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I had my first unexplained sighting today ! 440 Incident.

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posted on Mar, 17 2009 @ 10:56 PM
As my fellow members have stated its hard to take the analysis of the images to some definite conclusion but it was generally accepted that i did catch something weird with my camera.

As a responce to posters of this thread i thought i should make some image analysis of my own.

The following picture is the result in a compact form.

There are two versions. One 600 pixels in width and a larger one found in my image gallery.

I have overlayed the analysis of the object from images 440 through to 444 onto part of the first image shot the #440. By mistake i have labeled the images on the below compilation 400 through 404. Its all due to being tired at the time of analysis but i will pass and will not correct it. Same thing same order, just subtract 40 from original numbering when viewing my analysis compilation.

I have used various filters between images and relative scale should not be taken into consideration, i.e. objects should be of same sizes between each analysis so imagine 401 analysis shows an object whose diameter fits the diameter of 402 analysis.
404 analysis shows smaller because it actually started dissapearing in the photo. Consequtively i did not bother with image 445 since there wouldn't be much to show.

I will not post my thoughts derived from my analysis yet since i want to have a second look tomorrow when i have a fresh mind.

posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 12:05 AM
Thanks GEORGETHEGREEK, the first three had something.

The photo shoot sounded like guess work.
Not that easy I imagine.

Those new zoom in photo from a imageshack seem to have
side by side light balls.

posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 04:28 AM

Originally posted by GEORGETHEGREEK
As my fellow members have stated its hard to take the analysis of the images to some definite conclusion but it was generally accepted that i did catch something weird with my camera.

Of course it may be something weird. Or it may be something very common.
Given that the object is not shining, not moving fast, not staying at the same place either, is there any reason to think it can't be a white plastic bag carried by the wind? I see them quite often on windy days.

posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 05:35 AM
reply to post by nablator

Dear nablator,
as i explained in the oppening post all of this happened in a shord period of time and while expecting it the least. However i should point out that i had some pretty good stares at the objectbefore reaching for my camera. I do not know what it was, but hell it was not something i have seen before. Certainly not a bag, a kite or anything that could be drifting in the air.
You were not there to see it with you eyes and the only way i could somehow explain to you what i saw is that it had "presence".
I was initialy fooled other times but quite quickly realised what the actual incidents were and they were all non UFOs.
This particular one i posted was a UFO with the alien meaning of the abreviation.
Its ok for you or anybody to disprove my sighting but i am not here to claim or prove anything. I am confident that i am not tricked by some coincidence. Whatever reserves i kept on something explainable being there were not substantiated by all of our analysis * After all there are some things that you cannot transfer to one another in words or static photo, especialy when it registered as small with my equipment.(smaller than by naked eye)
I could not descern at the moment if it was completely static or slowly mocving because it was small with no near point of reference in a shiny blue sky. Same reason does not allow me to speculate on size and distance. However it looked not excesively far nor huge in size.
Additionaly the light emited was lively as if in rotation with slight variation in size and density. I should also make clear that it looked self illuminated, and i cannot substantiate in any way that under the specific lighting circumstances and the position of the sun its vibrance was the result of reflection or light deflection.
There are no hard feelings its all ok and i understand the fact that sometimes its hard to take on something when you haven't had an actual glance on it.
* I suppose that my analysis was not a bad one and varied in methodology to that of yours and Akezzon's, nor do i think you would dissmis it as fake as you can easily get the same results with some filter manipulation and magnification on the original images posted. Taking this as a fact i think a second look at my analysis might give you some more insight whatever your conclusions.
Ending this particular post i should note once again that it was a pleasure and a blessing to have your analysis and your speculation, while i know it is all in good intentions.


posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 08:44 AM
reply to post by nablator

I don't think it's a plastic bag floating in the wind.

If there was wind strong enough for it to keep at that height I would expect it to move faster than that, and if there was no wind then the bag would fall faster.

GEORGETHEGREEK, could you tell us (or find information about it) if there was wind and from what direction did it blew?

