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Topic started on 14-3-2009 @ 02:59 PM by burntheships
If China Stops Lending Us Money, Look Out

While America is still frozen under the "excess of fear", top economists are talking up the thaw and how it may be just over the horizon.

But what are they really wanting us to set our hopes on? More borrowing fueled by free flowing credit?

What will happen to our economy if the credit freeze thaws, and then China makes a move to stop buying our debt?

But China could reduce or halt future purchases. A less ravenous appetite for Treasurys is already evident: a New York Times article in January was titled: "China Losing Taste for Debt From U.S." One reason for fewer purchases would be diversification. Another would be to divert money toward its own 4 trillion yuan ($586 billion) stimulus package.
Reduced demand for Treasurys would drive up U.S. interest rates, probably pushing down home prices even more than they've already fallen, and also could start a run on the dollar.


Most of us would like to see a light at the end of the tunnel...
But you know the old joke...the light at the end of the tunnel is a freight train!

Peter Schiff in the video just added on March 12, 2009 shown below talks up buying gold and silver, and cheap stocks....take a look!

If your boss slashes your pay, if you have no savings because you spent more than you earned for many years, and if your creditors are threatening to cut off your credit cards and home equity loan, what happens?
The answer, of course, is that you're in serious trouble. And this could be the situation for the U.S. government -- which is facing lower income tax receipts and ballooning deficits -- if China loses its appetite for extending more and more loans by buying U.S. Treasury securities.
China is the single largest foreign holder of U.S. Treasurys. The money it lends to the Feds finances our significant budget deficits.


www.cbsnews.com...

Here is Peter Schiff's take on a possible Scenario involving China, U.S. debt and credit card debt

Lastly, savings can always be relied upon whereas credit is ephemeral. Remarks this week from the Chinese premier Wen Jiabao should serve notice to all Americans that the day will soon come when the Chinese stop lending us their umbrellas. When that happens, the average American will be soaked to the bone.




www.europac.net...


reply posted on 15-3-2009 @ 06:56 PM by burntheships
Video on What if China Stops Buying U.S. Debt



We can not recreate the bubble! Here is a short video with Ron Paul confronting Ben Bernanke with the falsehoods of fixing the system failure with credit availability.



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reply posted on 15-3-2009 @ 07:12 PM by burntheships
I think there may be forces at work that defy history. I have been scrutinizing this for a while... a change of course is possible, though not likely.
Source, article published 3-14-2009


Thousands still throng the shopping malls in Bangkok, but it’s all an illusion. From next month there will be bad news and more bad news.

THAIS are not jumping out of buildings just yet though Thailand is facing a more severe downturn than the 1997 Asian financial crisis which saw thousands committing suicide.

“It’s yet to come. By the second quarter of this year you should see many suicides,” said the man who counselled businessmen who contemplated committing suicide when they were hit by the Asian financial crisis.

Why the second quarter? Because by then those who have not given up hope yet will have no hope.


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reply posted on 15-3-2009 @ 07:18 PM by Avarus
reply to post by tothetenthpower



I think you're absolutely right. Although, at some point China is going to say "We've played enough of your games, and we've bought up enough of your worthless money... now it's time for action."


reply posted on 21-3-2009 @ 12:58 PM by nixie_nox
reply to post by burntheships



What I want to know is...how many members of Congress are actually economists?

Why do we have people with little economic background, making sole decisions?


reply posted on 21-3-2009 @ 02:59 PM by OBE1
China, the world's largest Gold producer, is already diversifying - building a foundation for future domestic expansion - stockpiling strategic resources - establishing joint ventures - Canada - Africa - Sudan.

The latest TIC reports are troubling - ergo; the Fed made it quite clear - they've been forced into the treasury market to cap interest rates. Gold sounded the alarm immediately. In due time - the ramifications of this drastic move will filter through to the fixed income market.


Now, if faddish commentators at Fox News - don't want to look like they just fell-off the conservative turnip truck - so they could scramble aboard the populist bandwagon - they should dig a little deeper - all the way into the bowels of the beast.

There is sufficient evidence that when necessary, the Fed/Treasury complex has been monetizing US debt for years through Caribbean based hedge funds - affiliates of the US banking cartel.

Some fine investigative work by Ron Kirby exposed this scheme back in 2005

PIRATES OF THE CARIBBEAN (I've had this link stored on my hard drive since 2006)


John Galt picked-up the torch last month....

Has Back Door Debt Monetization Already Begun?

The answer to the title is “yes” but it is not back door and should have been obvious to any observer of the markets as early as last October. What if the United States Treasury under Hank Paulson set up a policy for the banks that received government financial assistance to ask them to use their offshore affiliates to purchase U.S. Treasury instruments to keep 10 year yields and thus mortgage rates artificially low?

Full Text


Jim Willie this month.....

Gold & Treasury Feeder System
by Jim Willie, CB. Editor, Hat Trick Letter | March 18, 2009

CONTROL FROM BERMUDA TRIANGLE

Notice how the primary impetus behind the supposed USTBond rally was the mountain of purchases this past autumn by the USGovt and UKGovt, as seen in the Caribbean banks, where their fingerprints are often found without any mention in the press whatsoever. The US & UK illicit games conducted in Caribbean banks is given cover from hedge funds and Arab accounts, but not enough to hide what is really happening. In July 2008, the Caribbean bank center ledger item showed $117 billion is USTreasurys. By October 2008 the amount zoomed up to $204 billion. This is not Bermuda and Bahamas redeeming sea conch shells, molasses barrels, and salvaged marine vessels for USTreasury Bonds. These are games played by the syndicates running the central banks

Full Text


Now there's a story for MSM....

GL


reply posted on 21-3-2009 @ 04:25 PM by burntheships
reply to post by OBE1



Good sleuthing! Thanks for passing on those gems...
As for the Fox commentator doing an about face...
Jim Cramer just did that, appently he needs to be loved more than telling the truth!


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reply posted on 21-3-2009 @ 04:55 PM by OBE1
reply to post by burntheships


Hi BTS. After the Kirby missive , the story seemed to dry-up. Good to see it circulating again. Under-handedness runs to the extreme , and as noted in your thread , for the most part , congress remains clueless - and effectively neutered by a power grab at the Federal level that should have us all sticking pins in our eyes.

Keep up the good work!

GL


reply posted on 23-3-2009 @ 08:45 PM by burntheships
Moving quickly along...at a brisk pace now China
calls for a new reserve currency.

www.ft.com...


China’s central bank on Monday proposed replacing the US dollar as the international reserve currency with a new global system controlled by the International Monetary Fund.


Right behind the IMF paneling on reccomendation for a new
World Reserve Currency...
www.abovetopsecret.com...'

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