as Home Depot, Kroger, Target, Costco, Sears and Kmart combined, has been selling groceries for only about 10 years, but it is already the largest food retailer in the world, and growing.

In 2006 alone, Wal-Mart added 267 “Supercenters” in the United States and increased its number of international stores by 43 percent. In 2004, Wal-Mart accounted for 15.7 percent of grocery sales in the United States, a figure that likely has increased significantly since then, given that 45 percent of Wal-Mart’s sales now come from groceries.

In order to get their products on the shelves at a grocery store, food processors must pay a flat rate called a slotting allowance. This arrangement puts smaller food processors at a disadvantage, because the slotting allowance is a proportionally larger chunk of their earnings than for large processors. However, Wal-Mart’s size allows it to exercise power even over large food production companies.

For example, General Mills makes 14 percent of its sales through Wal-Mart, Kellogg makes 13 percent, and Sara Lee makes 12 percent. Therefore, companies have no choice but to accept the low price that Wal-Mart offers them, or else lose a significant portion of their total sales.

However, instead of taking hits to their profits, food-processing companies can then use their own market power to reduce the price that they pay to farmers for food and food inputs. Food & Water Watch: nonprofit consumer rights organization


What is the impact on independent farmers?



American Vegetable Grower Magazine. Under Federal Marketing order as per the Fresh Produce Safety Act of 2007. All produce growers will be subject to inspection under guidelines set forth by Wal-Mat, McDonalds and Walt Disney Co. They include “cameras, employee identification,fences with locked gates, security guards, area patrol, unathorized entry signs, etc. All for a lack of management caused by the faliure of gov agencies to control wildlife. This will do for the small produce grower what NAIS will do for small livestock producers.


If Wally mart is lowering the prices food processors and thus farmers receive ask your self this? Why is big money heading for the Ag sector?




“ the automaker Mitsubishi, which also controls the second largest bank in the world, has become one of the world's largest beef processors, demonstrating the degree to which capital has flocked to the agribusiness sector....” Source: W. Heffernan, "Concentration Of Agricultural Markets," Unpublished paper, Department of Rural Sociology University of Missouri-Columbia (October, 1997)





“....big investors are "hurriedly moving their wealth out of stocks and shares and into farmland...." The Times article suggests that, "Across the world, hedge fund managers, property developers and other investors" are all ready to buy up British farmland. www.deepjournal.com...


There has been a concerted effort to wipe out independent farmers world wide

Even in the EU

And now we have bills on the table that will wipe out the independent US farmer
If you want to see the future, just look at the west coast of Scotland. The farmers had no other industry to rely on, and.now all the animals have gone. 'Farming is the last of the great industries to be wrecked' And once food is vertically integrated and completely controlled by a hand full of Corporations, How much of your salary do you think you will be spending on food?




Some farmers and ranchers are mobilizing for a last stand- those at least who haven't been thoroughly demoralized by recurring crises during the past twenty years. But this time, they recognize that farm rebellion is bound to fail unless they can persuade city folks-consumers, environmentalists, church activists and humanists, even animal rights advocates-that this political struggle involves much more than saving the family farm. Its purpose is also restoring the promise of safe and wholesome food, protecting consumers from monopoly pricing and stopping techno-agriculture's harsh new methods for abusing the environment as well as animals. "To win this thing-and we're way behind- we've got to connect with the general public and let them know they've got a dog in this fight," The New Politics of Food



posted on Mar, 15 2009 @ 12:40 PM
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Why are you so intent on addressing relevant issues on this thread?..... I think that the poor little boleos that are mad a some chicano dude for kicking his butt in the third grade, stealing girlfriend in the seventh and beating him out for a scholarship as a senior, or whatever, is what this thread is really about....To tell the truth, I am glad that there are people like you that are in touch with reality and haven't succumbed to the nonsensical brain farting gibberish that is so flagrantly spewing while the real issues go unnoticed.



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