And is there any local (or national) organisation to which you can ask for reports of any more sightings on that place and day?

posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 08:59 AM
There are so many things it COULD be, that it's really hard to tell in this case. However, it is an EXCELLENT example of how to go about recording a UFO sighting, from the information provided, to how to photograph, and how to use maps to show the viewpoint of the observer, and I'll certainly give kudos for if nothing else, illustrating exactly how to provide the best info possible for a sighting....

posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 04:49 PM

Originally posted by GEORGETHEGREEK
You were not there to see it with you eyes and the only way i could somehow explain to you what i saw is that it had "presence".

Dear George,

I'm not saying it was a plastic bag. Just proposing and asking why it couldn't be.

You know us skeptics, we try to find simple explanations. It's not out of disrespect for the eyewitness, it's because sometimes, even experienced observers get fooled by ordinary things they don't recognize. The elimination of every plausible explanations is the only way to figure out that the object was really something out of the ordinary.

I am confident that i am not tricked by some coincidence.
After all there are some things that you cannot transfer to one another in words or static photo, especialy when it registered as small with my equipment.(smaller than by naked eye)

That's the problem with looking for objective evidence, it's not easy to find. The experience is in the eye of the beholder. Your case is excellent, but objectively, there isn't much to work with. Without more evidence, the possibility of an airborne bag or balloon remains. Imagine if we had another witness taking photographs from a different point of view, we could triangulate the position and size of the object. That would be something. Even a simple shadow on a building would achieve the same result.

There are no hard feelings its all ok and i understand the fact that sometimes its hard to take on something when you haven't had an actual glance on it.

Believe me, I'm not doubting your subjective experience. Your truthfulness is obvious. Please understand that I'm not trying to discredit your sighting. Just trying to be objective.

I suppose that my analysis was not a bad one and varied in methodology to that of yours and Akezzon's, ...

Not really, I tried several filters to increase contrast, and it gave similar results. I didn't post them because there wasn't anything special to see, only normal digital noise around the object, not some kind of lighter haze like I half expected. The shape looks round-ish but this is not new.

Doing image analysis is not applying filters. It's the interpretation that counts. I don't want to give the wrong impression by posting a picture that looks like a xmas tree. There are people who do fake analysis by blowing up the image a lot then apply contrast filters, far too strong, and then see aliens peering out of pixels.

Thanks for your honesty.


posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 09:26 PM
reply to post by Gazrok

Thank you for the possitive feedback!
I 'll make sure if i ever get lucky again to be even more thorough possibly with some better images too.

posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 09:36 PM
reply to post by nablator

Be sure that i admire all of your contribution in each and every way around this thread. Moreover i am a sceptic myself and our views are quite convergent even with you not having been there.
I will make sure if i ever have something new to contribute along the UFO matter to invite you along. There is much to be discovered yet. We ourselves may not have solid evidence at the moment. However in my case even while being a sceptic, i find it hard to alltogether discredit that something is going about. Now its even harder, so i desire to see where the story goes.

Take care!

posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 10:22 PM
Great thread George.

Good data collection. I think it is one of the better threads I have seen for awhile as far as information to analyze.

Starred and flagged!

I will keep my eye on this thread and see if anything else is discovered to help understand what you may have seen!


posted on Mar, 18 2009 @ 10:51 PM
reply to post by GEORGETHEGREEK

So what do the UFO experts say.
Looks like a triangle craft under all that smoke and mirrors.

I mean under all that atmospheric disturbance of electrical power
beyond our present understanding.

The continued distortion of photographic image deserves a round
of applause.

The Illuminati technology is truly great.

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 03:10 AM
Sorry for bumping the thread but I had an idea.

I discovered the thread since the OP had it in his signature which caught my eye from another thread.

Since there seems to be an airport nearby as the OP stated, can someone that lives near an airport to get equipment to listen in on the chatter of the local ATC? Is this possible and if so can the same equipment receive the chatter from the airplanes to the ATC? Are all these legal?

If a sighting happens and it is identified by the air control it might give a warning to someone that listens on the band so he/she can grab the camera and search to the general direction given by the ongoing traffic chatter in hope of actually catching something. Although chances would be very rare this would actually work but then again what isn't rare in the hunt for evidence about UFOs?
Are there any similar cases or info of people that were or are doing this?

This is a live air traffic link from various international airports.

Thank you all for reading this.

[edit on 25-3-2009 by spacebot]

posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 11:21 AM
reply to post by spacebot

Getting a licence to use radio is not that hard. You could generally get one. However its strictly forbiden to use in the way you describe. Moreover in the case i got a licence i think it would be hard monitoring the waves at all times given that the community of people using CBs has been shrinking at all time lows.

Your idea is not all that bad but i was talkink with pilots i know lately and thay do not have much to repost on the matter apart for some spectacular meteorite sightings and one extremely bright one that could bee seen for hundreds of kilometers casting day through the night.

I guess allthough i wouldn't be able to get a recording that my pilot friends would be a better chance of informing me on anything weird in our skyes.

To conclude two months ago there was a show with pilots in pension now discussing their ufo sightings on national tv. The most recorded one was from various flights crossing the line between Athens and Rhodes. Multiple witnessed of a fast moving UFO that was occasionaly stalking them were reported. I can submit some links if interested.


posted on Mar, 25 2009 @ 08:21 PM
The ATC link mentions only about the individual of being at listening range of an airport and have a police scanner or any airband-capable scanning receiver, though it mentions nothing of this being illegal or not.

It seems Crete is not only a favorable spot for vacations read on:

21 June 2008 UFO activity reported.

Two or more Unidentified Flying Objects were repeatedly seen chasing fire extinguishing planes and one fire extinguishing helicopter during a 21 June of 2008 forest fire incident over the island of Crete, Greece.(that was 1 year after the great summer fires that ravaged the country of Greece). The fireplanes and helicopter in that day were engaged in a firefighting mission near village Plakia, which is part of the Rethymnon prefecture one of the 3 main prefectures in the Cretan Island.

Plakia village of Rethymnon, Crete, Greece

The sighting made it to at least one Greek major news network ANT1 TV and was aired in July-10-08 in a morning news show. Probably this news piece was picked up after a Greek paranormal magazine called Trito Mati (Third eye) published an article that had at least 10 photos and an article 4 pages long, presenting of Unidentified Flying Objects near the fire extinguishing helicopter in its June or July edition of 2008.
Sadly their page is not currently working but here is a link to their cached page in Google where they also host small samples of each one of their monthly editions. The links to the right should point out to consecutive editions but strangely at least the June 2008 edition is missing from these links.

type " Trito Mati " in Google and click on cached page to see the cached Google page of the magazine
(cache link seems it doesn't work through the ATS forum)

Anyway here are 3 of the photos which I found them in a blog:
I believe these photos are scanned from the pages of the mentioned magazine's article, but I am not sure about this since the blog mentions no further details except posting the photos themselves. Also I haven't followed that particular magazine issues for lots of years.

Strange aircraft followed fire fighting helicopters.

blog Photo 1
blog Photo 2
blog Photo 3

Being familiar with this particular helicopter (I believe it is the only one of the particular type of heavy lifting helicopter that exists with similar coloring that is of service in the particular Country)

It is a Russian Mil Mi-26 (HALO) heavy lifting helicopter:


which I too have photographed at one time while it was making loading runs in a bay next to which I live during the huge fires of summer of 2007. I find the depicted UFOs as hard to be explained, since I am familiar with that specific helicopter vehicle's sight viewed through photographic lenses.

Anyway I wish to submit these photos and the particular incident to the incredibly skilled analyzers here at ATS.

George I wish you could take the time to present this bizarre case to the ATS audience since I believe you seem you got much better presentation and English language skills than I do. Also I hope none of these is a hoax case.

[edit on 25-3-2009 by spacebot]

posted on Jan, 10 2014 @ 05:01 PM
reply to post by spacebot

I came back to the thread now to have a reviewing look over it and unfortunately after all this time most of the links are broken.

Moreover i might be good at presenting the info in a decent way but there are way better people at digging out the info and analyzing it.

In any case and while i see that its been some time since you last logged on ATS i will keep the incident in mind and shed some light over it if i bump any further info.

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